Windows install not valid, 17 times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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tiredoldman

I bought a computer with Windows Vista Home Premium installed from a large
company. Got it home,hooked it up and validated the Lic...Kewl..
Then did the Auto updates, and it also did that WGA program, okay,,Ran great
for a few days, then I got a pop up about "This version of Windows is NOT
Valid" and said I would only have limited use of my computer, until I bought
a new Lic. key !
Well, called Mfg. comp. of computer,,they said it's legal, called MS,, and
they said it was a legal Lic. Key,,but, hey gave me another one just so it
would work. Kewl, No problems for about another week,,then it did it again,
Not valid stuff all over . I jumped thru the hoops, got another Lic. Key..and
did fine for another week,,and BINGO,,Did it again !!!
The only thing being done to this computer every week is Auto Updates and MS
runs that WGA everytime!!!!! ANd everytime they do,,it does this stuff !!!
WHY?? MY computer IS legal, Lic. came with it,,Bought it and paid for
it,,,now why do I have to go thru all this to use a LEGAL computer???
I am ready to return this computer to the MFG. and get my money back,,as I
am being denied use of it BY MS. WHY MS??? Please tell me WHY should I have
to go through all this ????
 
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David B.

Who is this large company? If your Vista License is OEM, they are required
to provide you support, not Microsoft.
 
B

bomb#20

tiredoldman said:
I bought a computer with Windows Vista Home Premium installed from a
large company. Got it home,hooked it up and validated the
Lic...Kewl..
Then did the Auto updates, and it also did that WGA program,
okay,,Ran great for a few days, then I got a pop up about "This
version of Windows is NOT Valid" and said I would only have limited
use of my computer, until I bought a new Lic. key !
Well, called Mfg. comp. of computer,,they said it's legal, called
MS,, and they said it was a legal Lic. Key,,but, hey gave me another
one just so it would work. Kewl, No problems for about another
week,,then it did it again, Not valid stuff all over . I jumped thru
the hoops, got another Lic. Key..and did fine for another week,,and
BINGO,,Did it again !!!
The only thing being done to this computer every week is Auto Updates
and MS runs that WGA everytime!!!!! ANd everytime they do,,it does
this stuff !!! WHY?? MY computer IS legal, Lic. came with it,,Bought
it and paid for it,,,now why do I have to go thru all this to use a
LEGAL computer???
I am ready to return this computer to the MFG. and get my money
back,,as I am being denied use of it BY MS. WHY MS??? Please tell me
WHY should I have to go through all this ????

Not for much longer:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7126902.stm
..
 
V

vista na na - na na nia

because with vista MS thinks you a thief and every time you have to prove
you are not one...

sick tacticts that are already backfiring on MS

just one more reason vista is sheit
 
P

Peter Foldes

Just a stupid question. Are you using a Registry Cleaning tool by any chance and which one.
 
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norm

David said:
Who is this large company? If your Vista License is OEM, they are
required to provide you support, not Microsoft.
I don't believe that the oems have any responsibility when it comes to
activation and the "blessing" from ms that any particular installation
is genuine.
 
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tiredoldman

Yes, it is a OEM,,but, after doing the Validation proccess, Windows said
thank you ,your version is now valid,.. then every week , it rejects the Lic.
Key,shuts down my computer, and I have to go through all this EVERY WEEK.
EVEN with the Lic. Key from Microsoft! lol
Get another Key,,and then it works for another week, then the nasty pop up
about being illegal, and stops me from using my computer till I jump thru the
hoops again..No wonder i'm losing my hair!
I just want my computer to work right. I paid a large amount of money for
this computer, and I just want my computer to work. I don't know WHY this is
happening. All I know, is once a week,this thing goes nutso about this
Lic.Key stuff,,,and NOTHING has been changed on here since I bought it.
Except that when I do the auto updates,,this happens.Now that tells me that
the problem is not with the Mfg, but, with the OS side of this..
I have 12 computers in my home, 4 of them are running Windows XP Pro, and
this one has Vista, so, it's not like i'm trying to Bash windows,,BUT, I want
my computer to work all the time,not just for 6 days outta 7..
And as far as which company Mfg. this computer,, Equus , also known as Mirus
.. Not that that is going to make a difference, as they sell 1000's of rigs
all over the world.
I do thank you for your input,but, I don't think this is a Mfg, support item
as the last 3 lic's. I got were directly from Microsoft and it still happened.
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

