Window blocked startup programs

[Tim]

When I start Vista, I always get a popup that says Windows blocked some
startup programs. When I go into Windows Defender to find out what is
being blocked, I get the list of programs loaded at startup, and each is
either designated "Permitted" or "Not yet classified." Even the "Not yet
classified" programs are being loaded. So how do I find out which ones
Windows is blocking?

 

[Dave]

Have you used msconfig to stop some programs?
I have, and that's what causes the message, not Defender.

 

[Anthony Wieser]

There's a menu item on the icon that lets you start blocked programs.

It was msconfig in my case as well, which I used to turn off a bunch of junk
that came bundled with my Dell.

Anthony Wieser
Wieser Software Ltd

 

[Rock]

When I start Vista, I always get a popup that says Windows blocked some
startup programs. When I go into Windows Defender to find out what is
being blocked, I get the list of programs loaded at startup, and each is
either designated "Permitted" or "Not yet classified." Even the "Not yet
classified" programs are being loaded. So how do I find out which ones
Windows is blocking?

Click on the icon on the notification area and select the option to have it
display the blocked program(s) so you can give it permission to run. Any
program that runs at startup that either needs admin privileges or for which
you marked it as Run as Administrator will be blocked at startup until you
give permission.

So you need to ask yourself, first do you need that program to run at
startup? If so does it have to have admin privileges? Is there an update
for it that allows it to run without admin privileges? Is there another
program that will do the trick that doesn't need admin privileges.

This happens with msconfig when you make a change in it and then reboot.

 

[Tim]

Yes, it was apparently msconfig that is causing this. Since I don't need to
be notified every bootup of this condition, how do I turn off the popup?

 

[Rock]

Yes, it was apparently msconfig that is causing this. Since I don't need
to be notified every bootup of this condition, how do I turn off the
popup?

Just like you did in XP when it popped up with the one added step. First
unblock it so it can. Do this by an option from clicking on the icon in the
notification area. Then when msconfig comes up check the box to not have it
display. It won't until the next time you make changes with msconfig and
reboot.

 

[Tim]

No, that's doesn't solve the problem. I have always checked the box to not
have msconfig display after I have made changes. But I still get the popup
box saying Windows blocked some startup programs.

 

[mikeyhsd]

it is MSCONFIG causing the problem most likely.
using MSCONFIG to block startup program is not the best way.
you should try to use the OPTIONS/PROPERTIES of the individual programs to prevent them from loading with windows.




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No, that's doesn't solve the problem. I have always checked the box to not
have msconfig display after I have made changes. But I still get the popup
box saying Windows blocked some startup programs.

 

[Rock]

No, that's doesn't solve the problem. I have always checked the box to
not have msconfig display after I have made changes. But I still get the
popup box saying Windows blocked some startup programs.

So you're saying it's more than just msconfig? Any program that runs at
startup requesting admin privileges or which you specify to run that way by
checking the Run as Administrator box will be blocked until you give it
permission. You click the icon in the notification area, and unblock it
from there.

You need to ask some questions. Why does this program need admin
privileges? Does it has to have them? If not then uncheck run as
administrator. If it needs admin privileges, why? Is there an update for
it that doesn't need them? Is there a different program to use in place of
it that's properly coded for Vista? Does it have to run at startup?

Also see this link for one way to deal with this issue.
http://blog.gerke-preussner.de/inde...cking-Elevated-Startup-Programs-in-Vista.html

 

[Guest]

Have you been into msconfig ? type msconfig in search click on the file look
in start
up programes make sure they are all checked.

 

[LoneStar]

I think the main issue at this point is not the blocked startup programs but getting rid of the notification that lives in the notification area, forever.

EW

it is MSCONFIG causing the problem most likely.
using MSCONFIG to block startup program is not the best way.
you should try to use the OPTIONS/PROPERTIES of the individual programs to prevent them from loading with windows.




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No, that's doesn't solve the problem. I have always checked the box to not
have msconfig display after I have made changes. But I still get the popup
box saying Windows blocked some startup programs.

 

[LoneStar]

Just like you did in XP when it popped up with the one added step. First
unblock it so it can. Do this by an option from clicking on the icon in
the notification area. Then when msconfig comes up check the box to not
have it display. It won't until the next time you make changes with
msconfig and reboot.

I have the same situation. Your solution does no good and I've tried
(almost) everything to keep the pop-up from appearing and staying in the
notification area: right clicking, msconfig, etc. Or perhaps I don't get
exactly what you're saying.

Of course, I didn't have this notification after I first got my new Vista
computer, but after I disabled several garbage entries in msconfig, the
notification about "some items have been blocked..." keeps coming back every
bootup and stays during the entire up-time.

Nevertheless, Vista is excellent!

EW

 

[LoneStar]

So you're saying it's more than just msconfig? Any program that runs at
startup requesting admin privileges or which you specify to run that way
by checking the Run as Administrator box will be blocked until you give it
permission. You click the icon in the notification area, and unblock it
from there.

SNIP.................

You're a valuable MVP, but.................. The question/issue is THE POPUP
NOTIFICATION THAT APPEARS EVERY BOOTUP, not the actual blocked programs!
Many of us are asking how to keep the notification from appearing always --
we don't need it to remind us of which programs we blocked from starting.

Maybe we're not being clear enough. We simply want the notification to
stop!

