I am quite comfortable editing the Registry, just don't know ALL there
is
about it and was uncertain about those two particular entries.
However, since my reinstall and avoidance of the two prospective
culprits,
Explorer has behaved itself w/o further incident. The degree of testing
I've
put it thru allows me to be 99% convinced that these Context Handler
entries
in the Registry were indeed the source of these troubles, so thanks to
you,
Ramesh, and (at least one of) these two programs, I've learned a little
more
about it!
Thank you both.
:
Hi,
If you're not comfortable, use method 2 in the link provided by
Ramesh.
This
is a safe procedure that should help you isolate it.
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help -
www.rickrogers.org
Thank you both Rick and Ramesh, between your posts I think I've
found
my
particular culprit(s). But I believe in being thourough and
complete,
so
first...(*NOTHING* personal here, but, It's been said that
A1) a B.S. degree=Bull S***
A2) an M.S. degree=More of the Same
A3) a PhD =Piled High and Deep in it
B) It has also been said that folks with PhD's learn more and more
about
less and less such that they "know" EVERYTHING about *nothing*
C) In life I've learned (finally) that I have a dHp (reverse PhD) in
that:
I've learned more and more that I "know" less and less such that I
now
"know"
nothing about everything.
Ergo...
Rick: Not knowing as much as I'd like about the Registry, what
follows
'looks' OK to me (with *?1 exception and ??1 question, which I hope
you'll
respond to), but gave me terrific leads to follow up on. Heres whats
in
my
registry:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\
OpenWithList........[ab](Default) REG_SZ
Excel.exe.......[ab](Default) REG_SZ
IExplore.exe....[ab](Default) REG_SZ
MSPaint.exe.....[ab](Default) REG_SZ
Notepad.exe.....[ab](Default) REG_SZ (value not set)
Winword.exe.....[ab](Default) REG_SZ
WordPad.exe.....[ab](Default) REG_SZ
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shellex\
ContextMenuHandlers...............................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
(Value not set)
{a2a9545d-a0c2-42b4-9708-a0b2badd77c8}........[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
Start Menu Pin
AVG7 Shell Extension......................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
{9F97547E-4609-42C5-AE0C-81C61FFAEBC3}
Offline Files.............................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
{750fdf0e-2a26-11d1-a3ea-080036587f03}
Open With.................................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
{09799AFB-AD67-11d1-ABCD-00C04FC30936}
Open With EncryptionMenu..................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
{A470F8CF-A1E8-4f65-8335-227475AA5C46}
WinImp....................................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
{85BE0A20-EE7A-11D1-A49A-444553540000}
PropertySheetHandlers.........................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
(Value not set)
{1F2E5C40-9550-11CE-99D2-00AA006E086C}....[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
(Value not set)
{3EA48300-8CF6-101B-84FB-666CCB9BCD32}....[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
(Value not set)
{883373C3-BF89-11D1-BE35-080036B11A03}....[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
Summary Properties Page
CryptoSignMenu............................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
{7444C719-39BF-11D1-8CD9-00C04FC29D45}
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\Background\
shellex....................[ab](Default) REG_SZ (Value not
set)
ContextMenuHandlers....[ab](Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)
InCDMenu...........[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{950FF917-7A57-46BC-8017-59D9BF474000}
New................[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{D969A300-E7FF-11d0-A93B-00A0C90F2719}
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\
shell..............[ab](Default) REG_SZ none
Cmd............[ab](Default) REG_SZ Open Command Window
Here
Command....[ab](Default) REG_SZ cmd.exe /k "cd %L"
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shellex\
ContextMenuHandlers....[ab](Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)
Encryption Menu....[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{A470F8CF-A1E8-4f65-8335-227475AA5C46}
Offline files......[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{750fdf0e-2a26-11d1-a3ea-080036587f03}
Sharing............[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{f81e9010-6ea4-11ce-a7ff-00aa003ca9f6}
WinImp.............[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{85BE0A20-EE7A-11D1-A49A-444553540000}
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\
shell..............[ab](Default) REG_SZ none
Cmd............[ab](Default) REG_SZ Open Command
Window
Here
Command....[ab](Default) REG_SZ cmd.exe /k "cd
%L"
find...........[ab](Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)
[bi]SuppressionPolicy REG_DWORD 0x00000080
(128)
command....[ab](Default) REG_SZ
%SystemRoot%\Explorer.exe
ddeexec....[ab](Default) REG_SZ
[FindFolder("%l",
%I)]
[ab]NoActivateHandler REG_SZ
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shellex\
ContextMenuHandlers...........................[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
(Value
not set)
*?1 {59099400-57FF-11CE-BD94-0020AF85B590}....[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
(Value
not set)
??1 {fbeb8a05-beee-4442-804e-409d6c4515e9}....[ab](Default)
REG_SZ
InCDMenu..................................{950FF917-7A57-46BC-8017-59D9BF474000}
Offline
Files.............................{750fdf0e-2a26-11d1-a3ea-080036587f03}
Sharing...................................{f81e9010-6ea4-11ce-a7ff-00aa003ca9f6}
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
}*?1 this _seems_ strange that a "Disk Copy Extension" handler is
necessary
to itemize (unless a disk Object varies from other/lesser
object-types...?)
