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If I unistall Windows XP by booting the CD and hitting delete all windows
partitions can I take the same XP and activate it on another computer? (I
bought this copy and installed it myself a month ago)

Thanks for your support
Adam
 
Providing it's a retail copy and not an OEM version yes you can. However
you may be asked to call for re-activation if it won't go through online.
 
Hi Adam

Yes, you can transfer XP to another PC, but you will have to 'phone MS when
you need to re-activate and explain the situation. You shouldn't have any
problems.
 
Computergeek said:
If I unistall Windows XP by booting the CD and hitting delete all windows
partitions can I take the same XP and activate it on another computer? (I
bought this copy and installed it myself a month ago)

Thanks for your support
Adam


Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not transferable),
simply remove WinXP from the computer it is currently on and then
install it on the new computer. If it's been more than 120 days since
you last activated that specific Product Key, the you'll most likely be
able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less,
you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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Computergeek said:
If I unistall Windows XP by booting the CD and hitting delete all
windows partitions can I take the same XP and activate it on another
computer? (I bought this copy and installed it myself a month ago)

Thanks for your support
Adam

Click on the link below, or copy and paste the link into the address box
if using the web based newsgroup.
How do I deactivate, move to another computer or sell a previously activated
XP?
#06 on the FAQ list
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/xpfaq.html
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Which states:
"Moving an OEM version of XP or replacing the OEM motherboard with
non-OEM is usually not allowed by the OEM EULA, so a call to the
activation center will probably disallow activation on the new PC even
when removed from the old PC. According to Microsoft©, OEM versions
are technically linked to the PC to which they are first installed."

I have a white box. The version of windows that I paid for and came
installed on this box is an OEM version according to the system
properties screen. I know I paid for it because it is listed on the
invoice and shows what I paid for it. So as I read this, if I upgrade
my motherboard (which is something I have been thinking of doing for
more FSB performance) I'm screwed by MS on this legally paid for copy
of XP, right?

It wouldn't be so bad if MS, by refusing to honor a legally paid for
copy of their software, had to buy it back when they decided to stop
honoring its use by the person that legally paid for it. Then that
person takes the refund and buys another legal copy to go with
whatever stupid changes they made to their box which caused all this
totally stupid go/no-go use of the legally paid for software in the
first place.

Looks like it would be simpler to just be honorable and honor its use
by the person that paid for it. I'm really starting to see why there
is such a large amount of animosity and hatred building toward M$ and
Bill Gates. I don't see any honor in stealing software and I don't
see any honor in refusing to honor the usage of a legally paid for
copy of the same software by MS just because the owner decided to
change something inside their box. That puts Bill Gates and the
Pirates on the same level, seems to me.... Both are thieves.

So, again, if MS is going to refuse to honor my paid for copy of their
software, then upon my showing my bill of sale for that software, they
should give me my money back.
 
Tom said:
Which states:
"Moving an OEM version of XP or replacing the OEM motherboard with
non-OEM is usually not allowed by the OEM EULA, so a call to the
activation center will probably disallow activation on the new PC even
when removed from the old PC. According to Microsoft©, OEM versions
are technically linked to the PC to which they are first installed."

I have a white box. The version of windows that I paid for and came
installed on this box is an OEM version according to the system
properties screen. I know I paid for it because it is listed on the
invoice and shows what I paid for it. So as I read this, if I upgrade
my motherboard (which is something I have been thinking of doing for
more FSB performance) I'm screwed by MS on this legally paid for copy
of XP, right?

Wrong. Just tell them your other motherboard went south and the new one is a
replacement for a defective board, NOT an upgrade, if you need to call them.
If it's been over 120 days since you last activated, it should activate
online and not need a phone call.
It wouldn't be so bad if MS, by refusing to honor a legally paid for
copy of their software, had to buy it back when they decided to stop
honoring its use by the person that legally paid for it. Then that
person takes the refund and buys another legal copy to go with
whatever stupid changes they made to their box which caused all this
totally stupid go/no-go use of the legally paid for software in the
first place.

Looks like it would be simpler to just be honorable and honor its use
by the person that paid for it. I'm really starting to see why there
is such a large amount of animosity and hatred building toward M$ and
Bill Gates. I don't see any honor in stealing software and I don't
see any honor in refusing to honor the usage of a legally paid for
copy of the same software by MS just because the owner decided to
change something inside their box. That puts Bill Gates and the
Pirates on the same level, seems to me.... Both are thieves.

