Windows boot mgr

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I have many partitions on my computer. I have 98se installed and win2k
pro. I have a boot mgr that I use but the windows boot mgr still wants
to run also. This has caused no problems except another choice durring
boot up. What must I do to get rid of the windows mgr. Thanks
 
Not an operating system issue. You'll want to ask the developer of the third
party application.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
Microsoft Certified Professional [Windows 2000]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect.


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| I have many partitions on my computer. I have 98se installed and win2k
| pro. I have a boot mgr that I use but the windows boot mgr still wants
| to run also. This has caused no problems except another choice durring
| boot up. What must I do to get rid of the windows mgr. Thanks
 
I am going to have to respectfully disagree. It is the MICROSOFT
BOOTMANAGER that installed itself and that I want to turn off. I may be
forced to let microsoft modify the OS's that they are "allowing" me to
use but I have to put my foot down when it comes to what partition
tables get loaded before MS fires up. I sure could use a non Microsoft
approved response here please.
 
So in other words if someone develops an application that hooks a Microsoft
product then it is Microsoft's responsibility to adjust their product to
make the third party application work. OK now I get it.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
Microsoft Certified Professional [Windows 2000]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect.


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| I am going to have to respectfully disagree. It is the MICROSOFT
| BOOTMANAGER that installed itself and that I want to turn off. I may be
| forced to let microsoft modify the OS's that they are "allowing" me to
| use but I have to put my foot down when it comes to what partition
| tables get loaded before MS fires up. I sure could use a non Microsoft
| approved response here please.
 
I suspect that your 3rd party boot manager is pointing to the boot.ini
file created when you first installed W98 and W2k. You'll need to change
the way these 2 boot management functions interrelate. For useful advice
you need to post more info about which 3rd party BM you're using,
whether it's installed on its own small partition, and exactly where the
2 op systems reside (on the same partition or not.) Be useful too to
explain the order in which and exactly how you installed the BM and the
2 systems. And the reasons you want the 3rd party BM; is it to ensure
physical isolation of the 2 op sys from each other? (In other words, do
you want the unbooted system's partition "hidden" when you boot the
other, so it's truly inaccessible?)
 
So in other words if someone develops an application that hooks a
Microsoft product then it is Microsoft's responsibility to adjust
their product to make the third party application work. OK now I get
it.
Click to expand...

I said respectfully. I have come here looking for info and advice so
that I could make my own adjustments to my computer. I am afraid that
you still don't get it. I installed several copies of 98se (now
abandoned by MS) and used my own boot manager with no problems. I then
installed 2k and the ms boot manager took over the partition. Yes
something on that 2k disk changed the configuration of my system, so yes
I believe that it is a MS responsibility. Am I asking MS to fix it? No!
I am attempting to fix it myself with the assistance of the people that
are hear to assist. I suggest if my style of computing affects you in
such a negitive you might want to plonk me so I exist no more to you.

I would like to thank those here that have attempted to assist me. I
will post the information requested asap.
 
You're reading more into this than there is. Your 'style of computing' is of
no concern what-so-ever to me.

FYI some background info;
When you dualboot Win9x and Windows 2000; Windows 2000 creates a file named
bootsect.dos; if you select an operating system other than Windows 2000,
NTLDR loads bootsect.dos and passes control to it. The operating system then
starts up as normal, because bootsect.dos contains the boot sector that was
on the primary partition before you installed Windows 2000

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
Microsoft Certified Professional [Windows 2000]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect.


| I said respectfully. I have come here looking for info and advice so
| that I could make my own adjustments to my computer. I am afraid that
| you still don't get it. I installed several copies of 98se (now
| abandoned by MS) and used my own boot manager with no problems. I then
| installed 2k and the ms boot manager took over the partition. Yes
| something on that 2k disk changed the configuration of my system, so yes
| I believe that it is a MS responsibility. Am I asking MS to fix it? No!
| I am attempting to fix it myself with the assistance of the people that
| are hear to assist. I suggest if my style of computing affects you in
| such a negitive you might want to plonk me so I exist no more to you.
|
| I would like to thank those here that have attempted to assist me. I
| will post the information requested asap.
 
I said respectfully. I have come here looking for info and advice so
that I could make my own adjustments to my computer. I am afraid that
you still don't get it. I installed several copies of 98se (now
abandoned by MS) and used my own boot manager with no problems. I then
installed 2k and the ms boot manager took over the partition. Yes
something on that 2k disk changed the configuration of my system, so yes
I believe that it is a MS responsibility. Am I asking MS to fix it? No!
I am attempting to fix it myself with the assistance of the people that
are hear to assist. I suggest if my style of computing affects you in
such a negitive you might want to plonk me so I exist no more to you.

I would like to thank those here that have attempted to assist me. I
will post the information requested asap.
Click to expand...

Windows 2000 boot manager works the same as most, it puts code in the
MBR that starts the load process. I do not know what boot manager you
used but if it has setup function to rewrite the MBR then that should
make it work again. Then if nothing else you can use a boot floppy to
start Windows 2000.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;119467

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
 
3rd party BM - BootitNG by terabyte
It picked its own install site. I did not create a partition for it.
My copies of 98se are installed on hidden partitions. When one is active
the other is hidden and vic a versa.
The 2000 pro is on a logical extended NTNS partition.
I am using BootitNG because of a corruption of the MBR and or Fat that I
was unable to recover from. I was using Partition Magic and moving
partitions around and resizing them like there was no tomorrow and one day
when I booted 2k it didn't boot and suggested that I run chkdsk with a
switch that I do not remember. When I did that there was no tomorrow and no
disk. I couldnt even fdisk or format it. I was able to recover some data
and just bought a new drive and reinstalled and purchased Bootit. I don't
think it is a good idea to move partitions and resize them if the formats
are different, lol. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

I still have the drive I replaced and think that it would be ok if I knew
how and had the proper utility to wipe the whole thing. It is an IBM
Deskstar. I really have not had time to mess with that but if anyone has a
suggestion on the drive I would be happy to listen.
 
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