XP Pro Backup program on a XP Home system

[DaveL]

I have found out that XP Home version does have Backup but does not include
the ASR (Automatic System Restore) function. If instead of loading Backup
(ntbackup.msi) from the Home CD, I loaded it off an XP Pro CD, would ASR
work?

Thanks,
Dave

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

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--
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| I have found out that XP Home version does have Backup but does not include
| the ASR (Automatic System Restore) function. If instead of loading Backup
| (ntbackup.msi) from the Home CD, I loaded it off an XP Pro CD, would ASR
| work?
|
| Thanks,
| Dave

 

[DaveL]

Thank you for your quick reply.
Dave

 

[DaveL]

One more question, if I may.

If I use the ntbackup from the XP Home "Value added" folder, can I do an ASR
backup and then in a disaster reload XP Home, reload ntbackup and then do a
restore from the bkf file that was created ? Would this restore my system
properly?

What I'm looking for is a simple, GUI way of backing up (and restoring)
everything except what is installed by XP Home CD by default, without having
to layout any extra cash.

Dave

 

[mrtee]

Read these links:

ASR Automated System Restore
1. Use Backup to Restore Files and Folders on Your Computer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q309340

2. An Error Message Is Displayed When You Attempt to Use the Automated System Recovery Wizard http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q302700 (home)

3. Cannot Restore Backups That You Create in Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Me with the Windows XP Ntbackup Tool http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q305381

4. Use Backup to Restore Files and Folders on Your Computer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q309340

5. Windows Backup Does Not Back Up to CD-R, CD-RW, or DVD-R Devices http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315255

6. Backup Utility to Back Up Files and Folders in Windows XP Home Edition http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320820



I used ntbackup with XP pro for 1½ years and it worked fine. I do not know about ASR in home. The program I now use is TrueImage from www.acronis.com, it does cost, but it's worth it.


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Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| One more question, if I may.
|
| If I use the ntbackup from the XP Home "Value added" folder, can I do an ASR
| backup and then in a disaster reload XP Home, reload ntbackup and then do a
| restore from the bkf file that was created ? Would this restore my system
| properly?
|
| What I'm looking for is a simple, GUI way of backing up (and restoring)
| everything except what is installed by XP Home CD by default, without having
| to layout any extra cash.
|
| Dave

 

[DaveL]

Well, I set the backup last night. It was screwy at best. I loaded
ntbackup off the WinXP Home cd. Created and ran a full (normal) backup of
the entire computer. Then I went into scheduled jobs to create a daily
differential backup. This is where things went screwy. I'm using an
external USB 80 GB hard drive for my backup media. It show up when
connected as drive E. When I ran the differential it began to backup the
full backup.bkf on the E drive. So I canceled it and recreated the
differential so it would not attempt to backup the backup media. But even
after doing that the differential still had to backup 400 MB of files! This
is immediately after running a NORMAL backup. I thought the differential
would have had nothing to backup since the Normal backup is supposed the
reset the archive bits on everything.

Dave


Read these links:

ASR Automated System Restore
1. Use Backup to Restore Files and Folders on Your Computer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q309340

2. An Error Message Is Displayed When You Attempt to Use the Automated
System Recovery Wizard
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q302700 (home)

3. Cannot Restore Backups That You Create in Windows 95, Windows 98, or
Windows Me with the Windows XP Ntbackup Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q305381

4. Use Backup to Restore Files and Folders on Your Computer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q309340

5. Windows Backup Does Not Back Up to CD-R, CD-RW, or DVD-R Devices
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315255

6. Backup Utility to Back Up Files and Folders in Windows XP Home Edition
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320820



I used ntbackup with XP pro for 1½ years and it worked fine. I do not know
about ASR in home. The program I now use is TrueImage from www.acronis.com,
it does cost, but it's worth it.


--
Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| One more question, if I may.
|
| If I use the ntbackup from the XP Home "Value added" folder, can I do an
ASR
| backup and then in a disaster reload XP Home, reload ntbackup and then do
a
| restore from the bkf file that was created ? Would this restore my system
| properly?
|
| What I'm looking for is a simple, GUI way of backing up (and restoring)
| everything except what is installed by XP Home CD by default, without
having
| to layout any extra cash.
|
| Dave

 

[mrtee]

Did you read the link at: 6. Backup Utility to Back Up Files and Folders in Windows XP Home Edition
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320820?

Full instructions are there.

--
Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| Well, I set the backup last night. It was screwy at best. I loaded
| ntbackup off the WinXP Home cd. Created and ran a full (normal) backup of
| the entire computer. Then I went into scheduled jobs to create a daily
| differential backup. This is where things went screwy. I'm using an
| external USB 80 GB hard drive for my backup media. It show up when
| connected as drive E. When I ran the differential it began to backup the
| full backup.bkf on the E drive. So I canceled it and recreated the
| differential so it would not attempt to backup the backup media. But even
| after doing that the differential still had to backup 400 MB of files! This
| is immediately after running a NORMAL backup. I thought the differential
| would have had nothing to backup since the Normal backup is supposed the
| reset the archive bits on everything.
|
| Dave

 

[DaveL]

Yes I did. And thank you for those links, BTW. But they do not explain why
a differential backup would backup 400MB worth of files imediately after
running a full Normal backup. I think this version of backup software is
not as smart as I was expecting. Like it trying to backup the backup media.
I didn't know whether to laugh or be disgusted with it.

Dave


Did you read the link at: 6. Backup Utility to Back Up Files and Folders in
Windows XP Home Edition
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320820?

Full instructions are there.

--
Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| Well, I set the backup last night. It was screwy at best. I loaded
| ntbackup off the WinXP Home cd. Created and ran a full (normal) backup of
| the entire computer. Then I went into scheduled jobs to create a daily
| differential backup. This is where things went screwy. I'm using an
| external USB 80 GB hard drive for my backup media. It show up when
| connected as drive E. When I ran the differential it began to backup the
| full backup.bkf on the E drive. So I canceled it and recreated the
| differential so it would not attempt to backup the backup media. But even
| after doing that the differential still had to backup 400 MB of files!
This
| is immediately after running a NORMAL backup. I thought the differential
| would have had nothing to backup since the Normal backup is supposed the
| reset the archive bits on everything.
|
| Dave

 

[mrtee]

By "full normal backup" you mean...........?

--
Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| Yes I did. And thank you for those links, BTW. But they do not explain why
| a differential backup would backup 400MB worth of files imediately after
| running a full Normal backup. I think this version of backup software is
| not as smart as I was expecting. Like it trying to backup the backup media.
| I didn't know whether to laugh or be disgusted with it.
|
| Dave

 

[DaveL]

By full I meant the entire computer. By normal I mean the backup mode, ie
normal, copy, incremental, differential. Normal is supposed to backup all
files and folders and reset the archive bit. Differential backs up only
files that have the archive bit set, in other words new or changed files
since the last normal backup.

Dave


By "full normal backup" you mean...........?

--
Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| Yes I did. And thank you for those links, BTW. But they do not explain
why
| a differential backup would backup 400MB worth of files imediately after
| running a full Normal backup. I think this version of backup software is
| not as smart as I was expecting. Like it trying to backup the backup
media.
| I didn't know whether to laugh or be disgusted with it.
|
| Dave

 

[mrtee]

Sorry I can't be of any more help Dave. I don't know why it is working like that.

--
Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| By full I meant the entire computer. By normal I mean the backup mode, ie
| normal, copy, incremental, differential. Normal is supposed to backup all
| files and folders and reset the archive bit. Differential backs up only
| files that have the archive bit set, in other words new or changed files
| since the last normal backup.
|
| Dave