Windows Vista Ultimate Installation

[Guest]

Hi,

I recently purchased Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. When I come to do a
clean install, it asks me for a CD / DVD driver.

After reading several topics in here, I discovered that it was looking for
the IDE controller drivers. I downloaded the vista ones and put them on cd.
It saw the drivers whilst the "dont show drivers that aren't compatible" box
was ticked. I selected the driver and clicked next and it came up with the
same error message.

I then read further on this site, and I was told to try using the old
drivers. I tried these and still got the same message.

I have searched several sites and cannot find anything specific to this
problem

Please help...

Thanks

 

[John Barnes]

Vista has all the CD DVD and IDE drivers it needs. Maybe if you were a
little more specific as to the steps you went thru and exactly when it asked
for the drivers, someone could help

 

[Dustin Harper]

I beg to differ. My laptop required the IDE drivers (Newer Gateway P4
laptop). Threw them on a disk and the install finished and worked great. It
took a long while to get them working though.

I was doing a dual boot, couldn't find the drivers off the Gateway site, so
I used the Windows XP drivers. Worked this time. Not sure if it would work
for you, though.

--
Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com

--

 

[John Barnes]

There hasn't been a change in IDE standards since XP that would require any
drivers but the Microsoft supplied atapi.sys and ataport.sys
Just curious what driver you have installed.

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> "John Barnes"

There hasn't been a change in IDE standards since XP that would require any
drivers but the Microsoft supplied atapi.sys and ataport.sys
Just curious what driver you have installed.

The IDE standard may not have changed, but that doesn't mean that there
aren't IDE controllers which need updated drivers.

It's possible the controller adds some of it's own memory for caching,
for example. RAID is another example, although less likely on a laptop
(but not impossible, I have a laptop that supports three physical
drives)

 

[John Barnes]

No one was talking about RAID, which does need drivers. Name one IDE
controller that doesn't function with default IDE drivers.

 

[John Barnes]

Not esoteric server boards, though.

No one was talking about RAID, which does need drivers. Name one IDE
controller that doesn't function with default IDE drivers.

 

[Guest]

I choose the language to install vista in and then it waits and then asks a
few mins later "cannot find cd/dvd driver etc...." I downloaded the vista
JMicron IDE Controller from the MSI website.

It can see the driver and when I click next, it waits a few mins and then
says "unable to find new driver" It is exactly the same when I try the old
drivers as well for XP. Its happening at the very beginning of the
installation and I have the correct drivers, but it just won't accept them.

What would you recommend?

 

[John Barnes]

Does the MOBO have a later BIOS? When you say it waits, is anything showing
as doing anything (if so, what), or is it a hang type wait? It is using the
DVD player when it asks you so it has the driver. It asks for any drive hd
drivers at the time you select the place to make the installation. Since we
have no idea about your system, how about providing some information. What
are you installing on? Others have had to temporarily unplug extra hard
drives and cd drives. Do you have multiple CD/DVD drives? Both IDE and
SATA hard drives?

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> "John Barnes"

Not esoteric server boards, though.

Sure -- In that case, lets just name all the IDE controllers that need
additional drivers that don't work with the built-in IDE drivers.

*sigh*

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> DevilsPGD

In message <[email protected]> "John Barnes"


Sure -- In that case, lets just name all the IDE controllers that need
additional drivers that don't work with the built-in IDE drivers.

*sigh*

Oh, and to answer your question, any Gigabyte IDE or SATA motherboard
which has RAID on board -- If RAID is enabled, then you need the RAID
drivers even if you don't use the RAID functionality.

Simply plugging your drive into the RAID instead of non-RAID ports are
not sufficient.

 

[John Barnes]

How many posts back did I say RAID needed drivers. The whole string was
about standard IDE /ATA/ CD/DVD. Since the post was about CD/DVD, I
personally have never seen RAID CD/DVD setup, but I am sure you must have.
As of now, no SIS, nVidia or Via southbridges need other than the standard
Microsoft supplied IDE drivers. Other than RAID, maybe you are confused
that nVidia labels a driver set IDE when they are for SATA to operate in IDE
mode, not for the IDE controller.

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> "John Barnes"

How many posts back did I say RAID needed drivers. The whole string was
about standard IDE /ATA/ CD/DVD. Since the post was about CD/DVD, I
personally have never seen RAID CD/DVD setup, but I am sure you must have.
As of now, no SIS, nVidia or Via southbridges need other than the standard
Microsoft supplied IDE drivers. Other than RAID, maybe you are confused
that nVidia labels a driver set IDE when they are for SATA to operate in IDE
mode, not for the IDE controller.

Semantics -- You can use many RAID controllers as IDE controllers, even
optical drives sometimes work.

The only different to the user may be the colour of the port on the
motherboard, and the drivers you'd need.

