WinXP 'Windows Updates'

[Greegor]

Customers used to be able to order update DVD's from MS.
Has MS stopped doing this?

 

[Henry]

You can also get the order the updates were installed by looking at the
"Date Created" column in the original C:\Windows\$hf_mig$ folder. It
even gives the time.

My $hf_mig$ folder only goes through 5/14/13. Where are the rest of them please?

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Bruce, Paul (in this discussion) has said the following:

"If you can guess at what the KB is of the latest Internet Explorer
security patch, you can download that patch separately. Once
installed, your Internet Explorer version is up to date.

The very next attempt to reach Windows Update, because it has
no need to burrow into all the old Internet Explorer information,
wuauserv finishes its job in ten to fifteen seconds.

When an Internet Explorer patch arrives in January, the same
thing will happen. Long delay on Windows Update. Simply, track
down the Jan.2014 Internet Explorer update, install it separately,
and the long delay will be gone again. You can then open
Windows Update and finish the other Jan.2014 patches."

I don't run Automatic Updates on my XP MCE SP3 computer, do it manually
every couple of weeks or so. My question would be then, how does one guess
at what the KB name of the next Internet Explorer 8 security patch so as
to be able to download and install it before attempting to update one's
system? Or is there a way to find that update which is easier?

TIA

I have my machines set to notify, but not install. When the patches are
released on January 14, they will all be labeled and finding the IE patch
will be easy. Only 3 more updates after that.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086

However, the .iso files are only for a particular month. They're not
cumulative, so it would mean a lot of downloading and work.

How much space would all the updates - for XP - since SP3 actually
require?

(Are Microsoft likely to sell a cumulative CD (or DVD) with them all on?
If they did, at reasonable price, I can't be the only one who'd buy it.)

Assuming they don't, and we get them all using the utility mentioned a
lot here recently (something like MSUS?), how easy, difficult, or even
possible would it be to install them all - even to find out which order
to do it in? (Increasing order of KBnumber?)

 

[Paul]

Bruce, Paul (in this discussion) has said the following:

"If you can guess at what the KB is of the latest Internet Explorer
security patch, you can download that patch separately. Once
installed, your Internet Explorer version is up to date.

The very next attempt to reach Windows Update, because it has
no need to burrow into all the old Internet Explorer information,
wuauserv finishes its job in ten to fifteen seconds.

When an Internet Explorer patch arrives in January, the same
thing will happen. Long delay on Windows Update. Simply, track
down the Jan.2014 Internet Explorer update, install it separately,
and the long delay will be gone again. You can then open
Windows Update and finish the other Jan.2014 patches."

I don't run Automatic Updates on my XP MCE SP3 computer, do it manually
every couple of weeks or so. My question would be then, how does one
guess at what the KB name of the next Internet Explorer 8 security patch
so as to be able to download and install it before attempting to update
one's system? Or is there a way to find that update which is easier?

TIA

Well, you know it's a Catch 22.

I made the suggestion, as a means to state what the
"most efficient" solution would be. Can we know
using ESP, what the KB number of the January release
of IE Cumulative Security Update will be ?

One of the MVPs, seemed to have advanced warning of
incoming updates, implying the "numbers" of the
updates were available, somewhere. As for me
personally, I just "Google and hope for the best".
I have no "guaranteed good source" of info. I'm not
an insider.

Some of the security institutions (SANS institute),
may have notices concerning IE issues and have an
MS security bulletin number. So there may be
scraps of information floating around.

But if you rely on Windows Update to "fetch" the
information, then we have to wait the "30 minutes
plus, running at 100% CPU" to get the KB number.
Surely not a good way to get the KB number

If Google gives you the number, then great.
If not, be patient, and sit on your hands for
30 minutes, until WU "coughs up the number". Argh!

Paul

 

[Motor T]

My update history isn't complete at the Microsoft update website
because somewhere along the line, I was switched from the Windows
Update website to the Microsoft Update website. That came about maybe
because I'm running XP MCE SP3. So now, I don't even have a way to
find out which updates I'd need to rathole for this computer.

Will a Belarc Advisor profile tell you which one's you have currently
installed? (Even though you deleted the listings from the Windows
folder).

 

[Henry]

Sorry, I don't use that particular program. I use several others though,
one of which is WinAudit:

http://www.pxserver.com/WinAudit.htm

I just ran it and it provides what looks like a nice list of all the
updates that are installed along with the dates they were installed.

What a neat program. Thanks. Henry

 

[Henry]

Sorry, I don't use that particular program. I use several others though,
one of which is WinAudit:

http://www.pxserver.com/WinAudit.htm

I just ran it and it provides what looks like a nice list of all the
updates that are installed along with the dates they were installed.

AIDA32 and AIDA64 will also show your updates. Google them. Henry

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: []
J.P., I have no idea how much space such a collection of isos would (John)
involve. However, as I mentioned in another post:

In my case, 134 objects, 1,807 files, 394 folders. Only 424 MB!

...by which I meant the C:\Windows\$hf_mig$ hidden system folder. On my
system, that folder is currently 874 MB (916,549,677 bytes) in size.

[]
You can also get the order the updates were installed by looking at the
"Date Created" column in the original C:\Windows\$hf_mig$ folder. It even
gives the time.

In my case, one from 2009-1-9, 32 from 2009-7-20, one each from
2009-8-7, 2011-5-14, and`2012-6-16, and 99 from 2013-9-15. I must update
more often (-: ...

HTH.

It did, thanks.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Dook, that was great but I think the line needs
awe. Can you do it again, giving it just a little awe?"

"Sure, George," said Wayne and looking up at the cross said:
"Aw, truly this man is the son of God."
(recounted in Radio Times, 30 March-5 April 2013.)

 

[Greegor]

In my case, 134 objects, 1,807 files, 394 folders. Only 424 MB!

That's starting from SP3, right?

By the way, what exactly is the difference between
the Windows Update Site and the Microsoft Update site?

Is there a difference?

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

That's starting from SP3, right?
Yes.

By the way, what exactly is the difference between
the Windows Update Site and the Microsoft Update site?

Is there a difference?

I don't know.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I don't even use words like 'environment'. People live in /the world/. The
'environment' is the kind of place where people wear 'apparel' instead of
clothes. - Billy Connolly, in Radio Times, 14-20 February 2009

 

[Bruce Hagen]

I don't know.

MU does all MS programs, i.e. Office. WU doesn't. (Unless they have made
changes I don't know about).