Thanks.

 

[mikeyhsd]

then I believe you need to cure the problem that is causing the NOTIFICATION.



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So you're saying it's more than just msconfig? Any program that runs at
startup requesting admin privileges or which you specify to run that way
by checking the Run as Administrator box will be blocked until you give it
permission. You click the icon in the notification area, and unblock it
from there.

SNIP.................

You're a valuable MVP, but.................. The question/issue is THE POPUP
NOTIFICATION THAT APPEARS EVERY BOOTUP, not the actual blocked programs!
Many of us are asking how to keep the notification from appearing always --
we don't need it to remind us of which programs we blocked from starting.

Maybe we're not being clear enough. We simply want the notification to
stop!

Thanks.

 

[LoneStar]

Great. Thanks..... It's not a "problem," it's a feature. And others and I are asking for the "cure."

then I believe you need to cure the problem that is causing the NOTIFICATION.



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So you're saying it's more than just msconfig? Any program that runs at
startup requesting admin privileges or which you specify to run that way
by checking the Run as Administrator box will be blocked until you give it
permission. You click the icon in the notification area, and unblock it
from there.

SNIP.................

You're a valuable MVP, but.................. The question/issue is THE POPUP
NOTIFICATION THAT APPEARS EVERY BOOTUP, not the actual blocked programs!
Many of us are asking how to keep the notification from appearing always --
we don't need it to remind us of which programs we blocked from starting.

Maybe we're not being clear enough. We simply want the notification to
stop!

Thanks.

 

[Rock]

SNIP.................

You're a valuable MVP, but.................. The question/issue is THE
POPUP NOTIFICATION THAT APPEARS EVERY BOOTUP, not the actual blocked
programs! Many of us are asking how to keep the notification from
appearing always -- we don't need it to remind us of which programs we
blocked from starting.

Maybe we're not being clear enough. We simply want the notification to
stop!

Sigh, if a program running at startup, either through one of the run keys in
the registry or the Startup folder, requests admin privileges then it will
need permission. There is no way around it. This is to ensure that you
intended it to run with admin privileges. Personally I would strongly
question why a program needs to run at startup that needs admin privileges.

In any event here is a link to one work around using scheduled tasks.

http://blog.gerke-preussner.de/inde...cking-Elevated-Startup-Programs-in-Vista.html

 

[Tim]

All of this discussion and still no real answer. Apparently, we must live
with this popup box indefinitely, or unless Microsoft ultimately fixes the
issue. As for your recommendation to remove programs that require admin
privileges at startup, my problem is that Windows Defender does not identify
which programs those are! According to it, all programs are either
permitted or not yet classified - none are being blocked. So, how do I
actually do what you're recommending?

 

[Rock]

All of this discussion and still no real answer. Apparently, we must live
with this popup box indefinitely, or unless Microsoft ultimately fixes the
issue. As for your recommendation to remove programs that require admin
privileges at startup, my problem is that Windows Defender does not
identify which programs those are! According to it, all programs are
either permitted or not yet classified - none are being blocked. So, how
do I actually do what you're recommending?

When the icon appears in the notification area you click on it, and pint to
the run blocked program option to see what program(s) was blocked and give
it permission to run if you want.

Error message when you reach the Windows Vista Desktop: "Windows has blocked
some startup programs"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367/en-us

I also posted a workaround in the post to which you replied.

 

[LoneStar]

When the icon appears in the notification area you click on it, and pint
to the run blocked program option to see what program(s) was blocked and
give it permission to run if you want.

Error message when you reach the Windows Vista Desktop: "Windows has
blocked some startup programs"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367/en-us

I also posted a workaround in the post to which you replied.

Rock.......... thanks for the info and the link. However, I don't think Tim
and I are being understood at all. The problem IS the NOTIFICATION ICON,
nothing else. We don't need or want it popping up continuously, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. As Tim said, we'll just have to live
with this indefinitely, or until someone really understands the question.

If you really want to see what we're talking about, uncheck some of your
startup items using msconfig. The next time you boot up, you'll see this
stupid notification which really means nothing!

Anyway, thanks Rock for your help. Keep up the fine work.

EW

 

[mikeyhsd]

in you example of using msconfig to disable some startup items is what causes the icon.
why, probably because msconfig requires uac approval to run.
try running msconfig using the RUN box and see.

it is one of the defects in UAC to not have a method to permanently allow programs to run.
it was apparently impossible for ms programmers to tell the difference in keyboard command and programmed command.

the solution is simple, do not use MSCONFIG for a permanent solution to startup program control.



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When the icon appears in the notification area you click on it, and pint
to the run blocked program option to see what program(s) was blocked and
give it permission to run if you want.

Error message when you reach the Windows Vista Desktop: "Windows has
blocked some startup programs"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367/en-us

I also posted a workaround in the post to which you replied.

Rock.......... thanks for the info and the link. However, I don't think Tim
and I are being understood at all. The problem IS the NOTIFICATION ICON,
nothing else. We don't need or want it popping up continuously, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. As Tim said, we'll just have to live
with this indefinitely, or until someone really understands the question.

If you really want to see what we're talking about, uncheck some of your
startup items using msconfig. The next time you boot up, you'll see this
stupid notification which really means nothing!

Anyway, thanks Rock for your help. Keep up the fine work.

EW