Why is activation necessary -- it is invasive!!!

[Guest]

I am building a system. I am now on my third activation.

Microsoft is invasive -- period. Activation is required for instances
having nothing to do with the Vista operating system or my use under license
agreement.

I added a hard disk drive and formatted it -- this was another drive and on
a second SATA controller (in addition to my drive holding my system files
[Windows Vista] located on a primary SATA controller). I later removed the
formattted drive from my computer. This triggered a second activation and
one that permitted only a 3-day grace period. A re-activation which could
only be done by phone (to India). This reguirement for activation had
nothing to do with VISTA or Microsoft's license. This is MY hardware.
Microsoft is trespassing on my property.

I added hard drives (a 4-drive system) and built two RAID arrays, "1" & "0"
(two drives each). These RAID arrays share the same primary SATA controller.
The RAID "1" array includes the system volume and files (Windows Vista). A
third activation was now required by Microsoft. Although this instance of
re-activation could be accomplished online, why does adding the security of
mirrored drives necessitate re-activation? How is Vista compromised or
Microsoft threatened?

Activation is a sham!!!

I question wheather there are darker purposes here. For example, is
Activation being used to condition the sheep? Is this just another stepping
stone for Microsoft to get all "uses" on single pay? When will we own
absolutely nothing? When will we be paying every time for every use of
software, every time for every single play of a song, a sound clip, or a
video segment? When will the price of a CD or DVD vary according to how many
uses/plays are permitted?

For your own sake, protest Activation.

 

[John Barnes]

You probably wasted more time with your rant than it took to reactivate.

"Taking_back_my_computer"

 

[Alias]

Activation is a sham!!!

Correct. It only inconveniences paying customers and does nothing to
stop piracy.

I question wheather there are darker purposes here.

There are.

For example, is
Activation being used to condition the sheep?

Bingo! This newsgroup is full of them who think that bending over for MS
to take a look see is "normal". And, if you contradict them, they will
insult you and make up lies about you.

Is this just another stepping
stone for Microsoft to get all "uses" on single pay? When will we own
absolutely nothing? When will we be paying every time for every use of
software, every time for every single play of a song, a sound clip, or a
video segment? When will the price of a CD or DVD vary according to how many
uses/plays are permitted?

For your own sake, protest Activation.

I am. I use Ubuntu. You should too. No activation. No WGA. No DRM. No
need for an anti virus program or anti malware programs. Ubuntu comes
with a built-in firewall so if you add a router hard firewall, that's
all you need to do to not worry about the blue meanies. You can install
your copy on as many machines as you like and can copy it and give the
copies to your friends and family.

Not only that, Ubuntu and the over 25,0000 programs that come with it
are FREE! You can download it or order the CD and they will pay the
postage to send you your CD, also for FREE.

Check it out at:

http://www.ubuntu.com/

Alias

 

[Mr. Arnold]

You probably wasted more time with your rant than it took to reactivate.

"Taking_back_my_computer"

I am building a system. I am now on my third activation.

Microsoft is invasive -- period. Activation is required for instances
having nothing to do with the Vista operating system or my use under
license
agreement.

I added a hard disk drive and formatted it -- this was another drive and
on
a second SATA controller (in addition to my drive holding my system files
[Windows Vista] located on a primary SATA controller). I later removed
the
formattted drive from my computer. This triggered a second activation
and
one that permitted only a 3-day grace period. A re-activation which
could
only be done by phone (to India). This reguirement for activation had
nothing to do with VISTA or Microsoft's license. This is MY hardware.
Microsoft is trespassing on my property.

I added hard drives (a 4-drive system) and built two RAID arrays, "1" &
"0"
(two drives each). These RAID arrays share the same primary SATA
controller.
The RAID "1" array includes the system volume and files (Windows Vista).
A
third activation was now required by Microsoft. Although this instance
of
re-activation could be accomplished online, why does adding the security
of
mirrored drives necessitate re-activation? How is Vista compromised or
Microsoft threatened?

Activation is a sham!!!

I question wheather there are darker purposes here. For example, is
Activation being used to condition the sheep? Is this just another
stepping
stone for Microsoft to get all "uses" on single pay? When will we own
absolutely nothing? When will we be paying every time for every use of
software, every time for every single play of a song, a sound clip, or a
video segment? When will the price of a CD or DVD vary according to how
many
uses/plays are permitted?

For your own sake, protest Activation.

 

[Alias]

You probably wasted more time with your rant than it took to reactivate.

Gosh, that was helpful. Why is it that you see nothing wrong with
inconveniencing paying customers with a program that does nothing to
stop piracy? Have you been brainwashed by MS to believe that to be
normal or what?

Alias

"Taking_back_my_computer"

I am building a system. I am now on my third activation.

Microsoft is invasive -- period. Activation is required for instances
having nothing to do with the Vista operating system or my use under
license
agreement.

I added a hard disk drive and formatted it -- this was another drive
and on
a second SATA controller (in addition to my drive holding my system files
[Windows Vista] located on a primary SATA controller). I later
removed the
formattted drive from my computer. This triggered a second activation
and
one that permitted only a 3-day grace period. A re-activation which
could
only be done by phone (to India). This reguirement for activation had
nothing to do with VISTA or Microsoft's license. This is MY hardware.
Microsoft is trespassing on my property.