Restart your computer two (2) times. You should then see the activation
screen after these reboots and be able to activate the machine by entering
your genuine Windows Vista Product Key.
Afterward, visit http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/ and click on
Validate Windows, then restart your computer again.

What Microsoft says about the issue:

"This is Trusted Store tamper due to checkpoint mismatch.
While not sure why the system ended up in that state but the
information in Trusted Store files is not in sync with the one
in registry. So, Trusted Store was recreated, which means that
product key and any other information stored in trusted store
was erased. The user should see activation screen after a couple
of reboots and should be able to activate the machine by entering
the product key."


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

:

I bought a computer with Windows Vista Home Premium installed from a large
company. Got it home,hooked it up and validated the Lic...Kewl..
Then did the Auto updates, and it also did that WGA program, okay,,Ran great
for a few days, then I got a pop up about "This version of Windows is NOT
Valid" and said I would only have limited use of my computer, until I bought
a new Lic. key !
Well, called Mfg. comp. of computer,,they said it's legal, called MS,, and
they said it was a legal Lic. Key,,but, hey gave me another one just so it
would work. Kewl, No problems for about another week,,then it did it again,
Not valid stuff all over . I jumped thru the hoops, got another Lic. Key..and
did fine for another week,,and BINGO,,Did it again !!!
The only thing being done to this computer every week is Auto Updates and MS
runs that WGA everytime!!!!! ANd everytime they do,,it does this stuff !!!
WHY?? MY computer IS legal, Lic. came with it,,Bought it and paid for
it,,,now why do I have to go thru all this to use a LEGAL computer???
I am ready to return this computer to the MFG. and get my money back,,as I
am being denied use of it BY MS. WHY MS??? Please tell me WHY should I have
to go through all this ????
 
F

Frank

vista said:
because with vista MS thinks you a thief and every time you have to prove
you are not one...

sick tacticts that are already backfiring on MS

just one more reason vista is sheit

hehehe...hiding again capin' crunch?
How's that cardboard space ship coming along?
Bout ready for launch...LOL!
Frank
 
V

vista na na - na na nia

the mistake you are making is that you are not bashing vista about this,


tell me did this EVER happen on ANY of your XP machines? Hmmmmmmmmm???


Vista stinks
 
T

tiredoldman

Nope,,none..thanks tho.

Peter Foldes said:
Just a stupid question. Are you using a Registry Cleaning tool by any chance and which one.

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
 
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tiredoldman

Thanks Carey,,nice to see a MVP in here. Yes, I am aware of that trick to get
the screen up for that.
But, the thing is,, I've activated it already,, And even got the thank you
for activating message from Microsoft.
Not just the time I did the OEM after getting it home,,but, even after it
goofed up and I got the other Keys from WGA support... I just don't know WHY
I am having to jump thru all these hoops to use my Vista Computer?? I think
it's a pain. lol. As for those comments by a few others,,IF you want to do MS
Bashing,,try somewhere else..I want some answers and your NOT helping.
Anyways,,it seems like everytime I do the auto updates,,this happens,, I've
stoped the auto updates and the timeframe between Invalidations lasts as long
as I don't use the update service...once I use the service,,it says I'm
illegal again. What gives ??
 
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Chuck

Perhaps the validation servers are overloaded?
I've seen similar problems occurring on a system with Vista ultimate (Key
and CD directly from MS no less!)
Occasionally, the system will call for in depth val/ver, which may fail, and
then drop into the infamous you may be
using a pirated copy warnings.