 

[Guest]

Hi,

I have updated my BIOS to the latest version. I have also tried completely
unplugging my DVD ROM drive and installing from USB, to which I get the same
error message

"A required CD/DVD device driver is missing. If you have a driver floopy
disk, cd dvd, or usb please insert it now."

I have downloaded the latest Vista drivers from the website and the
installation program sees them. When I select it and click next the green bar
comes across several times and then I am presented with another message

" No new devices could be found. Make sure the driver files are correctt and
loacted on the new driver installation media."

I have even tried the old XP drivers with the "only show compatible drivers"
box unchecked and it does the same thing.

I am running a MSI P965 Neo board with an Intel Dual core Core Duo 2.4Ghz.
My hard drive is a Maxtor and is plugged into a SATA 2 port on the
Motherboard. I have tried moving it to a different SATA slot which made the
whole process a lot faster for some reason, there was no wait time at all
between selecting language and receving the error message. It also doesn't
show up anymore on the JMIcron RAID devices and is in BIOS, under devices
instead as a secondary master. But apart from the speed increase of
installation, this made no difference.

I only have one hard drive and one DVD rom drive and one usb drive (which I
have turned off and on to see if it affects it)

I am completely lost now and I don't know why windows can't recognise my
hardware....???

Please help
Thanks

 

[John Barnes]

Since you have tried two BIOS's and even removed any CD/DVD devices from
your system, hopefully someone with your board will be able to help. You
might also post what your BIOS and versions are as that may help if someone
got a different version to work with your board. I copied the following
info from the MOBO site in case you haven't seen it and you need to make
adjustments. Highly unlikely this is related to this problem.

Due to the High Performance Memory design, motherboards or system
configurations may or may not operate smoothly at the JEDEC (Joint Electron
Device Engineering Council) standard settings (BIOS Default on the
motherboard) such as DDR2 voltage, memory speeds and memory timing. Please
confirm and adjust your memory setting in the BIOS accordingly for better
system stability.

 

[John Barnes]

The version 1.6 BIOS seems to work best for many. Don't know what you have
tried but other versions have been panned. Also, Vista is being informed by
the BIOS incorrectly about something on the machine. I would suggest that
you turn off all IDE and SATA that you are not using and make sure you have
the right mode selected for the one you are using

 

[Guest]

Hi, Thanks for your help John, its much appreciated.

The BIOS version I am using at the moment is 1.8 (the newest) I have tried
1.6 with no luck. I have one HD and its SATA only so I have to use it. I
unplugged the IDE cable for the DVD and just used the USB Drive.

I got the same error messages, however when I went to select the JMicron
RAID/IDE drivers it would not see them, so I presumed it was looking to
install something else. It was, the Realtek Gigabit Ethernet NIC. So I
pointed it at these drivers, which produced the same error message as before.

I decided to turn this off in BIOS, and got the same error message on
installation. I looked for the Gigabit drivers and it wouldn't see them, so I
presumed that it had moved on to looking for another device to install, so
after checking all of the available driver updates available online from the
MSI website, which were only 5, I found that it wasn't looking for anything
that I could recognise.

I've tried turning down the voltages also, as you mentioned earlier in BIOS,
which produced no visible result.

I'm not sure what the problem is here. Whether it can't install anything at
all and even though the correct drivers are there, it refuses to install them
and gives out an error message, or there is something wrong with the whole
installation.

I'm a bit lost, any more ideas??

Thanks

 

[Don]

Hi, Thanks for your help John, its much appreciated.

The BIOS version I am using at the moment is 1.8 (the newest) I have tried
1.6 with no luck. I have one HD and its SATA only so I have to use it. I
unplugged the IDE cable for the DVD and just used the USB Drive...

Do I understand correctly that, so far, all the third-party drivers you
have fed to Vista have been on a CD/DVD of some kind? (Not quite sure
from reading what you've said.)

If so, I might try putting the drivers on a floppy or a USB stick
instead, because your problem seems to be with drivers for DVD devices,
and you are looking for the drivers on the device that Vista thinks
is not yet working properly. (Perhaps.)

 

[Guest]

I did at first. Then I have since tried loading the drivers from a USB stick
and from a hard drive.

I'm really lost with this one and I can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
The XP installation was sooooo much easier, no probs at all. I just don't
understand what the installation wants.

If anyone can help, its much appreciated

Thanks

 

[Don]

... I have since tried loading the drivers from a USB stick
and from a hard drive.

I'm really lost with this one and I can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
The XP installation was sooooo much easier, no probs at all. I just don't
understand what the installation wants.

I went back over this long thread and ran across this info from a post
by DevilsPDG:

....any Gigabyte IDE or SATA motherboard
which has RAID on board -- If RAID is enabled, then you need the RAID
drivers even if you don't use the RAID functionality.
Simply plugging your drive into the RAID instead of non-RAID ports are
not sufficient.

It might be worth considering even if your mobo isn't by Gigabyte.