more info:
Key Name:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{59099400-57FF-11CE-BD94-0020AF85B590}
Class Name: <NO CLASS>
Last Write Time: 1/24/2005 - 10:04 AM
Value 0
Name: <NO NAME>
Type: REG_SZ
Data: Disk Copy Extension
Key Name:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{59099400-57FF-11CE-BD94-0020AF85B590}\InProcServer32
Class Name: <NO CLASS>
Last Write Time: 1/24/2005 - 10:04 AM
Value 0
Name: <NO NAME>
Type: REG_SZ
Data: diskcopy.dll
Value 1
Name: ThreadingModel
Type: REG_SZ
Data: Apartment
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
??1 I am uncertain whether this entry is part of XP itself (since it
now
has
built-in burning capabilities), or the CD-burning SW I have
installed
(Nero)
Key Name:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{fbeb8a05-beee-4442-804e-409d6c4515e9}
Class Name: <NO CLASS>
Last Write Time: 1/24/2005 - 6:13 PM
Value 0
Name: <NO NAME>
Type: REG_SZ
Data: ShellFolder for CD Burning
Key Name:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{fbeb8a05-beee-4442-804e-409d6c4515e9}\InProcServer32
Class Name: <NO CLASS>
Last Write Time: 1/24/2005 - 6:13 PM
Value 0
Name: <NO NAME>
Type: REG_EXPAND_SZ
Data: %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll
Value 1
Name: ThreadingModel
Type: REG_SZ
Data: Apartment
Key Name:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{fbeb8a05-beee-4442-804e-409d6c4515e9}\MergedFolder
Class Name: <NO CLASS>
Last Write Time: 1/24/2005 - 6:13 PM
Value 0
Name: Attributes
Type: REG_SZ
Data: 0x0
Value 1
Name: AttributeMask
Type: REG_SZ
Data: 0xffffffff
Value 2
Name: Location
Type: REG_SZ
Data: @shell32.dll,-12589
Value 3
Name: ConflictOverlayIcon
Type: REG_EXPAND_SZ
Data: %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll,-232
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\
shell...................[ab](Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)
explore.............[ab](Default) REG_SZ (Value not
set)
[bi]BrowserFlags REG_DWORD 0x00000022
(34)
[bi]ExplorerFlags REG_DWORD 0x00000021
(33)
command.........[ab]REG_EXPAND_SZ
%SystemRoot%\Explorer.exe
/e,/idlist,%I,%L
ddeexec.........[ab](Default) REG_SZ
[ExploreFolder("%l", %I, %S)]
application.....[ab](Default) REG_SZ Folders
ifexec........[ab](Default) REG_SZ []
topic.........[ab](Default) REG_SZ
AppProperties
open............[ab](Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)
[bi]BrowserFlags REG_DWORD 0x00000010
(16)
[bi]ExplorerFlags REG_DWORD 0x00000012
(18)
command.......[ab]REG_EXPAND_SZ
%SystemRoot%\Explorer.exe
/idlist,%I,%L
ddeexec.......[ab](Default) REG_SZ
[ViewFolder("%l",
%I, %S)]
[ab]NoActivateHandler REG_SZ
application.[ab](Default) REG_SZ Folders
ifexec......[ab](Default) REG_SZ []
topic.......[ab](Default) REG_SZ
AppProperties
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shellex\
ContextMenuHandlers.....[ab](Default) REG_SZ
AVG7 Shell Extension..[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{9F97547E-4609-42C5-AE0C-81C61FFAEBC3}
SpySweeper............[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{7C9D5882-CB4A-4090-96C8-430BFE8B795B}
WinImp................[ab](Default) REG_SZ
{85BE0A20-EE7A-11D1-A49A-444553540000}
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My observations are that AVG7 (AVG Free anti-virus by Grisoft),
WinImp
(a
file compression/archifing tool) and InCD (a component of Nero
CD-burning
SW)
all appear to be possible candidates. All three are relatively new
to
me
and
installed at about the same time. However, I think that the primary
candidate
is WinImp because it is NOT showing up in ShellExView but certainly
exists
in
Context Menus (ergo the handler(s) must be somewhere). And after
having
uninstalled WinImp the errant rt-click-become-toast behavior has not
recurred
(although not enough time/rt-click events have occurred for me to be
comfortable in RELYing on the problem as being resolved, Explorer
has
gone
much longer than usual w/o self-destructing).
