Will WindozeUpdate still function for XP after April?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

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I dont really believe this, but I do believe the other story I heard.
On April 8, Bill Gates is going to go to every home and business in
America, and format the hard drive of anyone using XP. ...

OK by me - I'm not in America ... (-:

He'll do America on April 8, Europe on April 9, and so on..... He'll
get you too......

Ah, a sort of dark-side-of-Santa-Claus (-:?

(Actually, from what little I've seen of him these last few years, I
quite like BG.)

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <[email protected]>,

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:57:15 -0600, "Bill in Co"


The main thing I DONT like about XP is all the useless clutter. I set
it to Classic mode, yet when I click on any drive letter in My Computer,
I get all this crap on the left like Tasks, Folders, whatever. I dont

1. Click the "folders" button in your toolbar (the row of icons below
"File Edit ...") to turn the left pane back to a tree view. If you don't
have a folders button, right-click in an empty part of the toolbar,
choose Customise, and add it.

2. Make shortcuts with target lines like
%windir%\explorer.exe /e, D:\
- this will always open (D:\ in this case) with the tree pane on the
left.

3. When given a choice, always choose "Explore" rather than "Open". (You
aren't always offered the choice.)
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It's just like the software I use, most of it goes back to the late 90s
and early 00s. For example, Paint Shop Pro. I like version 3.x best.
That's really old. The new vers load real slow because they install all
sorts of extra stuff, and are too complicated to use. And I'm quite
good at graphic editing, given a SIMPLE program.

I know someone who still uses CorelDraw 3. I used to use Paint Shop Pro
for its clone brush feature, and always used an earlier version - either
5 or 6, I can't remember - only using 6 (or 7) on the rare occasions
when I had an image too big for the earlier version to open. But since
IrfanView gained a clone brush (as part of the Paint toolbox that was
added so quietly that it was some IV editions before I realised it was
there!), I haven't opened PSP for years (not even sure I've got it on
here).2

 

[casey.o]

1. Click the "folders" button in your toolbar (the row of icons below
"File Edit ...") to turn the left pane back to a tree view. If you don't
have a folders button, right-click in an empty part of the toolbar,
choose Customise, and add it.

2. Make shortcuts with target lines like
%windir%\explorer.exe /e, D:\
- this will always open (D:\ in this case) with the tree pane on the
left.

3. When given a choice, always choose "Explore" rather than "Open". (You
aren't always offered the choice.)
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Thanks - This does work, but what I really want to do is completely
remove that left part. Again, it's just more screen clutter. I'm used
to just seeing the RIGHT PANE (list of files and folders), when I am
using Win98. And for that matter, my other XP computer does not view
this way, (which has a Fat32 format). Is this a NTFS specific view?

I know someone who still uses CorelDraw 3. I used to use Paint Shop Pro
for its clone brush feature, and always used an earlier version - either
5 or 6, I can't remember - only using 6 (or 7) on the rare occasions
when I had an image too big for the earlier version to open. But since
IrfanView gained a clone brush (as part of the Paint toolbox that was
added so quietly that it was some IV editions before I realised it was
there!), I haven't opened PSP for years (not even sure I've got it on
here).
2

I remember Corel Draw, I had it installed on Windows 3. I neevr used it
much, even back then I liked PSP.

I never knew IrfanView was a picture editor. I thought it was just a
picture viewer.

For viewing, I'm still using AcdSee 2.x which came out about the same
time Win98 did. I'm still running the same installation of Win98 that I
installed in 98 or 99, so much of the software is the same. If it
works, I dont upgrade. I do recall trying a newer version and remember
the newer versions are bloated and take too long to load.

 

[Bob F]

I've read a new post somewhere in Windows XP newsgroup a few months
ago. One Windows 2000 user said that the auto update server is still
working.

Even if the Windows XP auto update server has stopped working, you
can still do a manual update. Microsoft already provide a DVD ISO
that contains security updates up until March 11th 2014.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086

Newer updates if any, won't be that many and troublesome for manual
downloads.

It appears to me looking at that site that the ISO only contains the updates
released that month. Do you know otherwise?

 

[Good Guy]

Even if the Windows XP auto update server has stopped working, you can still
do a manual update. Microsoft already provide a DVD ISO that contains
security updates up until March 11th 2014.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086

Newer updates if any, won't be that many and troublesome for manual
downloads.

You mean to say ISOs for monthly updates. They are not cumulative so
you need to download all the ISOs since SP3 was released.

If anybody continues to insist using XP then updates are of no relevance
because any time after May 2014, the XP machines would be a weak-link
anyway because no new updates would be released for it.

 

[XP Guy]

any time after May 2014 the XP machines would be a weak-link
anyway because no new updates would be released for it.

Aside from being tricked into clicking on a spam attachment and running
trojan-dropper code, it's probably been the case for a few years now
that the average home and soho XP system is hacked via a vulnerability
in some Adobe product (flash or acrobat) or a vulnerability in the
browser (Firefox, chrome, etc).

For XP users that use primarily IE, then yes, WindozeUpdate fixes for IE
are useful.

But for XP users that don't touch IE but use some other browser, then
it's not likely that any Windozeupdates to come down the pipe over the
last couple of years has actually patched a vulnerability that would
have been of any benefit to that system.

In other words, IE patches aside, WindozeUpdates for XP is largely
irrelavent and has been for the past 2 or 3 years, because the typical
home/soho system is hacked either by running a malicious spam attachment
or through a weakness in a Mozilla or Adobe product.

 

[XP Guy]

In other words, IE patches aside, WindozeUpdates for XP is largely
irrelavent and has been for the past 2 or 3 years, because the typical
home/soho system is hacked either by running a malicious spam attachment
or through a weakness in a Mozilla or Adobe product.

Add Sun (Oriface) Java to that relatively short list.