Windows Vista Premium will it work

[Guest]

I have run the Windows Vista upgrade Advsior and it tells me that i can run
Windows areo and all the other features in Premium edition will this be
correct it will all work? and i will have no problems?

 

[BobS]

No....

If you're unwilling to provide any more info than that - how can anyone say
you will not have any problems?

So the Advisor did not pick out anything as having to be removed nor any
programs that may require updates or hardware that need drivers?

Bob S.

 

[john]

I have run the Windows Vista upgrade Advsior and it tells me that i can run
Windows areo and all the other features in Premium edition will this be
correct it will all work? and i will have no problems?

Don't believe it.

Post after post after post in this NG sings exactly the same song from the
same people, the MS shills

Users -should have known- their hardware wouldn't work
Users -should have known- their software wouldn't work
Fine.

my gripe is in how MS is (once again) marketing this thing
The only real tool available to potential upgraders is their HCL
(Hardware Compatibility List) and their Upgrade Advisor.

Who do I see and complain to when both these MS supplied tools told me my
hardware was fine, only to find out later that it simply wasn't true?
- this rig is less than 6 months old, yet my "new" ATI card, my "new"
soundblaster, my "new" modem and my "new" cardreader are all now
doorstops?
yea, I know - this is all MY fault, or so I've been told...

I actually had one MS zombie defend this crap with (and I quote):

"...The problem with some of the tools and lists Microsoft has put out is
they
rely a lot on information provided to them by the manufacturers of the
equipment. If Microsoft relays that info and then a device doesn't work,
who is to blame?..."

This is just incredible - how some of the evangelists keep inventing new
ways to apologize for Microsoft shortcomings.

 

[Malke]

I have run the Windows Vista upgrade Advsior and it tells me that i can run
Windows areo and all the other features in Premium edition will this be
correct it will all work? and i will have no problems?

No one here can answer that since you haven't told us anything about
your computer. If you have an OEM machine such as a Dell, HP, Sony, etc.
your next step is to go to their tech support website for your specific
model machine. See what the Vista support is - you need drivers for the
hardware.

If you have a generic machine, then Google for Vista support for your
hardware. You can also Google for "Vista + [name/model of your video
card] to find out if it will do Aero.

Or post the full specs of your machine here. I would not rely on the
Upgrade Advisor alone.


Malke

 

[NoStop]

Don't believe it.

Post after post after post in this NG sings exactly the same song from the
same people, the MS shills

Users -should have known- their hardware wouldn't work
Users -should have known- their software wouldn't work
Fine.

my gripe is in how MS is (once again) marketing this thing
The only real tool available to potential upgraders is their HCL
(Hardware Compatibility List) and their Upgrade Advisor.

Who do I see and complain to when both these MS supplied tools told me my
hardware was fine, only to find out later that it simply wasn't true?
- this rig is less than 6 months old, yet my "new" ATI card, my "new"
soundblaster, my "new" modem and my "new" cardreader are all now
doorstops?
yea, I know - this is all MY fault, or so I've been told...

I actually had one MS zombie defend this crap with (and I quote):

"...The problem with some of the tools and lists Microsoft has put out is
they
rely a lot on information provided to them by the manufacturers of the
equipment. If Microsoft relays that info and then a device doesn't work,
who is to blame?..."

This is just incredible - how some of the evangelists keep inventing new
ways to apologize for Microsoft shortcomings.

You've got that right. I think if you scratch the pimple a bit, you'll find
the puss that comes out is inevitably due to the fact that these Fanboys
(and girls) have a direct financial stake in supporting Microsoft's toy
operating systems. They make their livings "troubleshooting" these insecure
operating systems, cleaning malware off of little old ladies' computers.
This is the reason that they get their backs up whenever their beloved toy
operating systems are challenged in anyway. If they don't have a direct
financial interest, they have an ego problem. They "know" Windoze and it
strokes their egos to be MVPs (most valuable player - when it comes to toy
operating systems) and they'd just be ordinary "newbies" if they had to
take on an alternative operating system, like GNU/Linux. So they apologize
and apologize and spread more FUD about the glories of Microsoft's
offerings and never admit its very very many shortcomings.

Cheers.

 

[Kerry Brown]

The Upgrade Advisor is just that an advisor. It is not infallible. If it
says it will work it probably will but make sure you have an exit strategy
just in case. Many things can and do go wrong when doing something like
upgrading an OS. Make sure you have a good backup and that you know how to
restore it before starting the upgrade process. If at all possible do a
clean install rather than an upgrade. If you do decide to do an upgrade
install then before you start do the following.

1) Backup your PC.
2) Back it up again.
3) Test your backups.

