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Since I switched from static IP on client, the client will disappearsworkgroup computers on both PC's after 15 minutes. The only way it that it
stays there is with static IP. The message in event manager on client says
that "the browser service failed to retrieve the backup list too many times
on transport \Device\NeBT-Tcpip (long string of letters and numbers here).
The backup browser is stopping."<<<<
x. That means the browser can not get thru the net from either side.
The host is the Master browser (in this case) and keeps the list. I. E. He
sees just himself and so the Client is dropped. The Client should be able to
see himself. If this is being dropped, that may indicate the net name is old
and when he can't get the list he doesn't have a net / link name.
still access the Internet from both PC's.<<<<
This contradicts what you said about the client being dropped? J
connection from the client I get a cannot find server message, but if I hit
refresh the page appears and it is fine after that. <<<
x. This would be normal operation, the web page times out before the dialing
and DCHP gets the IP, a refresh would then get out to the ISP.
do is browse network from either PC because only the host PC shows up after
15 minutes.<<<
x. back to missing client, again. Browser can't get through. Net not
complete, Wizard, ICS.
running network wizard was that it could not read the DNS server list from
the registry as well as that the connection type could not be determined
message if I just click on Internet Explorer on host instead of dialing
manually.<<<<
X1. The DSN list would not be available to IE while dialing, until after the
DHCP to the ISP. I don't know of a DSN list in the REG, that is usually part
of the connect info under Support TAB, show details?
X2. The connection TYPE event message is the DSS (discovery) trying to
determine the best and lowest cost net path (you could uncheck it in the NIC
properties.)
This is occurring because you are using NETBIOS over TCP/IP and DSS can't
see the embedded packet of NETBIOS inside the TCP/IP packet)
that says a program was running in Usernv when I logged off. I tried using
a profile program from MS to see what was not closing and it is one of the
svchost files.<<<
This is usually at shutdown. Your user account wants to save the reg but
some other program is still using part of it. Something that runs at start
up and stays up having to do with the user account. I get them and ignore
them.
but I did not log in because I did not have a hotmail account and my email
account is from local ISP and not MSN so I can't use it there so I had to
setup my hotmail account first. The passport screen did not come up again
on host until I selected the sign in button on MSN.<<<
X Sounds right.
having any shared account pop up. None of them popup to sign in--they are
just on the login screen--the same as with the Pro version. I click on the
name and put in the password. If I click on the guest account there is no
screen to put in a password. I do see what you are talking about on the Pro
PC under account management though.<<<
x. It means the guest account is alive and well on both machines, but
without a password to keep out hackers. Add a complex password on a rainy
day sometime.
and turned on on host PC since the article said to turn this off only on
client. I did turn it back on yesterday to see if it would make any
difference and instead of having Messenger pop up on client when the client
first autodials when I first start up client PC--Messenger pops up on host
and logs in there.
I guess I could try uninstalling ICS with LAN turned on on client, but I
have tried that before on one of my many previous XP reinstalls. I have
been messing with this since January.<<<
x. This could be why the client is having troubles?
If the connection didn't say to get the ip and DSN automatically, then the
DHCPClient and DSNCLient software on the client PC may not be running and or
the ICS gateway may not have set up a DHCP / DSN server, which sure sounds
like what is happening.
x. You can always run the Netwizard on both machines again, with the
autodect setting on. (be connected to the ISP , too.)
X. That is only a port opened for output for MSN Messaenger to use SOCKS.
Shouldn't affect anything.
No, lol. You're just short of my running configuration.
page when I installed it because it was not automatically checked by the
install. I am still using the default home page which starts with
/isap/redir.dll?-prd=ie&over=6..... Both PC's have same home page which is
default so I don't know if that makes any difference.<<<
x. You can have any home page you want. J
x. Good
2000 on the client that said there was a problem with SSL on host. When I
checked outlook, the encryption was not 128bit so I ran an update on
client, but did not get a successfully installed message even though it now
says 128bit.<<<
X. Sounds like it is ok now. Be sure to update OFF2000 to SP3.
as the settings that they use are different than the ones the host PC is
actually using. I have no idea on how to put that in or where. Right now
my dial up connection is set to obtain everything automatically.<<<
x. Trust you actual connection as documentation may be old.
Call the ISP and ask about it.