So, again, if MS is going to refuse to honor my paid for copy of their
software, then upon my showing my bill of sale for that software, they
should give me my money back.

If you bought an OEM, MS doesn't support it, they only decide if you can use
it or not as MS didn't sell it to you, the store where you bought it did.

Alias
 
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Tom said:
Which states:
"Moving an OEM version of XP or replacing the OEM motherboard with
non-OEM is usually not allowed by the OEM EULA, so a call to the
activation center will probably disallow activation on the new PC even
when removed from the old PC. According to Microsoft©, OEM versions
are technically linked to the PC to which they are first installed."

I have a white box. The version of windows that I paid for and came
installed on this box is an OEM version according to the system
properties screen. I know I paid for it because it is listed on the
invoice and shows what I paid for it. So as I read this, if I upgrade
my motherboard (which is something I have been thinking of doing for
more FSB performance) I'm screwed by MS on this legally paid for copy
of XP, right?

You quoted it correctly, and this is what I posted as Microsoft's intended
policy.
You received the restricted use OEM licensed version of XP, you are not
screwed by using the OEM license as it was purchased and included in your
complete system.
It wouldn't be so bad if MS, by refusing to honor a legally paid for
copy of their software, had to buy it back when they decided to stop
honoring its use by the person that legally paid for it. Then that
person takes the refund and buys another legal copy to go with
whatever stupid changes they made to their box which caused all this
totally stupid go/no-go use of the legally paid for software in the
first place.

Did you really think up this business model? LOL MS sells highly discounted
licensed version of OS to OEM's. Consumer decides to upgrade, so MS refunds
to the consumer the cost of the OS so consumer can repurchase a new OEM
license. This would be successful because? Really curious how this would
work.
I would like to see restaurants jump on this great idea, eat a meal, enjoy
it, benefit from it, get hungry and then have them buy back the used product
so the consumer could purchase another meal. A bit messier than software,
but I like the idea. Purchase once and enjoy forever. Factor in fair use,
and I really like it. said:
Looks like it would be simpler to just be honorable and honor its use
by the person that paid for it. I'm really starting to see why there
is such a large amount of animosity and hatred building toward M$ and
Bill Gates. I don't see any honor in stealing software and I don't
see any honor in refusing to honor the usage of a legally paid for
copy of the same software by MS just because the owner decided to
change something inside their box. That puts Bill Gates and the
Pirates on the same level, seems to me.... Both are thieves.

So, again, if MS is going to refuse to honor my paid for copy of their
software, then upon my showing my bill of sale for that software, they
should give me my money back.

I like the concept, I think you should contact MS with this idea. ;-)
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Wrong. Just tell them your other motherboard went south and the new one is a
replacement for a defective board, NOT an upgrade, if you need to call them.

But see, I would have to be telling a lie in order to get them to
honor my legally paid for copy of the software. That would make me no
better than them morally.
If you bought an OEM, MS doesn't support it, they only decide if you can use
it or not as MS didn't sell it to you, the store where you bought it did.

I'm sure they have all sorts of avenues where they can "Legally"
refuse to honor the usage of their software to victims that legally
bought their software. You'll find that most filth and trash that
operate as such are good at such "legal" maneuverings. Money makes
the laws, money breaks the laws and there is nothing the "Great
Unwashed" can do about it.

I do see that there is a class action law suit coming out of Tennessee
against MS for refusing to honor the usage of legally paid for copies
of their OS. From what I remember from the news, there is a small
law firm that changes out their computers once every few years. They
give the old computers to the local schools without the OS because
they want to use their legally paid for copies of the OS on the new
computers. According to the news, they legally own one copy of the OS
for every computer in the office but I forget now how many that was.
I know is was less than 10 computers and the same amount of legally
paid for copies of the OS. Anyway... they replaced all the computers
as they have been doing for years but this time, MS refused to honor
their legally paid for copies of the OS when they installed the
legally paid for copies on the new systems. *** Remember Here*** that
the legally paid for copies of the software were removed from every
one of the old computers before they were turned over to the local
schools. Outraged, the law firm has instituted a class action law
suit against MS for refusing to honor the usage of their OS by owners
of legally paid for copies. According to the news, they are
soliciting victims of this MS practice across Tennessee for the law
suit.

