Will ATI make new AIW cards?


R

ryinmail

Somewhere I heard that ATI disconnect AIW product line. That could be
wrong. Anyone knows?

I wish to see a new AIW with better and newer TV functions, such the
ones their new TV tuner cards have.
 
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A

ANTant

Somewhere I heard that ATI disconnect AIW product line. That could be
wrong. Anyone knows?

I thought that was official.

I wish to see a new AIW with better and newer TV functions, such the
ones their new TV tuner cards have.

A HDTV version would be nice. I had a 9800 Pro AIW. I loved the card,
but hated its crappy software (MMC).
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B

Barry Watzman

The AIW line was discontinued, but there has been "noise" ...
unconfirmed ... that at some point in the future the line might see some
new products. Nothing firm from ATI either way as far as I know.
 
J

J. Clarke

Barry said:
The AIW line was discontinued, but there has been "noise" ...
unconfirmed ... that at some point in the future the line might see
some new products. Nothing firm from ATI either way as far as I
know.

Personally I finally gave up on the AIWs--they look better on paper
than they ever worked in reality. Separate tuner does fine and if I
need to upgrade I can do one without messing up the setup on the
other. Besides, there seems to be much better third-party support for
non-ATI encoder chips.
 
R

Reza

Le Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:29:57 -0500, "J. Clarke"
Personally I finally gave up on the AIWs--they look better on paper
than they ever worked in reality. Separate tuner does fine and if I
need to upgrade I can do one without messing up the setup on the
other. Besides, there seems to be much better third-party support for
non-ATI encoder chips.


--
Hi all,

My thoughts are ATI mustn't stop their mmc improvements in 2008.
Well, it sometimes takes a while to set it the way it must, at first
aiw 7500 then aiw 9800 BIG TIMES !
HASN'T THE AIW AND MMC STILL A GOOD SPELL NOWADAYS ?
Think about it ATI-AMD ! Give your customers the choice in a new
mmc-based graphics !
 
C

Chuck U. Farley

Personally I finally gave up on the AIWs--they look better on paper
than they ever worked in reality. Separate tuner does fine and if I
need to upgrade I can do one without messing up the setup on the
other. Besides, there seems to be much better third-party support for
non-ATI encoder chips.

I'm still happily plugging along with my 9600 AIW, which is _still_
getting driver updates after lo these many years. Unlike most, I never
felt tied to the MMC s/w, using it only to capture uncompressed avi
files, which I then encoded in whatever format I wanted with ProCoder.

I have never been a fan of h/w based encoding, especially those cheap
ass Hauppage cards. I'll take a dual pass VBR encode from ProCoder
over a h/w based encode from an algorithm that's over five years
old... any day of the week.

I'm sure the current ATI stand alone cards are an improvement over the
Hauppage pos but it's hard for me to believe any h/w based encode is
gonna be _better_ than a dual pass s/w encode from a quality vendor.

Other than a 9 year old Dell P133c that's still running and serving as
a home file server, my 9600 AIW is the best bang for the buck piece of
h/w I've ever owned, and I've owned a _bunch_ of h/w.
 
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J. Clarke

Chuck said:
I'm still happily plugging along with my 9600 AIW, which is _still_
getting driver updates after lo these many years. Unlike most, I
never
felt tied to the MMC s/w, using it only to capture uncompressed avi
files, which I then encoded in whatever format I wanted with
ProCoder.

I have never been a fan of h/w based encoding, especially those
cheap
ass Hauppage cards. I'll take a dual pass VBR encode from ProCoder
over a h/w based encode from an algorithm that's over five years
old... any day of the week.

I'm sure the current ATI stand alone cards are an improvement over
the
Hauppage pos but it's hard for me to believe any h/w based encode is
gonna be _better_ than a dual pass s/w encode from a quality vendor.

Other than a 9 year old Dell P133c that's still running and serving
as
a home file server, my 9600 AIW is the best bang for the buck piece
of
h/w I've ever owned, and I've owned a _bunch_ of h/w.

Are you using this for video production or do you really do all that
work just to time shift?
 
J

J. Clarke

Le Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:29:57 -0500, "J. Clarke"
Hi all,

My thoughts are ATI mustn't stop their mmc improvements in 2008.
Well, it sometimes takes a while to set it the way it must, at first
aiw 7500 then aiw 9800 BIG TIMES !
HASN'T THE AIW AND MMC STILL A GOOD SPELL NOWADAYS ?
Think about it ATI-AMD ! Give your customers the choice in a new
mmc-based graphics !

Why would anybody looking for a multimedia recording device buy
something that's going to stop working in a couple of years?
 
G

GMAN

Why would anybody looking for a multimedia recording device buy
something that's going to stop working in a couple of years?
We are wanting them to release an AIW with an ATSC tuner built in. Not analog.
 