Hope it works out for you,
It will work out, it's just a tweek away.
SJ
stays there is with static IP. The message in event manager on client says
that "the browser service failed to retrieve the backup list too many times
on transport \Device\NeBT-Tcpip (long string of letters and numbers here).
The backup browser is stopping."<<<<
x. That means the browser can not get thru the net from either side.
The host is the Master browser (in this case) and keeps the list. I. E. He
sees just himself and so the Client is dropped. The Client should be able to
see himself. If this is being dropped, that may indicate the net name is old
and when he can't get the list he doesn't have a net / link name.
still access the Internet from both PC's.<<<<
This contradicts what you said about the client being dropped? J
connection from the client I get a cannot find server message, but if I hit
refresh the page appears and it is fine after that. <<<
x. This would be normal operation, the web page times out before the dialing
and DCHP gets the IP, a refresh would then get out to the ISP.
do is browse network from either PC because only the host PC shows up after
15 minutes.<<<
x. back to missing client, again. Browser can't get through. Net not
complete, Wizard, ICS.
running network wizard was that it could not read the DNS server list from
the registry as well as that the connection type could not be determined
message if I just click on Internet Explorer on host instead of dialing
manually.<<<<
X1. The DSN list would not be available to IE while dialing, until after the
DHCP to the ISP. I don't know of a DSN list in the REG, that is usually part
of the connect info under Support TAB, show details?
X2. The connection TYPE event message is the DSS (discovery) trying to
determine the best and lowest cost net path (you could uncheck it in the NIC
properties.)
This is occurring because you are using NETBIOS over TCP/IP and DSS can't
see the embedded packet of NETBIOS inside the TCP/IP packet)
that says a program was running in Usernv when I logged off. I tried using
a profile program from MS to see what was not closing and it is one of the
svchost files.<<<
This is usually at shutdown. Your user account wants to save the reg but
some other program is still using part of it. Something that runs at start
up and stays up having to do with the user account. I get them and ignore
them.
but I did not log in because I did not have a hotmail account and my email
account is from local ISP and not MSN so I can't use it there so I had to
setup my hotmail account first. The passport screen did not come up again
on host until I selected the sign in button on MSN.<<<
X Sounds right.
having any shared account pop up. None of them popup to sign in--they are
just on the login screen--the same as with the Pro version. I click on the
name and put in the password. If I click on the guest account there is no
screen to put in a password. I do see what you are talking about on the Pro
PC under account management though.<<<
x. It means the guest account is alive and well on both machines, but
without a password to keep out hackers. Add a complex password on a rainy
day sometime.
and turned on on host PC since the article said to turn this off only on
client. I did turn it back on yesterday to see if it would make any
difference and instead of having Messenger pop up on client when the client
first autodials when I first start up client PC--Messenger pops up on host
and logs in there.
I guess I could try uninstalling ICS with LAN turned on on client, but I
have tried that before on one of my many previous XP reinstalls. I have
been messing with this since January.<<<
x. This could be why the client is having troubles?
If the connection didn't say to get the ip and DSN automatically, then the
DHCPClient and DSNCLient software on the client PC may not be running and or
the ICS gateway may not have set up a DHCP / DSN server, which sure sounds
like what is happening.
x. You can always run the Netwizard on both machines again, with the
autodect setting on. (be connected to the ISP , too.)
X. That is only a port opened for output for MSN Messaenger to use SOCKS.
Shouldn't affect anything.
No, lol. You're just short of my running configuration.
page when I installed it because it was not automatically checked by the
install. I am still using the default home page which starts with
/isap/redir.dll?-prd=ie&over=6..... Both PC's have same home page which is
default so I don't know if that makes any difference.<<<
x. You can have any home page you want. J
x. Good
2000 on the client that said there was a problem with SSL on host. When I
checked outlook, the encryption was not 128bit so I ran an update on
client, but did not get a successfully installed message even though it now
says 128bit.<<<
X. Sounds like it is ok now. Be sure to update OFF2000 to SP3.
as the settings that they use are different than the ones the host PC is
actually using. I have no idea on how to put that in or where. Right now
my dial up connection is set to obtain everything automatically.<<<
x. Trust you actual connection as documentation may be old.
Call the ISP and ask about it.
Hope it works out for you,
It will work out, it's just a tweek away.
SJ