XP boot CD

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I bought a pre-packed computer with Windows XP preloaded and no CDs, now my
system is starting to get hinky and I want to create a boot CD. Are these
available anywhere? I looked around online and it seems I can make one if I
have a C:1836 folder, but I do not. ANy ideas?
 
gsquared said:
I bought a pre-packed computer with Windows XP preloaded and no CDs, now my
system is starting to get hinky and I want to create a boot CD. Are these
available anywhere? I looked around online and it seems I can make one if
I
have a C:1836 folder, but I do not. ANy ideas?


Have you looked to see if you have a recovery partition from which you could
do a complete system restore?

Can you contact the vendor for ideas on how to recover your installation?


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Many if not all OEMs now use a hidden partition to store the original
factory image of your PC. Some PCs have a process to actually Burn
or create the Bootable Image set. Others simply use a boot option to
start the recovery. Your PC's documentation should indicate how to go
about restoring the PC. BEFORE doing so, be sure to backup your
personal data ( Docs, Mail....).

Many OEM PCs have the source folder i386 stored on the Windows
volume. It by itself won't make a Windows Installation CD - there are
other components necessary to create one. Also if the i386 folder is on
the drive it's likely a downstream revision ( minus Service Packs ).
If the folder is not visible it may be due to Explorer not showing 100%
of all the content on the drive. You have to make Folder option changes
to be able to see everything.
 
gsquared said:
I bought a pre-packed computer with Windows XP preloaded and no CDs, now my
system is starting to get hinky and I want to create a boot CD. Are these
available anywhere? I looked around online and it seems I can make one if I
have a C:1836 folder, but I do not. ANy ideas?

If you gave some info on your computer like make and model you might get
some more practical help.

You may find an item on the menu to 'build restore CD's'. I've seen
this on HP machines. But other vendors like Dell etc will send you
CD's maybe for shipping fees only. I would contact the PC maker, not
the big box store but the HP/DELL/Acer etc.

You do need the software. And the license key if its not on a sticker
on the bottom / back of the PC.
 
Thanks for the reply. It is a Compaq Presario SR1410NX. I went to Compaq's
website and there are no support discs available at this time. There is no
option to 'build restore CD', and there is no i836 folder, even under hidden
folders. I could restore, but that won't help me do a clean build. Any other
thoughts?
 
Thanks for the reply. It is a Compaq Presario SR1410NX. I went to Compaq's
website and there are no support discs available at this time. There is no
option to 'build restore CD', and there is no i836 folder, even under hidden
folders. I could restore, but that won't help me do a clean build. Any other
thoughts?
 
Thanks for the reply. It is a Compaq Presario SR1410NX. I went to Compaq's
website and there are no support discs available at this time. There is no
option to 'build restore CD', and there is no i836 folder, even under hidden
folders. I could restore, but that won't help me do a clean build. Any other
thoughts?
 
Thanks for the reply. It is a Compaq Presario SR1410NX. I went to Compaq's
website and there are no support discs available at this time. There is no
option to 'build restore CD', and there is no i836 folder, even under hidden
folders. I could restore, but that won't help me do a clean build. Any other
thoughts?
 
Thanks for the reply. It is a Compaq Presario SR1410NX. I went to Compaq's
website and there are no support discs available at this time. There is no
option to 'build restore CD', no recovery partition, and there is no i836
folder, even under hidden folders. I could restore, but that won't help me do
a clean build. Any other thoughts?
 
Thanks for the reply. It is a Compaq Presario SR1410NX. I went to Compaq's
website and there are no support discs available at this time. There is no
option to 'build restore CD', and there is no i836 folder, even under hidden
folders. I could restore, but that won't help me do a clean build. Any other
thoughts?
 
If you have a reputable, small computer repair shop in your area you
may be able to purchase a Generic OEM XP install disk. No Key just
the disk. The only downside is a generic disk may not contain any of
the customized content a Compaq disk would have. You'll probably
have to download most of the drivers from Compaq's website before
you clean install the PC.
 
gsquared said:
Thanks for the reply. It is a Compaq Presario SR1410NX. I went to Compaq's
website and there are no support discs available at this time. There is no
option to 'build restore CD', and there is no i836 folder, even under
hidden
folders. I could restore, but that won't help me do a clean build. Any
other
thoughts?


Do you have a second partition? When the computer starts, are you given the
option to press an F key for system restore?

Did you buy the computer new? If not, it is possible that the previous owner
has wiped out the recovery partition.

You may well have to locate and buy a generic OEM Windows XP Home CD..


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gsquared said:
Thanks for the reply. It is a Compaq Presario SR1410NX. I went to Compaq's
website and there are no support discs available at this time. There is no
option to 'build restore CD', and there is no i836 folder, even under hidden
folders. I could restore, but that won't help me do a clean build. Any other
thoughts?
You say 'I could restore, but...' so that means you have restore CD's
right. Then that's your method of recovery provided by Compag. A
restore to the factory setup. Yes, its not a reload, but it does allow
you to rebuild the computer to get it working.