I guess what I see happening is that there is a growing animosity
building toward MS because MS's drive to stop piracy of its software
is making victims out of legally paid for owners of the software while
the pirates are laughing their arses off because activation does
nothing to curtail their usage of the software. And no matter how the
MS supporters they are sending out there to spin the truth, the public
a large is growing less and less gullible as more and more of the
public that are honest owners of the software become victims to having
MS refuse to honor their legally paid for copies of the software
because of one silly excuse after another.

The bottom line is... I can see the need to fight piracy. I think all
pirates should be fined and/or jailed when caught. But when those
fighting piracy make victims out of those that had the ethics to
legally purchase their software, then there is something real wrong
and immoral going on. With that, I wish all those victims that live
in Tennessee a hardy good luck in their quest for justice for those
that had the moral integrity to purchase legally paid for copies of
the software but have been refused the right to use it because of
exerting their right to do what they wish with the hardware they use
the software in question on.

AND, a big thank you, Alias, for your courteous and nonflametory(sp)
response to my message. I know that my issues with the immoral
practices of MS are not popular among a certain sect but that should
never be an excuse for discourtesy and flametory(sp) hate speak.
Thanks again for your courtesy....

Regards,
Tom
 
I like the concept, I think you should contact MS with this idea. ;-)

Thanks for the courteous reply Michael. The concept is much too
"common sense" for MS to handle plus it makes them have to step up to
the bat and be honest themselves which we know would be totally out of
character for them.

Just think of it.... I purchase software or purchase a license to use
software. As the legal purchaser of the software/right I expect to be
able to use that software on a single machine. Just because I change
components or the whole machine should not mean that I give up my
rights to use the legally paid for copy of that software.

Yes I know that there are those that have changed many components
and/or whole computer and was granted the continues right to use their
legally paid for copy of the software. Then there are those that were
not and did nothing differently than those that did. What's the
difference? Luck of the draw on who you get on the activation phone
line? Someone with a bad hair day at MS the day you called in?
That's the questions being asked in a class action law suit generated
by some law firm in Tennessee. There does not seem to be any
consistency in MS's thinking as to who's legally paid for copy of the
OS is honored and who's legally paid for copy of the OS isn't.

As to the "concept", yes, I believe that if MS is going to refuse to
honor a legally paid for copy of their software, then the only
honorable thing to do is take it back and refund the purchase price
paid by the ***receipt holding*** victim. Or replace it with a new
copy that they will honor. But wouldn't it just be simpler in the
long run to just honor the usage of all legally paid for copies of the
software?

Now the argument will come up as to how MS knows if a copy is a
legally paid for copy or not. They are the ones that opened up this
can or worms in the first place by instituting this activation scheme
and then deciding on which copies to honor and which ones to not honor
depending on a set of rules that change from day to day, from client
to client, from phone operator to phone operator, so it should be
their burden to figure that out and not imposed upon the legal owners
of the software. The buyer met their moral obligation, they paid for
it, legally and they should be allowed to use it on any ***single***
computer they wish to or be granted their purchase price back when the
software is no longer honored by the manufacturer.

As I am typing this, my wife is telling me about the people that make
turbo tax shelving their usage of the activation scheme because of big
problems associated with such. According to what she read on her tax
forum, people with legal paid for copies of the software from last
year that have replaced the computers or made certain changes to their
computers since last tax season found out that they were refused
activation of the software on the new/changed systems when trying to
install their legally paid for copies for this tax season. Again, Law
suits were filled and the makers of Turbo Tax pulled the activation
scheme so they wouldn't have to deal with it further this year.

You don't fight piracy by making victims out of the legal owners of
your product unless you have so much money and you are so arrogant
that you could care less.

Again, thanks for the courteous reply Michael.

Regards,
TOM
 
Tom said:
But see, I would have to be telling a lie in order to get them to
honor my legally paid for copy of the software. That would make me no
better than them morally.

Then wait 120 days. Time flies when you're having fun. That way you won't
have to explain anything to anyone, just activate online. To me, finding a
way to use my OEM I paid for on ONE machine is a high moral road, nothing
immoral about it at all.
I'm sure they have all sorts of avenues where they can "Legally"
refuse to honor the usage of their software to victims that legally
bought their software. You'll find that most filth and trash that
operate as such are good at such "legal" maneuverings. Money makes
the laws, money breaks the laws and there is nothing the "Great
Unwashed" can do about it.