A

ANTant

We are wanting them to release an AIW with an ATSC tuner built in. Not analog.

Ditto.
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C

Chuck U. Farley

Are you using this for video production or do you really do all that
work just to time shift?

Video. My Dish PVR takes care of the timeshifting duties.

Started outusing the AIW for converting VHS tapes to DVD, then 9/11
and the 2004 elections got me into video for the web. See here:

http://www.onworldsedge.com/21452.html

Warning, if you're part of the 23% who still thinks, "You're doing a
heck of a job, Bushie" you might find these videos somewhat
disconcerting. For a less political slant, see here:

http://www.onworldsedge.com/New York Minute BB.wmv

..

Glad you're still around and posting in here, kinda keeps the "flame"
alive. <g>
 
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J. Clarke

Chuck said:
Video. My Dish PVR takes care of the timeshifting duties.

Started outusing the AIW for converting VHS tapes to DVD, then 9/11
and the 2004 elections got me into video for the web.

Transcribing to DVD I can see where you'd want to do everything you
could to minimize generation loss. Video for the web though, not sure
you'd see the difference.
See here:

http://www.onworldsedge.com/21452.html

Warning, if you're part of the 23% who still thinks, "You're doing a
heck of a job, Bushie" you might find these videos somewhat
disconcerting. For a less political slant, see here:

http://www.onworldsedge.com/New York Minute BB.wmv

Bush is an idiot who won, barely, against a tree followed by a fellow
idiot. I'd have voted for just about any of the current candidates on
either side against Bush but where in the Hell were they when we
needed them?

He's doing a lousy job but at this point there's not much to be done
about it other than gut it out--even if he could be removed from
office do you really think Cheney would be an improvement? Anybody
who wants to beat me over the head with it can sod off.
 
C

Chuck U. Farley

Bush is an idiot who won, barely, against a tree followed by a fellow
idiot. I'd have voted for just about any of the current candidates on
either side against Bush but where in the Hell were they when we
needed them?

Agree, wholeheartedly. And to think, a blow job from an intern is
ultimately responsible for Bush being President. How sad and pathetic
is that?

Regardless of who is elected in 2008, I take comfort _knowing_ whoever
it is, could not _possibly_ be worse than Bush... even Hillary. <vbg>
 
J

J. Clarke

Chuck said:
Agree, wholeheartedly. And to think, a blow job from an intern is
ultimately responsible for Bush being President. How sad and
pathetic
is that?

How do you figure that? Clinton leaving office was the result of his
completing the two successive terms allowed by law, BJs didn't have
anything to do with it. I've never seen any suggestion of
improprieties of that kind from Gore.

Personally I voted against Gore because I never really got a handle on
what kind of guy he was, Bush is your basic good old boy. Not the
best choice for President but at least one has an idea what he's going
to do.
Regardless of who is elected in 2008, I take comfort _knowing_
whoever
it is, could not _possibly_ be worse than Bush... even Hillary.
<vbg>

Actually, as a lifelong Republican, I may end up voting for
Hillary--she's your basic hard-assed bitch and I respect that.
 
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Chuck U. Farley

How do you figure that? Clinton leaving office was the result of his
completing the two successive terms allowed by law, BJs didn't have
anything to do with it. I've never seen any suggestion of
improprieties of that kind from Gore.

Last OT post for me:

My logic is pretty simple. If not for the BJ and the subsequent
impeachment, the 2000 election would have been a won by Gore. I don't
think anyone could dispute that.
Personally I voted against Gore because I never really got a handle on
what kind of guy he was, Bush is your basic good old boy. Not the
best choice for President but at least one has an idea what he's going
to do.

Unfortunately, his ideas of what to do, from the economy to the war,
were just plain wrong. One quick example, go here:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

which is the US Debt To The Penny and plug in 1/21/2000 and 9/31/07.

You'll see that when he took office, the amount of debt was 5.7
trillion. As of this September, it was 9 trillion. Now this is actual
government debt, not budget deficits, but real money we owe... mainly
to China, Japan, and Saudi Arabia.

So, it took our government 224 _years_ to accumulate the same amount
of debt that President Bush will have accumlated in only _8_ years.

And it's not just the war.

Take away _all_ the spending on the war and Homeland Security and he
has still expanded the size of government more than any president
since LBJ. Add in the war and he even beats FDR.
Actually, as a lifelong Republican, I may end up voting for
Hillary--she's your basic hard-assed bitch and I respect that.

What a bizzaro world. I've been a lifelong Democrat (except for Carter
II and Dukakis) and I'm supporting a Republican, Ron Paul.

Maybe he really was a "uniter" after all. <vbg>

Glad we can disagree without being disagreeable. That seems to be in
short supply these days. Take care.
 
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