It's also certainly possible that the updates are causing problems in the
registry that in turn cause validation & "genuine windows" problems.
 
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tiredoldman

Yes, I feel that SOMETHING about the WGA used durring the update process is
the root of this problem,I have called in to WGA and gotten the Keys for
validation,and all taken care care,,UNTIL I use the update service, then this
dang thing goes bonkers. It accepts all the keys UNTIL I use Update, then
same thing happens again. lol.. This is very annoying. I just want to use my
computer without all this hassle !! There is no need to have their legal
customers go thru this BS !!!
 
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NoStop

Carey said:
Restart your computer two (2) times. You should then see the activation
screen after these reboots and be able to activate the machine by entering
your genuine Windows Vista Product Key.
Afterward, visit http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/ and click on
Validate Windows, then restart your computer again.

What Microsoft says about the issue:

"This is Trusted Store tamper due to checkpoint mismatch.
While not sure why the system ended up in that state but the
information in Trusted Store files is not in sync with the one
in registry. So, Trusted Store was recreated, which means that
product key and any other information stored in trusted store
was erased. The user should see activation screen after a couple
of reboots and should be able to activate the machine by entering
the product key."
What a pathetic "operating system"!

Cheers.

--
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http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/
 
C

Charlie Tame

tiredoldman said:
Thanks Carey,,nice to see a MVP in here. Yes, I am aware of that trick to get
the screen up for that.
But, the thing is,, I've activated it already,, And even got the thank you
for activating message from Microsoft.
Not just the time I did the OEM after getting it home,,but, even after it
goofed up and I got the other Keys from WGA support... I just don't know WHY
I am having to jump thru all these hoops to use my Vista Computer?? I think
it's a pain. lol. As for those comments by a few others,,IF you want to do MS
Bashing,,try somewhere else..I want some answers and your NOT helping.
Anyways,,it seems like everytime I do the auto updates,,this happens,, I've
stoped the auto updates and the timeframe between Invalidations lasts as long
as I don't use the update service...once I use the service,,it says I'm
illegal again. What gives ??

Your real name is Tom right? :)

Anyway, joking aside, is there any particular update that keeps showing
up such as a driver for some device. Do you use anything like a
removable drive, flash drive or anything that could possibly change the
"Hash" of the hardware that WGA is seeing?

Is there something dumb the manufacturer has placed on there?

Have you got some security program like Norton, McAfee or a firewall of
some kind?

My guess would be that something is making look like the computer is
changing, so WGA thinks you have (just for example) copied your hard
drive and installed it on different hardware in an attempt to steal a
copy... can you think of anything at all that may make it look like a
different machine after other updates.

If you can reinstall check what updates go on there for hardware and or
try disabling all security stuff the makers put on it.

WGA is a really poor idea backed up by flawed programming and the
reality that what it seeks to achieve is inherently impossible, but I
don;t think WGA is doing this alone, it has an equally obnoxious p
partner in crime in your case.

This "Could" also mean faulty hardware by the way, so that it appears to
the system to be changing even if it isn't physically, a bad memory
stick even.

Any chance of getting a replacement?
 
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Charlie Tame

NoStop said:
What a pathetic "operating system"!

Cheers.


Windows Genuine Aggravation...

Probably a suitable partner for Windows Product Abandonment...

They kinda work together.
 
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The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Charlie said:
Windows Genuine Aggravation...

Probably a suitable partner for Windows Product Abandonment...

They kinda work together.

Well said Charlie! It's hilarious, but true.

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Not Me

Pathetic is a little strong, poorley designed and with little forethought is
more like it.
They knew what they wanted to create and did so; no matter how much negative
feedback they got from testers.
Every time someone complained, they made it more babyish & made the nanny
more irritating.
Unless you've never used a Windows based machine before, you'll say WTF
everytime you try to perform a routine task.

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