He who has the gold makes the rules. He who doesn't finds a way round the
rules.
I do see that there is a class action law suit coming out of Tennessee
against MS for refusing to honor the usage of legally paid for copies
of their OS. From what I remember from the news, there is a small
law firm that changes out their computers once every few years. They
give the old computers to the local schools without the OS because
they want to use their legally paid for copies of the OS on the new
computers. According to the news, they legally own one copy of the OS
for every computer in the office but I forget now how many that was.
I know is was less than 10 computers and the same amount of legally
paid for copies of the OS. Anyway... they replaced all the computers
as they have been doing for years but this time, MS refused to honor
their legally paid for copies of the OS when they installed the
legally paid for copies on the new systems. *** Remember Here*** that
the legally paid for copies of the software were removed from every
one of the old computers before they were turned over to the local
schools. Outraged, the law firm has instituted a class action law
suit against MS for refusing to honor the usage of their OS by owners
of legally paid for copies. According to the news, they are
soliciting victims of this MS practice across Tennessee for the law
suit.

I guess what I see happening is that there is a growing animosity
building toward MS because MS's drive to stop piracy of its software
is making victims out of legally paid for owners of the software while
the pirates are laughing their arses off because activation does
nothing to curtail their usage of the software. And no matter how the
MS supporters they are sending out there to spin the truth, the public
a large is growing less and less gullible as more and more of the
public that are honest owners of the software become victims to having
MS refuse to honor their legally paid for copies of the software
because of one silly excuse after another.

The bottom line is... I can see the need to fight piracy. I think all
pirates should be fined and/or jailed when caught. But when those
fighting piracy make victims out of those that had the ethics to
legally purchase their software, then there is something real wrong
and immoral going on. With that, I wish all those victims that live
in Tennessee a hardy good luck in their quest for justice for those
that had the moral integrity to purchase legally paid for copies of
the software but have been refused the right to use it because of
exerting their right to do what they wish with the hardware they use
the software in question on.

AND, a big thank you, Alias, for your courteous and nonflametory(sp)
response to my message. I know that my issues with the immoral
practices of MS are not popular among a certain sect but that should
never be an excuse for discourtesy and flametory(sp) hate speak.
Thanks again for your courtesy....

Regards,
Tom

You're welcome.

Alias
 
The bottom line is... I can see the need to fight piracy. I think all
pirates should be fined and/or jailed when caught. But when those
fighting piracy make victims out of those that had the ethics to
legally purchase their software, then there is something real wrong
and immoral going on.

I'm inclined to believe that only the pirates with parrots on
their shoulders should be jailed, whereas those with peg legs
should be fined. It's a judgment call.
 
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Tom said:
Thanks for the courteous reply Michael. The concept is much too
"common sense" for MS to handle plus it makes them have to step up to
the bat and be honest themselves which we know would be totally out of
character for them.

Just think of it.... I purchase software or purchase a license to use
software. As the legal purchaser of the software/right I expect to be
able to use that software on a single machine. Just because I change
components or the whole machine should not mean that I give up my
rights to use the legally paid for copy of that software.

Yes I know that there are those that have changed many components
and/or whole computer and was granted the continues right to use their
legally paid for copy of the software. Then there are those that were
not and did nothing differently than those that did. What's the
difference? Luck of the draw on who you get on the activation phone
line? Someone with a bad hair day at MS the day you called in?
That's the questions being asked in a class action law suit generated
by some law firm in Tennessee. There does not seem to be any
consistency in MS's thinking as to who's legally paid for copy of the
OS is honored and who's legally paid for copy of the OS isn't.

As to the "concept", yes, I believe that if MS is going to refuse to
honor a legally paid for copy of their software, then the only
honorable thing to do is take it back and refund the purchase price
paid by the ***receipt holding*** victim. Or replace it with a new
copy that they will honor. But wouldn't it just be simpler in the
long run to just honor the usage of all legally paid for copies of the
software?

