XP SP2 is still optional after 4/12/2005, right?

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As you know, there was an announcement on September 8th that as of
April 12, 2005 installation of SP2 for Windows XP will no longer be
blocked.
But this only applies to users who have Automatic Update turned ON,
correct?
In other words, those who do not want SP2 and have Automatic Update
turned OFF will not have to have SP2 forced upon them, will they?
 
Microsoft will never force anybody to install service pack 2. If you don't
want it installed, do not leave auto update on.
 
I never suggested Microsoft would force anyone to install anything.
The purpose of the tool is to prevent the installation of SP-2 while
leaving Automatic Update on.
All other Critical Updates will be installed.
You solution of simply disabling AU does not work for those wanting
other Critical Updates.
 
No, 8 months from Aug. 16 2004, is Apr. 16, 2005, as the link states it is 8 months.

"Please note that the mechanism to temporarily disable delivery of Windows XP SP2 will be available for a period of 240 days (8 months) from August 16. At the end of this period, Windows XP SP2 will be delivered to all Windows XP and Windows XP Service Pack 1 systems."
 
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I never suggested Microsoft would force anyone to install anything.
The purpose of the tool is to prevent the installation of SP-2 while
leaving Automatic Update on.
All other Critical Updates will be installed.
You solution of simply disabling AU does not work for those wanting
other Critical Updates.
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You last sentence is incomplete; it should read, "...
does not work for those wanting other critical updates but
are too lazy or stupid to get them without it."
 
Thank you Torgier.
I don't know why I wrote August, I knew it was now April.
 
No, the statement as I wrote is correct.
I do not presume others are "too lazy or stupid" as you have.
You have just displayed your own ignorance.
I suggest you read the article perhaps you can get your foot out of
your mouth.
You have apparently missed the main reason for the tool.
 
nospam256K said:
As you know, there was an announcement on September 8th that as of
April 12, 2005 installation of SP2 for Windows XP will no longer be
blocked.
But this only applies to users who have Automatic Update turned ON,
correct?
In other words, those who do not want SP2 and have Automatic Update
turned OFF will not have to have SP2 forced upon them, will they?
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And if you have AU merely advising you of its availability you will
still be able to refuse. The notice relates to corporate licensees
under the SUS updating system, where they pay a subscription, but
support is conditional on their having all updates installed
automatically
 
Jupiter Jones said:
I never suggested Microsoft would force anyone to install anything.
The purpose of the tool is to prevent the installation of SP-2 while
leaving Automatic Update on.
All other Critical Updates will be installed.
You solution of simply disabling AU does not work for those wanting other
Critical Updates.
Click to expand...

Feel free to correct me here but I was under the impression that I can have
AU off and still manually update other critical patches without having to
use that block prog. Eg, you CAN disable AU and still get other updates.
 
Let me rephrase:
"You solution of simply disabling AU does not work for those wanting
other Critical Updates through Automatic Update."

Many businesses with a number of computers wanted this tool and it was
with them in mind this tool was developed.
The usefullness of this tool for the typical home user is often little
to none.
 
Interrogative said:
Feel free to correct me here but I was under the impression that I can have
AU off and still manually update other critical patches without having to
use that block prog. Eg, you CAN disable AU and still get other updates.
Click to expand...
Hi

Yes, you can set AU to off in the Control Panel/Automatic Updates
and still use Windows Updates to do manual updates. What you can
not do is disable the Automatic Service in the services list and
still use Windows Updates.
 
Interrogative said:
Feel free to correct me here but I was under the impression that I can have
AU off and still manually update other critical patches without having to
use that block prog. Eg, you CAN disable AU and still get other updates.
Click to expand...

Yes. Also you can have it on Tell me, and then take no action on SP2 -
but it will continue to nag
 
Yes. Also you can have it on Tell me, and then take no action on SP2 -
but it will continue to nag
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Aren’t you forgetting about placing a check mark for hide updates.
This should stop the nagging.


Greg R
 
Torgeir Bakken (MVP) said:
Hi

Yes, you can set AU to off in the Control Panel/Automatic Updates
and still use Windows Updates to do manual updates. What you can
not do is disable the Automatic Service in the services list and
still use Windows Updates.
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In which I think is wrong, because under the v4 of WU, one could disable that service, and still get manual updates, by simply making a visit to WU, and then scanning. Now, unless AU (it is not called Automatic Service BTW), and Background Intelligent Services is on in services.msc, it won't allow scanning, or a check.

The problem I have with this is; it uses more system resources to have these services running, and WU does the scanning anyway when prompted by the user. So why it needs to be on is something I feel suspiciously about regarding this. I leave the services off, then turn them on when I want to check. I also get critical/security updates emails from MS to aid in keeping up to par.
 
Tom said:
In which I think is wrong, because under the v4 of WU, one could disable that service, and still get manual updates, by simply making a visit to WU, and then scanning. Now, unless AU (it is not called Automatic Service BTW), and Background Intelligent Services is on in services.msc, it won't allow scanning, or a check.
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You need to have those *services* on (though BITS can be manual) and
have actual Auto Updating off in its own Control Panel Applet. You
can then go to Windows Update (eg in the Tools menu of IE) and check on
updates manually (Custom Install), and be selective. As yet the only
ones I have seen offered there with SP2 installed are the .Net Framework
one and the link to check on any needed updates for Office
 
Torgeir Bakken (MVP) said:
Hi

Yes, you can set AU to off in the Control Panel/Automatic Updates
and still use Windows Updates to do manual updates. What you can
not do is disable the Automatic Service in the services list and
still use Windows Updates.
Click to expand...

Again - feel free to correct me if I am wrong - but if that is true, why is
it that I have always had AU turned off and to this day (XPSP2) am still
able to manually update any Windows update?
 
Alex Nichol said:
Yes. Also you can have it on Tell me, and then take no action on SP2 -
but it will continue to nag
Click to expand...

Doesn't even do that if you use TweakUI to squelch the balloon tips. :)
 
Alex Nichol said:
Yes. Also you can have it on Tell me, and then take no action on SP2 -
but it will continue to nag
Click to expand...

Doesn't even do that if you use TweakUI to squelch the balloon tips. :)
 

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