Will Windows Aero user interface work on my PC ?

[Joe Ogiba]

I have a 3000+ AMD Barton XP with 1.5GB DDR333, ATI AIW 9800 Pro 128mb
graphic card and plan on putting Vista on a WD 150GB Raptor SATA HD. Is
dual-channel memory required for Aero ?

Joe

 

[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

Yes, but you have ensure that your card has a supported WDDM (Windows Driver
Display Model) with support for Direct X 9, with support for Shader 2.0
Pixel technologies. Dual Channel memory is not required.

But, for systems that use shared memory on integrated graphics chipsets, 1
GB of dual channel configured system memory (RAM) is required. The system
system needs to have at least 512 MB of RAM Available for general system
activities after graphics processing. You don't need to worry about this
though.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/entpquid.mspx
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[Key Pounder]

Joe Ogiba wrote:
| I have a 3000+ AMD Barton XP with 1.5GB DDR333, ATI AIW 9800 Pro 128mb
| graphic card and plan on putting Vista on a WD 150GB Raptor SATA HD. Is
| dual-channel memory required for Aero ?
|
| Joe

ATI claims somewhere that all ATI cards 9500 and up will support the Aero
effects. Here my ATI 9250 doesn't, but my 9600se does. The Aero effects so
far don't count for much. There's a slight translucency on the windows
frames, a neat little WindowsKey + Tab which outdoes alt + tab .. but which
is not significantly more useful than the XP Power Toy Alt + Tab replacement
... and that's about it so far .. even Microsft isn't bothering with Areo in
the standard edition of Windows Vista so it can't be that important.

 

[Paul Smith]

I have a 3000+ AMD Barton XP with 1.5GB DDR333, ATI AIW 9800 Pro 128mb
graphic card and plan on putting Vista on a WD 150GB Raptor SATA HD.

It's certainly with in the specs. I'm considering installing the next drop
of Vista on a machine with similar specs and the same graphics card this
coming week - time will tell.

Is dual-channel memory required for Aero ?

No. Running on my current machine Athlon 64 3200, w/ 2GB of PC3200 (single
channel, this is a Socket 754 board) and a Radeon 850XT PE great.

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[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

Windows Vista Home Basic will use Aero Basic, you won't get certain effects
though such as Live Thumbnail previews and the translucent window effects.
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[Zack Whittaker]

You do have to be careful with drivers however. Ati is different from Nvidia
I know, but updating my drivers to the correct LDDM drivers for my version
of Vista screwed up the Aero Glass and removed the LDDM drivers.

Make sure there are compatible LDDM drivers as Andre said - should be OK
after that. Check out this though:

Minimum requirements for Aero Glass:
http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/minimumreqglass

WinSAT Ratings explained:
http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/performance/performancerating

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[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

Actually, its "Windows Device Driver Model" now.
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[Joe Ogiba]

Thanks guys, the reason I asked about the dual channel memory requirements
is it said the following on Dells website:" To run the Windows Vista Aero
experience, Microsoft recommends: a.. A system with a dual core or Pentium -
class processor
b.. A minimum of 1GB or more of Dual Channel memory (two or more
memory modules) or 512 MB of system memory PLUS a premium graphics card such
as ATI or NVIDIA
c.. A more fully featured system which can provide a richer
experience"
d..
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/solutions/en/vista_pcs?c=us&l=en&s=gen

 

[Joe Ogiba]

From ATI:
Product series supported:
a.. Radeon® 9500, 9550, 9600, 9650, 9700, 9800, X300, X600, X700, X800,
X850
b.. Radeon® X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900 series
c.. MobilityT Radeon® 9550, 9600, 9700, 9800, X300, X600, X700, X800
d.. MobilityT Radeon® X1300, X1400, X1600, X1800
e.. Radeon® Xpress 200, 200M
f.. FireGLT V7350, V7300, V7100, V5100, V5000, V3200, V3100
g.. MobilityT FireGL® V5200, V5000, V3200, V3100
h.. FireMVT 2200 PCIE, FireMVT 2400 PCIE
i..
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=19933

 

[David Candy]

Recommend is not minimun.

 

[Zack Whittaker]

Is that "Vista Ready Graphics Cards" or cards which are compatible with the
latest drivers? )

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[Zack Whittaker]

Ooohh that makes sense. Funny that, I was thinking earlier on in the shower
(strange I know) the difference between LDDM and WDDM and what WDDM actually
stood for... but that makes much more sense!

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[Joe Ogiba]

It's Catalyst Beta Driver for Windows Vista Build 5308





Feedback:
a.. ATI Usability Feedback: This is your opportunity to provide us
with feedback that will help improve software and driver usability


ATI is one of the first graphic providers to make a 64-bit driver that
supports the Longhorn Display Driver Model (LDDM) - the Microsoft Vista
revolutionary graphic driver standard - as well as the first to provide LDDM
drivers for integrated graphics processors. By making LDDM drivers available
more than a full year prior to Windows Vista release, ATI provides
developers with a stable, feature-enabled and performance-optimized platform
for application development. ATI is also the first to provide Catalyst®
Windows Vista driver feedback via our Catalyst® Crew Feedback program.

Instructions:
a.. For detailed instructions on how to install this driver, please
visit - "How to install Catalyst beta driver for Windows Vista build 5308"

 

[- Bobb -]

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Yes, but you have ensure that your card has a supported WDDM (Windows
Driver Display Model) with support for Direct X 9, with support for
Shader 2.0 Pixel technologies. Dual Channel memory is not required.

But, for systems that use shared memory on integrated graphics
chipsets, 1 GB of dual channel configured system memory (RAM) is
required. The system system needs to have at least 512 MB of RAM
Available for general system activities after graphics processing. You
don't need to worry about this though.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/entpquid.mspx

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[Jane Colman]

Try this one

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/entpguid.mspx

 

[Peter]

Try the upgrade advisor tool:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeadvisor/default.mspx

 

[Guest]

Hello all.
At one point, I saw Aero listed. And I was able to enable glass and change
from Smoke to all the other options available. Now it's not there.
Next to my video card, it says WDDM.
Anyone have any ideas?

Thank you.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Some programs disable Glass while they are running. Close all programs and
see if Glass returns.

 

[Guest]

Yes sir, I do believe it worked.
Thanks.

I'm really liking Vista.
Thank you for the help.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

You're welcome.

btw, it was not the program that closed Glass but Glass detected a program
that might cause problems and suspended itself.