I wouldn't think that Nero w/b the culprit as it is a too
well-known,
established and cared-for appln, and therefore would expect more
similar
episodes of what I've encountered be found on my web researches of
this
problem.
Pretty much the same as in re: AVG, but I am going to hold off on
using
it
a
bit until I can more gradually integrate it into the environment.
Your comments?
Ramesh!
Thanks not only for the article, but for showing me a *valuable*
new(-to-me)
resource for researching XP woes. Most GRATEFULLY Appreciative!!!
I'm off now to re-install XP (for the above and a few other reasons)
and
will be much more sensitive to newly added programs. Will post a
followup
when I get back up.
Cheers!
:
Danor,
Right-click is slow or weird behavior caused by context menu
handlers:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/slowrightclick.htm
--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org
I have been troubleshooting this situation for weeks w/o any
success.
If
anyone HAS encountered this and knows an answer, pls post it!
Often, when rt-clicking an object or attempting to delete an
active
object,
Explorer will just hang there for 5-7 seconds or so trying to
open
up
the
Context/Confirmation window (as is appropriate for what I
clicked/pressed),
but eventually fails with the Dr. Watson reporting tool. For the
longest
time
the details of the reporting process kept stating that MS did not
know
why
the error occurred but urged me to upgrade to SP2. So finally I
gave
in
and
did so. But the problem persists.
I have also tried to accomplish my file management tasks using My
Computer
and Internet Explorer GUIs, but they also exhibit the same
behavior.
This does not affect all objects (but does seem to affect all
object-TYPES).
And, surprisingly, an object previously affected will sometimes
"right"
itself and later Explorer will work properly with it. Usually
this
will
be
noticed subsequent to some kind of adjustment (usually
permissions
resetting,
or ownership change) to an object above it in the tree, but by no
means
always. Sometimes I can change ownerships on a different volume
and
go
back
to a previosuly errant object and it will then behave properly,
on
occasion...8o() but no consistency has been identified.
This situation is known to NOT be correctable by any kind of
reboot.
Sometimes I can move an affeceted object to another location, and
then
succesfully perform the Rt-click or deletion process, and then
again
sometimes not. In those NOT occasions I have tried moving the
parent
folder,
and then sometimes _that_ will succeed, others not.
I have Scandisk/CHKDSK/NortonDiskDoctor/Spinrite 'd all disks so
many
times
I am certain by now that each one of these programs is on a
first-name-basis
with each and every byte on my disks, but no errors are being
detected
or,
sadly, repaired (if they even exist, which I do not believe the
troubles
are
in the files, disks or directories, but within Explorer or a
sub-component...)
If anyone can tell me how I can "reinstall/restore" Explorer.exe
(with
all
of its sub-parts, which I don't know), please post that!
What I am also interested in some assistance with is how or
where-can-I-go
to get documentation on what Windows components (like .dll's,
etc.)
are
ingredients of Explorer.exe, IExplore.exe and
whatever-it-is-that-drives-MyComputer.exe (although I suspect
that
it
is
still Explorer.exe or the root prog Explore.exe).
My present idea is to research these subcomponents and find what
common
pieces there are among/between them and see if any
patch/upgrade/other
SW
install has inadvertantly stepped on them which is causing this
behavior
in
Explorer.
Any MS-MVP's that can help me with finding this documentation out
there?
I've tried TechNet searching for several hours the last two days
to
no
avail... I could sure use some assistance in wihich direction to
head.
Thanks!
--
Patience is a virtue...
which one exercises only when needed. Therefore: practice every
chance
you
get....
Computers will give you a LOT of practice!