Winzip use by Microsoft

[Trish Finney]

I'm getting frustrated with Microsoft using Winzip for downloads for its fixes - you can't use the Evaluation version any more, you have to pay for it. If something's broke & Microsoft has to fix it, they shouldn't be able to charge me to use their fix!

 

[John John (MVP)]

Windows XP can extract these files without the use of third party tools,
just right click on the zipped file and extract the contents.
http://www.mdmproofing.com/iym/tutorials/how-unzip-file/

John

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Use the built in windows unzipper?

I'm getting frustrated with Microsoft using Winzip for downloads for its
fixes - you can't use the Evaluation version any more, you have to pay for
it. If something's broke & Microsoft has to fix it, they shouldn't be able
to charge me to use their fix!

 

[Twayne]

Windows XP can extract these files without the
use of
third party tools, just right click on the
zipped file
and extract the contents.
http://www.mdmproofing.com/iym/tutorials/how-unzip-file/
John

I'm not familiar with MS files being zipped; never
came across it except for a few exe's and a cab
file or two. But, XP will only be able to unzip
them if they were zipped with "legacy" zipping
code. I always thought it would work on all zip
files too, but found out differently when I got a
WinZipped file that wasn't set to Legacy zips.

For future reference, do you know if MS always
uses legacy zips?



Twayne

 

[Twayne]

I'm getting frustrated with Microsoft using

Winzip for
downloads for its fixes - you can't use the
Evaluation
version any more, you have to pay for it. If
something's
broke & Microsoft has to fix it, they shouldn't
be able
to charge me to use their fix!

7-ZIP is still free if I'm not mistaken. Free Zip
and UnZip are also free, as is peazip from
SourceForge.com. Several others exist too but I'm
not familiar enough with them to know they are
safe programs. Google will locate any of them
quickly.

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Twayne

 

[John John (MVP)]

I'm not familiar with MS files being zipped; never
came across it except for a few exe's and a cab
file or two. But, XP will only be able to unzip
them if they were zipped with "legacy" zipping
code. I always thought it would work on all zip
files too, but found out differently when I got a
WinZipped file that wasn't set to Legacy zips.

For future reference, do you know if MS always
uses legacy zips?

I don't know. Trish said that the file came from Microsoft, that it was
a Microsoft fix of some sort. If it's an XP fix that came from
Microsoft in a zipped form I would say that you can pretty well be
certain that XP should be able to extract it without the use of third
party tools.

John

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I'm getting frustrated with Microsoft using Winzip for downloads
for its fixes - you can't use the Evaluation version any more,
you have to pay for it. If something's broke & Microsoft has to
fix it, they shouldn't be able to charge me to use their fix!

Microsoft does *not* use Winzip for downloads or for anything else.

Yes, they use zip files, and Windows has the ability to handle and
unzip these files on its own. Winzip is *not* required.

Apparently, you installed Winzip, and since you did that, files that
are zipped are identified on your computer as "Winzip" files, but that
is simply the way Winzip likes to identify them to make you think that
Winzip is required; since you apparently think that, Winzip's strategy
(which is basically dishonest, as far as I'm concerned) apparently
worked.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I'm getting frustrated with Microsoft using Winzip
for downloads for its fixes - you can't use the
Evaluation version any more, you have to pay for it.
If something's broke & Microsoft has to fix it, they
shouldn't be able to charge me to use their fix!

They did not.

They may have used the ZIP compression format- but they are unlikely to have
used WinZip.

If you are getting a WinZip prompt - you installed WinZip and told it to
manage your ZIP files - your bad. ;-)

You can enable native zip management with this command:
regsvr32 zipfldr

(*Just because it is a ZIP file does not mean you have to use "WinZIP".)

 

[Twayne]

I'm getting frustrated with Microsoft using
Winzip for
downloads for its fixes - you can't use the
Evaluation
version any more, you have to pay for it. If
something's
broke & Microsoft has to fix it, they shouldn't
be able
to charge me to use their fix!

Microsoft does *not* use Winzip for downloads or
for
anything else.

Yes, they use zip files, and Windows has the
ability to
handle and unzip these files on its own. Winzip
is *not*
required.[/QUOTE]

Actually, XP only handles "legacy" zipped files
(without the attendant file ext of course).
That's so it can zip/unzip them quickly, causing
minimal delays in the process. Anything using any
algo stronger than legacy cannot be unzipped by
XP; it's not designed to handle them and some of
them didn't even exist when XP was in the design
stages prior to release. The zip technology has
far surpassed the old legacy methods of the past
nowadays.

Apparently, you installed Winzip, and since you
did that,
files that are zipped are identified on your
computer as
"Winzip" files, but that is simply the way
Winzip likes
to identify them to make you think that Winzip
is
required; since you apparently think that,
Winzip's
strategy (which is basically dishonest, as far
as I'm
concerned) apparently worked.

I don't believe she said she used WinZip, did she?
I brought that up I think, along with a couple
others, as a possible solution for her. I guess
WinZip should have been forced to stay forever
free, huh?
As for WinZip being basically dishonest, that's
one of your silliest remarks in some time. If
instead 7-Zip were installed, the files would be
indicated to be 7-Zip files. Like .doc is listed
as a Word file, .bat as a batch file, and so on.
It's Microsoft and its file associatons that causs
something to indicate it's a whatever-file, so you
should actually be blaming Microsoft in that
sense.

Anyway, thanks again,

Twayne

 

[Twayne]

Yeah, god forbid you use the unzipping
functionality
already built into Windows XP or get a freebie
zip/unzip
tool, like 7-Zip. So far, you're proven that
you are
lazy.

And that you are an overblown idiot with the
interpersonal skills of an ox.

 

[Trish Finney]

So far you have proven that you are rude. People ask questions when they
don't know the answers, not when they have a deep, hidden desire to be
publicly ridiculed. Please tell me you don't have a job in customer service!