XP & 98 not talking - Why?

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GaryDave

My home LAN has a shared internet connection through a hub which works
fine for all machines. The 3 Win98 machines network fine. The XP
machine can neither see or be seen, even after running the network
setup disk on the 3 98 boxes. XP is obviously networked enough to use
the joint internet connection, any suggestions how to get it visible to
the network? It is part of the same workgroup, MAIN. The XP machine
cannot ping the 98s.

Thanks!

Gary Dave
 
C

Chuck

My home LAN has a shared internet connection through a hub which works
fine for all machines. The 3 Win98 machines network fine. The XP
machine can neither see or be seen, even after running the network
setup disk on the 3 98 boxes. XP is obviously networked enough to use
the joint internet connection, any suggestions how to get it visible to
the network? It is part of the same workgroup, MAIN. The XP machine
cannot ping the 98s.

Thanks!

Gary Dave

Gary,

Check for a browser conflict between the WinXP computer and the Win98 computers.
I"m not talking about Internet Explorer here. The browser is the program that
allows any computer to see any other computer on the LAN. The browsers for
WinXP (WinNT/2K/XP) and Win98 (Win95/98/ME) don't work well together on the same
LAN.

Make sure the Browse Master is running on two of the Win98 computers.
http://cms.simons-rock.edu/faq_by_subtopic/node138.html

Stop, and Disable the browser service on the WinXP computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services.

After checking / disabling / enabling as above, restart the WinXP computer.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers (I'm not talking about
Internet Explorer here) you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers list the same master
browser.
For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=231312
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx>

Next, provide ipconfig information for the WinXP computer, and for one of the
Win98 computers.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.

And Gary, posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email,
than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself
a bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the
internet - read this article.
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
 
B

Bob Willard

GaryDave said:
My home LAN has a shared internet connection through a hub which works
fine for all machines. The 3 Win98 machines network fine. The XP
machine can neither see or be seen, even after running the network
setup disk on the 3 98 boxes. XP is obviously networked enough to use
the joint internet connection, any suggestions how to get it visible to
the network? It is part of the same workgroup, MAIN. The XP machine
cannot ping the 98s.

Thanks!

Gary Dave

If it is really a hub, not a switch or router, then it is possible that
the XP PC is in a different IPA subgroup than the W9x PCs. To be in the
same IPA subgroup, normally meants that for IPA=a.b.c.d, the a.b.c is
the same and the d's are unique. To check your IPAs, run WINIPCFG on
the W9x PCs; on XP PCs, run CMD, then type IPCONFIG/ALL in the CMD box.

That said, a misconfigured firewall or a browser conflict are more
likely causes. But, checking the IPAs is easy.
 
G

GaryDave

Thanks Chuck and Bob -

I'll try out your suggestions and report back. No one ever said
networking was easy.

Gary Dave
 

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