Now the argument will come up as to how MS knows if a copy is a
legally paid for copy or not. They are the ones that opened up this
can or worms in the first place by instituting this activation scheme
and then deciding on which copies to honor and which ones to not honor
depending on a set of rules that change from day to day, from client
to client, from phone operator to phone operator, so it should be
their burden to figure that out and not imposed upon the legal owners
of the software. The buyer met their moral obligation, they paid for
it, legally and they should be allowed to use it on any ***single***
computer they wish to or be granted their purchase price back when the
software is no longer honored by the manufacturer.

As I am typing this, my wife is telling me about the people that make
turbo tax shelving their usage of the activation scheme because of big
problems associated with such. According to what she read on her tax
forum, people with legal paid for copies of the software from last
year that have replaced the computers or made certain changes to their
computers since last tax season found out that they were refused
activation of the software on the new/changed systems when trying to
install their legally paid for copies for this tax season. Again, Law
suits were filled and the makers of Turbo Tax pulled the activation
scheme so they wouldn't have to deal with it further this year.

You don't fight piracy by making victims out of the legal owners of
your product unless you have so much money and you are so arrogant
that you could care less.

Again, thanks for the courteous reply Michael.

Regards,
TOM


You seemed to have missed most of my reply.
Which states:
"Moving an OEM version of XP or replacing the OEM motherboard with
non-OEM is usually not allowed by the OEM EULA, so a call to the
activation center will probably disallow activation on the new PC even
when removed from the old PC. According to Microsoft©, OEM versions
are technically linked to the PC to which they are first installed."

I have a white box. The version of windows that I paid for and came
installed on this box is an OEM version according to the system
properties screen. I know I paid for it because it is listed on the
invoice and shows what I paid for it. So as I read this, if I upgrade
my motherboard (which is something I have been thinking of doing for
more FSB performance) I'm screwed by MS on this legally paid for copy
of XP, right?

You quoted it correctly, and this is what I posted as Microsoft's intended
policy.
You received the restricted use OEM licensed version of XP, you are not
screwed by using the OEM license as it was purchased and included in your
complete system.
It wouldn't be so bad if MS, by refusing to honor a legally paid for
copy of their software, had to buy it back when they decided to stop
honoring its use by the person that legally paid for it. Then that
person takes the refund and buys another legal copy to go with
whatever stupid changes they made to their box which caused all this
totally stupid go/no-go use of the legally paid for software in the
first place.

Did you really think up this business model? LOL MS sells highly discounted
licensed version of OS to OEM's. Consumer decides to upgrade, so MS refunds
to the consumer the cost of the OS so consumer can repurchase a new OEM
license. This would be successful because? Really curious how this would
work.
I would like to see restaurants jump on this great idea, eat a meal, enjoy
it, benefit from it, get hungry and then have them buy back the used product
so the consumer could purchase another meal. A bit messier than software,
but I like the idea. Purchase once and enjoy forever. Factor in fair use,
and I really like it. <G>


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You know, that's exactly what I expect of anything I buy. Of course
food being a biodegradable is a very poor comparison example to use in
trying to support or justify what is going on (Said Respectfully).

Looking around my house, everything I see that is not biodegradable is
expected by me, the lawful owner, to last forever. Now we all know
that's dreaming because things wear out and break but to add to that
this new thing conjured up my microsoft where something that is legally
paid for is only good for as long as they so deem it be good is nothing
short of perpetrating a fraud on the public disguised as an act to
prevent piracy. I guess that's why we are starting to see these law
suits pop up that Tom shared. I am also reading about such lawsuits
also.

I still own legally paid for by me copies of windows 3.11, 95 and 98SE.
Since I legally paid for them, then I expect to always have the right
to use them on any single computer that I own (compatibility willing
that is) for the rest of my life. I didn't buy them with the
expectation of being denied their use after a specific amount of time
or after making certain changes to my computer. Even though I do not
use them any more, they are part of my legally paid for collection of
software and can be used (compatibility depending) at any time I so
choose on any single one of my computers.

Everything I legally own, I expect to use for the rest of my life
unless breakage or compatibility make it not so. I do not expect the
maker of the product to arbitrarily decide that I can't use it any
more. That is a fraud.

You know, these Pirates must be laughing their asses off at all us poor
dumb bastards out here that legally bought and paid for XP.

Respectfully, NIK


Michael Stevens wrote:
[snip a bunch of stuff]
 
I'm afraid that is something they could care less about but your
statement is so true. And you know that for all this, they are not
putting even a small dent in piracy because.... pirates don't have to
deal with all this activation mess and don't have their pirated copies
of XP go south every time they transfer it to another computer or
change a component. The only people that all this mess effects is the
legal owners of the software.

