Will w8 have xp downgrade rights?

[Todd]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone heard any rumors on weather or not M$ will
continue with its XP downgrade rights when Windows 8 comes out?

-T

 

[David H. Lipman]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone heard any rumors on weather or not M$ will
continue with its XP downgrade rights when Windows 8 comes out?

-T

XP is on its death bed. I doubt it.

 

[Todd]

XP is on its death bed. I doubt it.

I still get a fair number of requests for it on customer systems.

 

[Todd]

I still get a fair number of requests for it on customer systems.

Woops, "customer" should have been "custom"

 

[James D Andrews]

Todd snuck on to your hard drive to scribble:

Hi Guys,

Has anyone heard any rumors on weather or not M$ will
continue with its XP downgrade rights when Windows 8 comes out?

-T

Probably not.
MS has ceased XP support. Besides, it's not part of their plan to turn
our computers into oversize cell phones.
Personally, I think they should keep XP and scrap Vista.

--
-There are some who call me...
Jim


"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

 

[philo]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone heard any rumors on weather or not M$ will
continue with its XP downgrade rights when Windows 8 comes out?

-T

Nope

if they had any downgrade rights at all, it would only be back one version.

BTW: I did try out the test version of Win8 and it very well may turn
out to be a good OS

 

[Todd]

Nope

if they had any downgrade rights at all, it would only be back one version.

BTW: I did try out the test version of Win8 and it very well may turn
out to be a good OS

I so hope so.

 

[philo]

I so hope so.

I am testing out the 32bit version on a dual core AMD-3800 with three
gigs of RAM. I guess that's a fairly low end machine now.
It is definitely not a resource hog .

Of course by the time it's in it's final version...that may change.
It looks like it has a lot of features that would be useful for a touch
screen monitor. Since I don't have such a monitor, many of it's features
are of no use to me

 

[N. Miller]

Personally, I think they should keep XP and scrap Vista.

Haven't they already scrapped Vista? Seems they are currently trying to push
people to Windows 7.

 

[David H. Lipman]

Haven't they already scrapped Vista? Seems they are currently trying to push
people to Windows 7.

Its funny but parts of the US Gov't only got on the Vista Pro for the Enterprise band
wagon starting in Jan. '11. Already they are looking at replacing it Win7 Pro for the
Enterprise. Compare that to the life Win2K and WinXP had on the Enterprise.

 

[Todd]

I am testing out the 32bit version on a dual core AMD-3800 with three
gigs of RAM. I guess that's a fairly low end machine now.
It is definitely not a resource hog .

Of course by the time it's in it's final version...that may change.
It looks like it has a lot of features that would be useful for a touch
screen monitor. Since I don't have such a monitor, many of it's features
are of no use to me

Were you using a touch screen monitor and your fingers (W8-iPad
edition) or with a normal monitor and mouse?

 

[James D Andrews]

N. Miller banged his head on his keyboard to write :

Haven't they already scrapped Vista? Seems they are currently trying to push
people to Windows 7.

I think they're still providing support, but not really sure and not
worth checking since it was only meant to be a snicker comment anyway).
Sorry about that.

--
-There are some who call me...
Jim


It's a dangerous business, going out your door. You step onto the road,
and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be
swept off to.
-Samwise Gamgee quoting Bilbo Baggins, edited

 

[James D Andrews]

philo banged his head on his keyboard to write :

I am testing out the 32bit version on a dual core AMD-3800 with three gigs of
RAM. I guess that's a fairly low end machine now.
It is definitely not a resource hog .

Of course by the time it's in it's final version...that may change.
It looks like it has a lot of features that would be useful for a touch
screen monitor. Since I don't have such a monitor, many of it's features are
of no use to me

I can't speak of other features, but for me the whole Aero-touch screen
push goes along with the usual MS philosophy expecting all users have
to go out and buy all new everything every couple of years.

--
-There are some who call me...
Jim


"What do you mean?" he said. "Do you wish me a good morning, or mean
that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; or that you feel
good this morning; or that it is a morning to be good on?"
-Gandalf, after Bilbo Baggins says "Good Morning"

 

[Mayayana]

| Has anyone heard any rumors on weather or not M$ will
| continue with its XP downgrade rights when Windows 8 comes out?
|

That's an interesting question. The fact that MS had to
offer a "downgrade" option is a reminder, to me, that all
bets are off in terms of where their business will go in the
future.