If you skip the above steps please don't whine that the upgrade trashed all
your files. Any process that involves this many changes to the file system
is fraught with danger. If you don't have full backup of your pc before
starting the upgrade you are an idiot and shouldn't really have a pc to
start with This may sound harsh but it is reality.

4) Run the latest version of the Upgrade Advisor and note anything it flags.
5) Uninstall (not disable) all antivirus, antispyware, firewall, disk
utility, and system utility programs even if the upgrade advisor doesn't
mention them. You will need to install Vista compatible versions after the
upgrade is finished.
6) Uninstall (not disable) all programs that the upgrade advisor flags as
possible problems. You will need to install Vista compatible versions after
the upgrade is finished.
7) If possible remove all hardware that the upgrade advisor flags as
incompatible.
8) Make sure you have Vista compatible drivers and software for all your
hardware devices burned to CD. Don't just look for drivers that the upgrade
advisor mentioned. If possible have drivers ready for everything.
9) Physically unplug any external devices like portable hard drives,
printers, card readers, flash drives, cameras, etc..
10) Run a chkdsk on all the partitions on all hard drives still connected.
11) Defrag the system partition.
12) Start the Vista upgrade process.

 

[Richard Urban]

The upgrade advisor is NOT the last word. You are. Have you researched your
desired programs on the manufacturers web sites? Have you researched your
hardware the same way?

Bring the computer to a professional with your Vista DVD and tell him to
install Vista for you. He will then have to do the above research, download
drivers and program patches to get a good install. Yes, you will pay for his
service, but YOU will not have to do the research.

I have not yet failed to return a computer to a customer in 100% working
order - dependent only upon the capabilities of their installed hardware.
Even then, if they want the missing capabilities I will upgrade the hardware
for them. I also tell them if they should stay with Windows XP for their
particular machine, and save the upgrade for another computer.



--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User

 

[mikeyhsd]

NO one can guarantee that it will work for you.
there are way too many variables.
you might start with your hardware and check each manufacturer to see if they TOTALLY support vista.
then start with your 3rd party programs and do the same.
read the release notes on uninstalling certain programs.
uninstall any and all virus,firewall, cd/dvd special software.

if you go out and buy newest hardware/programs that have come out since vista was released, you can almost guarantee problems with them.



(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com

I have run the Windows Vista upgrade Advsior and it tells me that i can run
Windows areo and all the other features in Premium edition will this be
correct it will all work? and i will have no problems?

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

You should have no major problems..

However, some drivers that have been supplied for inclusion in the Vista
installation are still in their infancy.. this applies particularly to video
drivers.. some are better than others, and you may well find that you do not
have all of the features to which you are accustomed..

Since the release of Vista, some manufacturers have endeavored to produce
better drivers, so a visit to the various manufacturer websites can prove
beneficial..

Re. software.. a not inconsiderable amount of software does still work with
Vista.. if Vista reports that software should be removed prior to
installation, one should NOT attempt to re-install it after Vista is on the
computer.. in other cases, software may run ok but have maybe one or two
minor issues.. it can happen..

It is not a bad idea to visit manufacturer and software websites to check
out any known issues BEFORE installing Vista.. this should be done before
any move from one OS to another..

What you, or anybody else, has to do is decide how important some hardware
and software is, to either your enjoyment, or to anything 'mission critical'
within your operation.. if all appears well, then you are in a position to
upgrade..

Bear in mind that the Vista Upgrade Advisor is only as good as the
information for which it is aware.. if driver manufacturers and software
authors have not supplied 100% correct info to Microsoft, the Advisor MAY
appear to have been misleading in its findings..

Any future software or hardware under consideration for purchase by you
AFTER having upgraded to Vista will need to be researched before you pay out
money.. in many cases, there is a fix of some kind, but not always..

A case in point is Nero 7.. this software is ONLY 100% compatible with Vista
from version 7.7.5.1.. this may not be the version contained on the CD from
the store purchased box, depending upon how long the box has been on the
shelf.. there is a full downloadable version on the Nero website for people
who have already purchased a FULL version of the program suite from either
the Nero website or a store.. the OEM versions as supplied with OEM CD/DVD
units do NOT qualify..

The same kind of situation applies to hardware, where the installation files
on the supplied CD may not be the latest drivers for the latest OS..

ALWAYS check first before buying.. CAVEAT EMPTOR.

..

I have run the Windows Vista upgrade Advsior and it tells me that i can run
Windows areo and all the other features in Premium edition will this be
correct it will all work? and i will have no problems?

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Alias]

The upgrade advisor is NOT the last word. You are. Have you researched
your desired programs on the manufacturers web sites? Have you
researched your hardware the same way?

