WU Update ?

[Guest]

I asked about update being offered in WU over in announcements
with no answers yet : can anybody explain this update better,
so i might understand it, to understand if its a needed update ? Ron

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

Ron - I can't see a message about WU in announcements that I can see relates
to this, and I went to MU and didn't see anything new, so I'm not clear what
update you are speaking of?

 

[Guest]

Ron,

Your Post in announcements:
"Defender Update With Engine Update" in Announcements

Is either incorrect or odd.
I have not updated yet, but already have "Engine Version: 1.1.2306.0"

I do not have "Defintition Version 1.16.2421.5" I have
"Definition Version: 1.16.2420.2

So it would seem that you are mistaken in thinking it is an "Engine Update"
or that you missed the last "Engine Update" and so are being offered it now.

I will now pause to check WU...
pause... pause... pause pause... pause...

An express scan done at 9:02pm Chicago Time offers:
Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (Definition 1.16.2421.5)
at Download size: 108 KB

this would indicate a simple delta signature update, not a "Full Engine"

In any case there is in fact an update and you should get it. As I said
earlier, perhaps you missed the last engine update and it is being offered
now.

We're all messed up with Engel :-(

Btw, I was also offered,
Windows Genuine Advantage Notification (KB905474)
Yeah, like I'm gonna let that happen

?
Tim
Geek w/o Portfolio

I asked about update being offered in WU over in announcements
with no answers yet : can anybody explain this update better,
so i might understand it, to understand if its a needed update ? Ron

===========================
Defender Update With Engine Update in Announcements
Ron H 3/20/2007 4:37 PM PST

Defender has updated with :
Defender Version : 1.1.1593.0
Engine Version :1.1.2306.0
Defintition Version 1.16.2421.5
But i wished someone else had announced this.

 

[Guest]

The link to the delta sig update ONLY is:

http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._55f9ba510778ea7f01ba78e28b51a64aa81ba12b.exe

Which would bring:
Definition Version: 1.16.2420.2
up to:
Defintition Version 1.16.2421.5

I don't have access to the last "Full Engine" update link, sorry folks.

?
"pseudo" Engel

 

[Guest]

OK there is a definition update : 1.16.2420.2 - just made a correction
in announcements with no new engine. Part 2 -
Hi all, could this update be explained a little more thats being offered
from WU updates express :
Root Certificates Update
Download size: 267 KB , less than 1 minute
This item updates the list root certificates on your computer to the latest
list that is accepted by Microsoft as part of the Microsoft Root Certificate
Program. Adding additional root certificates to your computer enables the use
of Extended Validation (EV) certificates in Internet Explorer 7, a greater
range of security enhanced Web browsing, encrypted e-mail, and security
enhanced code delivery.

 

[Guest]

Boy did i mess things up - I'm sorry - And thanks again Tim,
I had a sherry experience with beer Good looking out and good night Ron

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

Ron - if this is the question about what the "root certificate" update is
about:

I would always install such updates. They enable the browser to be able to
clearly indicate to you that a given site is "safe."

If you want to read background from the commercial perspective, here's what
Microsoft has to say:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/security/news/rootcert.mspx?mfr=true

Basically, folks whose certificates will be included will have completed a
Webtrust audit, as described here:

http://www.webtrust.org/

Generally this looks like a good idea, but not cheap!

I gather that the newest Root Certificate updates involve the newer
certificates that give a green background in IE7. These may have a higher
level of encryption, and definitely involve more specific identification of
the certificate with the corporate entity involved--it says Paypal Inc, for
example.

It's possible that the average person won't hit a site which uses one of
these newer certs, but I'm sure Microsoft hopes they will--I don't really
see any downside--these are very small updates, and ones with no executable
content (after the install)--they just load bits into the certificate store.
In a corporate setting, there is a possible downside--there is a limit to
the number of certificates that can be stored in the trusted root store. I
don't think home users need to worry about that, though--and if you do hit
it, the solution is to remove older, expired, or unused certificates from
that store--which you can do using certmgr.msc--(advice: look, but don't do
much in there!)