XP Pro License

[Daniel \(Training MCDST\)]

Hello All,

I am training for the MCDST at the moment and I recently purchased a full
(genuine) retail copy of XP pro off the shelf at a local computer store. I
have had this installed on my laptop for about 6 months but I have a second
machine which I would like to install it to so I can use it for MCDST study.
I'd rather mess about with a test machine than my primary machine.

Am I allowed to install my XP disk onto a second machine without breaking
the EULA that came with it? The reason I ask is because someone told me that
each OS disk will allow an install to two machines without breaching the
EULA. Is this true?

Thanks for your help.
Much appreciated.

Daniel

 

[joe]

Hello All,

I am training for the MCDST at the moment and I recently purchased a full
(genuine) retail copy of XP pro off the shelf at a local computer store. I
have had this installed on my laptop for about 6 months but I have a second
machine which I would like to install it to so I can use it for MCDST study.
I'd rather mess about with a test machine than my primary machine.

Am I allowed to install my XP disk onto a second machine without breaking
the EULA that came with it? The reason I ask is because someone told me that
each OS disk will allow an install to two machines without breaching the
EULA. Is this true?

Thanks for your help.
Much appreciated.

Daniel

You can install that on as many as 10 computers and still be legal. I
think it even mentions that in the licensing agreement.

So in answer to your question, yes you can.

Joe

 

[justme]

You can install it but you can only activate it on 1 computer. 1 computer 1
license, 2 computers 2 licenses, etc.

 

[Guest]

Each installation of Windows XP, installed on a different computer,
requires its own license. Please read your End-User License Agreement
by going to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter.

 

[Guest]

Please do not post erroneous information!

 

[Steve N.]

Hello All,

I am training for the MCDST at the moment and I recently purchased a full
(genuine) retail copy of XP pro off the shelf at a local computer store. I
have had this installed on my laptop for about 6 months but I have a second
machine which I would like to install it to so I can use it for MCDST study.
I'd rather mess about with a test machine than my primary machine.

Am I allowed to install my XP disk onto a second machine without breaking
the EULA that came with it? The reason I ask is because someone told me that
each OS disk will allow an install to two machines without breaching the
EULA. Is this true?

Thanks for your help.
Much appreciated.

Daniel

According to the EULA no you cannot; one license, one machine. However
if it's been over 120 days since you activated the laptop installation
you can get away with it. Just be aware that if you have to re-activate
the laptop installation for any reason in the next 120 days you'll have
to make a call to M$ and lie to them to get it re-activated.

Steve

 

[Steve N.]

You can install that on as many as 10 computers and still be legal. I
think it even mentions that in the licensing agreement.

So in answer to your question, yes you can.

Joe

Wrong. You need to re-read the EULA. One license - one machine.

Steve

 

[Larry Samuels]

Hi Daniel,

You will require another license if you wish to use XP on the second PC
permanently. The EULA limits the OS to one PC.

If you are just using the second pc for your training and don't mind
reloading it every 30 days (one installation should get you through your
training period), you could install XP from your current CD but do not try
to activate it.
Load XP, perform your test scenarios, then wipe the pc and reload the OS
that came with the PC.


--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm

 

[Kelly]

I'd like to know where you got THAT information Joe. HAHA
You can install on ONE machine according to the EULA. If
you want it on additional machines you need to buy
additional licenses to do so.

 

[Daniel \(Training MCDST\)]

Thank you all for your advice. I think I will reinstall it every 30 days
(should I need more than 30 days) and not activate it as it is only for test
purposes anyway.

Thanks again.
Daniel

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Is there any particular reason you simply cannot read the EULA to
which you've already agreed, and which is located on your hard drive?
You'll need to purchase a separate WinXP license for each computer on
which you install it.

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which
it is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to
determine final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which
WinXP licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is
that Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
difficult) multiple installations using a single license.

You can buy additional licenses, assuming you have a retail
license. Naturally, Microsoft cannot sell additional OEM licenses.
Be aware, however, that you'll probably pay more this way than you
would if you were to buy a second copy of WinXP from a discount
retailer; Microsoft will only offer you a 15% discount off their MSRP.

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp


Bruce Chambers
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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Today is _not_ April 1st.

Bruce Chambers
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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Has it not occurred to you that publicly announcing your intent to
circumvent the EULA and , in affect, pirate Microsoft software on a
Microsoft server might somehow affect Microsoft's willingness to grant
you the certification you seem to covet?

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[Larry Samuels]

Bruce--he is not violating the license.
The 30 day period is incorporated for testing purposes (hardware, software,
etc--the scenarios he will need to recreate to study for the MSCDT certainly
qualify.)

As long as he is not using the pc for everyday use he is legal.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Larry, I understand that one of the purposes of the 30-day
activation waiting period is to allow time to verify (test)
compatibility of the OS with the hardware of the target computer.
However, I've reread my EULA several times, but I still can't find
anything that I can reasonably interpret as "... a single copy on a
single computer, _except_ for testing purposes." In which specific
paragraph is this multiple PC allowance granted? I just can't find
it.


Bruce Chambers
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[Larry Samuels]

There is nothing there specifically granting this exception, nor does there
need to be.

As long as a user does not attempt to activate a second install or to
circumvent activation on the second copy they are not in violation of the
eula.

Ever hear of using a parallel install to recover data? That would be a
direct violation of your interpretation of the EULA--it is however the
recommended method of data recovery by MS--hmmm.


--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm

 

[Daniel \(Training MCDST\)]

Bruce,

Thank you for your opinion. I would however stress that if your only intent
is on causing an argument in this newsgroup I suggest you keep your opinion
to yourself.

The reason I posted this question on this newsgroup in the first place was
to clarify my position with multiple installs. I do know how to read and I
did read the EULA before I posted my question. If I had any intention on
breaching my EULA, I would not have wasted my time posting teh question in
the first place.

If you feel I am breaking copyright law then please feel free to forward my
details to your attourney. I would love to have a chat with him.

My thanks go to Larry for fighting my case.

Daniel

 

[Mark]

To avoid EULA discussions and accusations like these, use Linux.

 

[Tom]

Thank you all for your advice. I think I will reinstall it every 30 days
(should I need more than 30 days) and not activate it as it is only for
test
purposes anyway.

You don't need to reinstall it every 30 days and still be using the same
copy. There ways to do this using the actual installation devices. I won't
give that information, because (though I do not like PA, I do agree by the
terms when I accepted, and have no problem) it is circumventing the
agreement.

THE EULA is very vague though about the 30 day period, as it doesn't say you
cannot use it for 30 days, and reinstall it to use for another 30days. It
simply says to use it after that, you must activate it. If you reinstall it,
you then get another 30 days.

 

[Plato]

To avoid EULA discussions and accusations like these, use Linux.

Shoddy answer. The general public trusts the OS that comes with their
PC. This is a "standard", like it or not. The purpose here is to help
support the "standard" OS.

The general public joe home user has NO interest in linux.