Bring the computer to a professional with your Vista DVD and tell him to
install Vista for you. He will then have to do the above research,
download drivers and program patches to get a good install. Yes, you
will pay for his service, but YOU will not have to do the research.

I have not yet failed to return a computer to a customer in 100% working
order - dependent only upon the capabilities of their installed
hardware. Even then, if they want the missing capabilities I will
upgrade the hardware for them. I also tell them if they should stay with
Windows XP for their particular machine, and save the upgrade for
another computer.

Buying new hardware for NT's version of Windows Me is foolish.

Wait for Vienna when Ninja hardware is not only common place but much
cheaper than it is today.

Alias

 

[Mellowed]

I have run the Windows Vista upgrade Advsior and it tells me that i can run
Windows areo and all the other features in Premium edition will this be
correct it will all work? and i will have no problems?

Expect problems, especially with older hardware and software. I have had to
replace the following - -
Paperport
Roxio for Nero, and even the new Nero didn't work. I had to download a
200mb fix.
Scanner. I bought a new HP scanner for Vista, and even that only has
partial functionality until HP can produce new Vista compatible software.
Printer - Lost some funtionality of my Brother printer. No more duplex
printing for example.
Outlook 2000 no longer works. Had to find a work around. Office 2000 does
work.

The above problems were not unexpected. Overall I am very happy with the
new computer and Vista. Just keep your eyes open! I would not upgrade
unless you had a compelling reason to do so.

 

[Mellowed]

You should have no major problems..

However, some drivers that have been supplied for inclusion in the Vista
installation are still in their infancy.. this applies particularly to
video drivers.. some are better than others, and you may well find that
you do not have all of the features to which you are accustomed..

Since the release of Vista, some manufacturers have endeavored to produce
better drivers, so a visit to the various manufacturer websites can prove
beneficial..

Re. software.. a not inconsiderable amount of software does still work
with Vista.. if Vista reports that software should be removed prior to
installation, one should NOT attempt to re-install it after Vista is on
the computer.. in other cases, software may run ok but have maybe one or
two minor issues.. it can happen..

It is not a bad idea to visit manufacturer and software websites to check
out any known issues BEFORE installing Vista.. this should be done before
any move from one OS to another..

What you, or anybody else, has to do is decide how important some hardware
and software is, to either your enjoyment, or to anything 'mission
critical' within your operation.. if all appears well, then you are in a
position to upgrade..

Bear in mind that the Vista Upgrade Advisor is only as good as the
information for which it is aware.. if driver manufacturers and software
authors have not supplied 100% correct info to Microsoft, the Advisor MAY
appear to have been misleading in its findings..

Any future software or hardware under consideration for purchase by you
AFTER having upgraded to Vista will need to be researched before you pay
out money.. in many cases, there is a fix of some kind, but not always..

A case in point is Nero 7.. this software is ONLY 100% compatible with
Vista from version 7.7.5.1.. this may not be the version contained on the
CD from the store purchased box, depending upon how long the box has been
on the shelf.. there is a full downloadable version on the Nero website
for people who have already purchased a FULL version of the program suite
from either the Nero website or a store.. the OEM versions as supplied
with OEM CD/DVD units do NOT qualify..

The same kind of situation applies to hardware, where the installation
files on the supplied CD may not be the latest drivers for the latest OS..

ALWAYS check first before buying.. CAVEAT EMPTOR.

.


--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

from version 7.7.5.1.. this may not be the version contained on the CD from
the store purchased box, depending upon how long the box has been on the
shelf.. there is a full downloadable version on the Nero website for people
who have already purchased a FULL version of the program suite from either
the Nero website or a store.. <<<<

My experience Exactly! However, note that the new Nero will not function
with AERO. You must go back to Classic. I don't have a clue why that
happens.

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP]

I will reword slightly.. this software is ONLY 99% compatible...

from version 7.7.5.1.. this may not be the version contained on the CD
from
the store purchased box, depending upon how long the box has been on the
shelf.. there is a full downloadable version on the Nero website for
people
who have already purchased a FULL version of the program suite from either
the Nero website or a store.. <<<<

My experience Exactly! However, note that the new Nero will not function
with AERO. You must go back to Classic. I don't have a clue why that
happens.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Doug]

Mike Hall

from version 7.7.5.1.. this may not be the version contained on the CD
from
the store purchased box, depending upon how long the box has been on the
shelf.. there is a full downloadable version on the Nero website for
people
who have already purchased a FULL version of the program suite from either
the Nero website or a store.. <<<<

My experience Exactly! However, note that the new Nero will not function
with AERO. You must go back to Classic. I don't have a clue why that
happens.

I have just upgraded to Nero 7.7.5.1., using Vista Ultimate and it functions
with AERO

ATI X700 Pro

Doug