IS this right?
 
gsquared said:
I bought a pre-packed computer with Windows XP preloaded and no CDs, now my
system is starting to get hinky and I want to create a boot CD. Are these
available anywhere? I looked around online and it seems I can make one if I
have a C:1836 folder, but I do not. ANy ideas?

I see a link here, to order recovery media. Presumably this would be
the same kind of content, as is contained in the recovery partition
on the hard drive. At some point, you'll be prompted to enter the
serial number of the computer. Apparently, HP carries replacement
media sets, for the warranty period, and removes it afterwards. So
it may or may not be available as an offer, indefinitely.

"XP Home SP2 52NAheRED3/4 + Supp 1 Recovery Kit"

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=457547#

The second link in that section, talks about burning your own recovery
media. You get one shot to do it right. If a computer is used, a
previous owner of the computer may have burned (and lost) the
only copy of media this software will prepare for you. In which case
you'd use the previous link, to try to order a set. Make absolutely
certain your burner is working (do a test burn first, and verify the
burn etc). If the burner is flaky, resolve that issue first.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...7939&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=457547&os=228

The third option, is to find a seller on the web, selling recovery
media. I have no idea whether those kinds of offers work for
people, and aren't a ripoff etc. This is the first one I got in
a search for "SR1410NX recovery". They want a total of $31 in
this particular case.

http://www.computersurgeons.com/shoppingcart/s.htm

A fourth option is too complicated. If you downloaded a Knoppix
LiveCD from Knopper.net, you could use the "dd" disk dump command
in Linux, to do a sector by sector copy of your old hard drive,
to a brand new hard drive. But this would not be the easiest procedure
to follow, and if there are bad sectors on the old hard drive,
I cannot guarantee you'd get an exact copy. I used that technique the
last time I needed to clone a disk. I'm booted from the clone right
now. The syntax looks like this, and is run in a terminal (command)
type window.

dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hda2

The copy rate averaged about 13MB/sec for me. I scanned the source
hard drive, ahead of time, for bad sectors, so I knew there were
good odds the copy would work.

When you buy a new hard drive, some manufacturers have software
on their site, to copy the disk. The only problem with that option,
is the copy may be at the file level, rather than just copying
every sector. The sector copy concept is a bit easier on the drive,
since the head on the disk doesn't have to fly around a lot during
the copy.

Finally, if all of this is too complicated, perhaps a local shop can
follow up on one of the options, and install a new hard drive for you.
Note - this may seem counterintuitive, but if you have backup software
and a means at hand, backup your important data before doing anything
else. For example, if you have a large email database on the drive,
copy that over to something, for safe keeping. There have been cases,
where a shop gets the customer's instructions wrong, and just
"reformats C:", wiping out all the customer's data files. So there
is an associated risk with the local shop option, and a backup
of important data is how you survive whatever happens.

HTH,
Paul
 
Big_Al said:
You say 'I could restore, but...' so that means you have restore CD's
right. Then that's your method of recovery provided by Compag. A
restore to the factory setup. Yes, its not a reload, but it does allow
you to rebuild the computer to get it working.

IS this right?

He probably won't answer since he choses to copy and paste the same reply to
everyone. I wouldn't even bother to try to help someone who is too lazy and
inconsiderate to make an effort to answer suggestions about his problem
 
There is no CD. I meant that I could restore to a previously stored point, as
all XPs will allow you to do. I was hoping to wipe and start over, because if
I simply restore I will have the same remnants of pre-loaded trial versions
and anything else that's worked it's way in here.
 
Thanks for your input, and here is your customized answer. I see you call
yourself "olfart". Perhaps you are fortunate enough to be retired and have a
great deal of time on your hands, to not only answer each question
individually, but to take the extra time to be a curmudgeon. Alas, I am not
so fortunate, and I am raising 2 small kids and holding down more work that I
should be, and through it all my computer decided to have issues. If I had
more time I would do the research myself, but unlike you, I work for a
living, and have people who depend on me and make demands of my time, so I
tried to save a little by packaging one answer to all the questions and
pasting it to each person who was kind enough to attempt to help me.

Perhaps someday we will all be fortunate enough to not only have enough time
to devote to everything we wish, as you obviously do, and maybe someday we'll
also all be as smart and as pretty as you.
 
Not sure why you didn't get the answer I sent an hour ago - I do not have the
CDs, I could restore to an older restore point, but that wouldn't clean up
the remnants of all the trial versions that were loaded on here, I think I
need a clean build, and that can only be done from the disk.
 
Odd that the reply I sent you an hour ago didn't post either. Here is your
very own, customized response. I see that you refer to yourself as olfart. It
must be nice to be retired and have all that time to write individual emails
to people just to give them a hard time. Unlike you, I do not have enough
time to do that - I have two young children and I have work, maybe you
remember what it was like to have demands made upon your time, and to have
responsibilities beyond the next meal or the next victim of your attacks. I
thought i'd save a little time by packaging one all encompassing answer to
address all the replies received thusfar and paste them to all. I'm sorry you
find this so offensive, but of course that's your problem not mine. My
problem is a slow computer that did not come with a boot CD.
 
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