MS is primarily a monopoly maintenance
corporation. They will end support for XP whenever they
can get away with it. (It doesn't even matter if there are
still 200M customers willing to pay for support. This is not
your father's Sears store.) They will force the purchase
of their new product in any way they can. Beyond that,
who can say? MS seems to be doing very well with their
Linux protection racket. Maybe if the Metro Shopping GUI
is a flop they'll get behind Linux Desktops. Why not, if they
could get the same cut per PC?

But cheer up. It could be worse. You could have been
"saved" by The Church of Apple, with their chilling motto:
"All your experience are belong to us".

 

[N. Miller]

They will force the purchase of their new product in any way they can.

Wouldn't Henry Ford have loved it if he had to continue support for the
Model T into the 21st Century!

 

[Mayayana]

| > They will end support for XP whenever they
| > can get away with it. (It doesn't even matter if there are
| > still 200M customers willing to pay for support....
| > They will force the purchase of their new product in any way they can.
|
| Wouldn't Henry Ford have loved it if he had to continue support for the
| Model T into the 21st Century!
|

If 200 million people were still driving Model Ts?
Why not? I don't think the car companies are losing
money by selling grossly overpriced replacement
parts.

So I guess your point is that they might
make *more* money by discontinuing those parts,
so that people have to buy a new car? And why
shouldn't they, right? Free markets are best, and
all that good stuff? Presumably you'd be
happy to be forced into buying new cars based
on product output rather than on your need.
Fortunately for the rest of us, car companies have
competition and want to develop brand loyalty.

 

[Todd]

Wouldn't Henry Ford have loved it if he had to continue support for the
Model T into the 21st Century!

You make an interesting point. I think it falls down when you
consider that if Ford had a demand for Model T support, they
certainly would be meeting it. There is still a demand for XP.
M$ is ignoring the demand.

Also, consider why Ford is not selling Model T's or parts any more.
it is because they came up with something better that the consumer
went for. Since XP, has M$'s offerings been better, faster, simpler,
more compatible than XP? The answer to that question is why
there is still a demand for XP.

Ford is more than pleased to sell consumers anything the consumer
demands and as long as they can provide it. M$ doesn't care.

 

[boatman312]

You make an interesting point. I think it falls down when you
consider that if Ford had a demand for Model T support, they
certainly would be meeting it. There is still a demand for XP.
M$ is ignoring the demand.

Also, consider why Ford is not selling Model T's or parts any more.
it is because they came up with something better that the consumer
went for. Since XP, has M$'s offerings been better, faster, simpler,
more compatible than XP? The answer to that question is why
there is still a demand for XP.

Were you asleep during Vista's reign?

W7 has only brought the system back to XP's usefulness (with twice the
hardware system requirements).

 

[Todd]

Were you asleep during Vista's reign?

Oh crap. I had a good mental block going until you reminded me. Now
I am remembering. My head hurts. You did this to me! I had blocked
it out! (To those with no sense of humor, I am joking.)

W7 has only brought the system back to XP's usefulness (with twice the
hardware system requirements).

And half the speed, ten times the instability, and older non-M$'s
programs still don't work. But, a 100 fold improvement over Vista.

 

[N. Miller]

You make an interesting point. I think it falls down when you
consider that if Ford had a demand for Model T support, they
certainly would be meeting it. There is still a demand for XP.
M$ is ignoring the demand.

Well, having worked for Hewlett Packard, I know that they had a projected
product support life. Of course, hardware has a problem. I worked on one
product for which the original source of one particular part stopped
manufacturing the component. Guessing HP was their sole customer, and the
cost of production exceeded the revenue generated by sales.

So, hardware changes over time. My HP Pavilion 6745C runs Windows XP Home
Edition poorly; slow as molasses in January. But it only has 256 MB of RAM,
and anything under 512 MB of RAM is woefully inadequate. Cost of upgrading
to 512 MB is excessive; and the computer is incapable of supporting more.

OTOH, my HP Pavilion m7590n shipped as, "Windows Vista ready". Given how
little difference there is between Windows Vista and Windows 7, upgrading to
Windows 7 went well. But I expect this hardware will be deficient for
Windows 8. I already had to replace one hardware component because of
obsolescence, and wonder if continuous hardware upgrades will be worth it in
the end.

The later versions of Windows are designed to take advantage of newer
hardware capabilities. Computers are relatively cheap, compared with prices
twenty years ago.

The reason the Model T is no longer built, or even supported, is hardware
upgrades. I don't see how that is different for computers.