Brian A. said:
Correct and I apoligize for the err of my ways. I did not intend to imply that
the OP had an illegal OS, although I see how it can be misconstrued as such. I
simply meant to point out that problems can arise without the proper
media/documentation.
Well, i didn't mean to come down on you so hard. I just get real frustrated
when people appear to be disimenating information about licenses as if it
was law when it is actualy a contract (wich maynot even be fully
enforcable). If i did apear too stong with my comments, i appoligize as
they were intended/frustrated more to the "illegal" wording rather then what
you specificaly posted.
With that said, any installed MS OS, whether it is Retail or OEM, will have the
proper COA documentation and EULA provided with it for the consumer. If the OS
is transfered to another party/computer, the media/documentation must accompany
that transfer to be legal. Some OEM's even state in their EULA that the OS can
only be installed/used in the computer that it came shipped in.
Almost right, In an ideal situation you are corect but if one part of the
acompaning media has been destroy, it can be overlooked. I have this from a
microsoft employie as well as U.S.C 17 states it. The pupose of the"all
documents, media ect.." is so that you don't retain part of the package and
that the package is one product sold exclusivly together were all material
acompaning it has to transfer with it. It is not intended to make you
replace the product if somethign happens to be destroyed. If the manual got
eaten by your dog or maybe the cd was melted by a ciguare or somehting and
you tossed it out, you still have legal right to transfer your ownership of
rights to use the material. If it is an OEM version then the sale would
include a nonperiprial computer part as part of the package and that part
would have to be included in the sale. OEM's like dell and HP would sell the
computer as the part were you can actualy buy an OEM verison of the
operating system with a stick of meory, hardrive, mainboard, processor ect.
In the case of an OEM version like dell or HP, the enitire computer would
have to be transfered were if you puchased it with a part, then the part
would be bound to it. It is however possible to upgrade parts of the
computer purchased form HP or dell and opnly have one of the original
componants left and still be in the psirit of the license.
The same applies here as above whether it is a RAM or Virtual drive. It doesn't
matter how the Install Setup Files or Image are accessed.
Back to the original, if it was an install partition, the cd wouldn't exist
to be transfered making it impossible to have a "legal" copy by means of
the first statment. Thats why it matters.
Incorrect. Right off the bat the OP mentioned:
<quote>
and bought a new to me Dell Dimension 2200 loaded with XP
</quote>
This computer is shipped with a CD aptly named Operating System that offers
either Recovery or Install.
Yes, i missed or overlooked the statment that it was a dell. ass for the cd
that it came with, i'll take your word for it. i don't know exactly what it
comes with rather i was making the case that it might not. I have no reason
to believe you would lie to us. i will take you word for it.
As long as it's not in my possession, it doesn't.
Nope, not at all, but this company does!
http://www.bsa.org/
YES, they do get a kickback for it. they also act like they have more power
then they do. They came to a business i administrate demanding to audit the
licenses for software we supposedly run. I guess a disgruntled ex-employee
made a call to them. I recived the call and told the company not to let
them do anything until i could get my attourney and show up (i would have
ben liable for the licences). The BSA l;eft and came back with some US
Marshals and demanded to confiscate the equiptment and all our licenses. My
attourney as well as the companies attouneys ehld them at bay and denied
them access to anyhting. We then have an indepentent audit done on our
license and found that we were legit. The BSA took this audit, reviewed it
and accepted it as fact. We use open licenses thru microsoft at that
location and i guess the ex-employee thought it was piracy when using the
same disk to install on multiple computers. A normal company would probably
let them in, and been fined for somethign (wich isn't binding either). I
have heard stories about that happening and the BSA finding problems that
didn't exist in an attempt to justify thier trip in the first place.
<snipped dribble>
BTW, your spell checkers not working.
Yes my spell checker is borked. It has some custom german ditcionary loaded
along with an english dictionare. I dunno how to unload it or reset it to
plain US english. It actualy takes some words that are spelled corectly and
then aplies a german translation to it then mangles some of them to be a
combination of both so even if i do know the spelling, there is little i can
do about it (untill i reformat i guess)