When I have more time, I'll scan in and post a copy of an article in
our local newspaper where our local Library went through a head to head
with Bill Gates when they upgraded all their computers last year and
Gates refused to activate each single copy of XP removed from each old
machine and brought forward to each of the new machines.

Seems they were under the silly impression that if they were the legal
owner of each copy, then they had the right to put each copy on any
single machine in their possession. According to the article, Big Bill
said no way, they could only use it one time on one computer and that
was that. Threats of a lawsuit from the county got Bill off his duff
and forced him to activate these legally owned copies of XP. Problem
is, Joe Public don't always have the legal clout to get justice and has
to settle for a big stiff one up the old corn hole. Oh yea, the
article says that M$'s reply to all this was that it was a
"misunderstanding" and an "overzealous activation tech" during the
call.

NIK

Tom wrote:
[snip a bunch of stuff]
 
In
You know, that's exactly what I expect of anything I buy. Of course
food being a biodegradable is a very poor comparison example to use in
trying to support or justify what is going on (Said Respectfully).

I just liked the imagery of it, it wasn't meant as a serious example. 8-)
Looking around my house, everything I see that is not biodegradable is
expected by me, the lawful owner, to last forever. Now we all know
that's dreaming because things wear out and break but to add to that
this new thing conjured up my microsoft where something that is
legally paid for is only good for as long as they so deem it be good
is nothing short of perpetrating a fraud on the public disguised as
an act to prevent piracy. I guess that's why we are starting to see
these law suits pop up that Tom shared. I am also reading about such
lawsuits also.

The computer along with the license can be used forever or until it is worn
out. The hinky part comes when it is no longer the same computer that the
OEM vendor or discounted and restricted OEM license would recognize.
I still own legally paid for by me copies of windows 3.11, 95 and
98SE. Since I legally paid for them, then I expect to always have the
right to use them on any single computer that I own (compatibility
willing that is) for the rest of my life. I didn't buy them with the
expectation of being denied their use after a specific amount of time
or after making certain changes to my computer. Even though I do not
use them any more, they are part of my legally paid for collection of
software and can be used (compatibility depending) at any time I so
choose on any single one of my computers.

Everything I legally own, I expect to use for the rest of my life
unless breakage or compatibility make it not so. I do not expect the
maker of the product to arbitrarily decide that I can't use it any
more. That is a fraud.

I would call it more of a contract dispute with the owner of the software.
You know, these Pirates must be laughing their asses off at all us
poor dumb bastards out here that legally bought and paid for XP.

Thieves have a warped sense of humor. 8-)
Respectfully, NIK


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Purchase once and enjoy forever. Factor in fair use,
and I really like it. <G>


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I would call it more of a contract dispute with the owner of the software.

I was just told on another newsgroup something that I didn't know. I
was told that when I trade my money for that box that the windows disk
comes in, that I am only paying for the right to use the software and
that ownership of that physical disk that was in the box that I paid
for remains owned by microsoft, not me. And, that I am only paying to
use the software for so long as Microsoft decides that I have a right
to do so and that microsoft can legally decide at any moment, for any
reason or for no reason what so ever that I no longer have the right
to use that software and therefore refuse to grant an activation.

Don't know if this is true or not but by my judgment of the moral
level that MS operates under, I wouldn't doubt it.
Thieves have a warped sense of humor. 8-)

Maybe but they sure don't have to deal with microsoft's hurdles and
go-today/nogo-tomorrow rules like those of us that were honest enough
to buy the software (or is it rent time on the software now). They
know that no matter what components they change in their computers or
when they upgrade from one computer to the next, that their hacked
version of XP will always keep on ticking without any hurdles to jump
through or any hassles from MS.

But the rest of us... the sins we must pay, imposed by MS, for being
honest I guess.

Have a good weekend Michael..... I'm going fly fishing and wash any
thoughts of Bill Gates out of my mind for a few days.

Regards,
Tom
 
article says that M$'s reply to all this was that it was a
"misunderstanding" and an "overzealous activation tech" during the
call.

That's only when you get caught. Otherwise, its business as usual.

Tom
 
Sounds like a winner. What part of the country do you live in and do
your fly fishing?

NIK


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