I added hard drives (a 4-drive system) and built two RAID arrays, "1"
& "0"
(two drives each). These RAID arrays share the same primary SATA
controller.
The RAID "1" array includes the system volume and files (Windows
Vista). A
third activation was now required by Microsoft. Although this
instance of
re-activation could be accomplished online, why does adding the
security of
mirrored drives necessitate re-activation? How is Vista compromised or
Microsoft threatened?

Activation is a sham!!!

I question wheather there are darker purposes here. For example, is
Activation being used to condition the sheep? Is this just another
stepping
stone for Microsoft to get all "uses" on single pay? When will we own
absolutely nothing? When will we be paying every time for every use of
software, every time for every single play of a song, a sound clip, or a
video segment? When will the price of a CD or DVD vary according to
how many
uses/plays are permitted?

For your own sake, protest Activation.

 

[Loopy]

You can thank all of the thieves, neer do wells, and people who think it's
ok to disregard the license agreement and make copies of programs for their
friends and family. Then there are those who think it's OK to install the
program on more than one computer. Microsoft is protecting their property
in the best way they know how and until a better system to do it comes along
activation is going to be a way of life. As for your circumstance, Windows
perceives that it is being installed on a different machine due to hardware
changes and needs to verify that it is not being abused. I've never found
activation to be a problem and it's always done quickly and painlessly. If
it is a real problem for you there are alternative operating systems you can
use.



"Taking_back_my_computer"

 

[Mr. Arnold]

I have notice you posting. I have notice that you post just a little too
much. I think you have some issues in life.

It's just an obsewrvation.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Gosh, that was helpful. Why is it that you see nothing wrong with
inconveniencing paying customers with a program that does nothing to stop
piracy? Have you been brainwashed by MS to believe that to be normal or
what?

What's wrong with you?

 

[Alias]

I have notice you posting.

I'm flattered.

I have notice that you post just a little too
much.

Probably. Everybody needs a hobby.

I think you have some issues in life.

Who doesn't?

It's just an obsewrvation.

Noted.

Alias

 

[Jason Freeman]

I'm not fond of activation, either, but you do have to realize that there
are indeed alternative operating systems available if it bothers you so
severely.

If Microsoft does indeed ever get into the per-use thing, I guess Vista will
be my last operating system from Microsoft. It may be good enough to
stick with for a long, long time, anyway. I don't even see compelling
reasons to upgrade to Vista over XP, to be honest, other than the fact that
Microsoft and its partners seem intent on forcing it to be the standard that
you'll need for new applications to work properly.

Jason


"Taking_back_my_computer"

 

[Alias]

Loopy wrote:

Top posting corrected.

"Taking_back_my_computer"

You can thank all of the thieves, neer do wells, and people who think
it's ok to disregard the license agreement and make copies of programs
for their friends and family. Then there are those who think it's OK to
install the program on more than one computer. Microsoft is protecting
their property in the best way they know how and until a better system
to do it comes along activation is going to be a way of life. As for
your circumstance, Windows perceives that it is being installed on a
different machine due to hardware changes and needs to verify that it is
not being abused. I've never found activation to be a problem and it's
always done quickly and painlessly. If it is a real problem for you
there are alternative operating systems you can use.

Um, activation doesn't stop piracy. It only inconveniences paying
customers like the OP.

First, MS made Windows easy to copy so they could corner the market. Now
that they've cornered the market, they think they can do anything they
want to do with their customers. You believing they are the good guys by
doing this is proof.

Alias

 

[Alias]

What's wrong with you?

Um, we were talking about activation, not me, although your "tactic" to
distract from the issues by trying to change the subject to me is a
common thing in this newsgroup.

Alias

 

[Guest]

Gosh, that was helpful. Why is it that you see nothing wrong with
inconveniencing paying customers with a program that does nothing to
stop piracy? Have you been brainwashed by MS to believe that to be
normal or what?

Poor stupid Alias
Activation certainly does stop piracy, maybe not all but certainly some.
With Activation we won't see you giving a copy to your mommy because she will
freak when MS tells her the OS you installed isn't legal.

I used to know people that bought one copy for windows and then put it on 5
PC's in there home, not any longer.

So Mr. Linux loser why don't you try actually talking about things you know
about and stop making sh*t up?

Activation may not stop China form pirating Vista but it will stop casual
piracy and that is million and millions of copies.

Maybe you could show us all your proof that it "does nothing" to stop
piracy????
Key word there is "NOTHING" as you claim.

Go ahead post your numbers and source that proves it does "nothing".

I've had to activate XP one time in five years and Vista once since I
installed it the day it came out.

I also had a friend that wanted me to load it on his PC Guess what ???? I
couldn't well I could but you know what would happen in 30 days.

The fact that I didn't give him a copy proves right there that it does in
fact stop piracy.

Now go play with your Linux.

Alias

"Taking_back_my_computer"

I am building a system. I am now on my third activation.

Microsoft is invasive -- period. Activation is required for instances
having nothing to do with the Vista operating system or my use under
license
agreement.

I added a hard disk drive and formatted it -- this was another drive
and on
a second SATA controller (in addition to my drive holding my system files
[Windows Vista] located on a primary SATA controller). I later
removed the
formattted drive from my computer. This triggered a second activation
and
one that permitted only a 3-day grace period. A re-activation which
could
only be done by phone (to India). This reguirement for activation had
nothing to do with VISTA or Microsoft's license. This is MY hardware.
Microsoft is trespassing on my property.

I added hard drives (a 4-drive system) and built two RAID arrays, "1"
& "0"
(two drives each). These RAID arrays share the same primary SATA
controller.
The RAID "1" array includes the system volume and files (Windows
Vista). A
third activation was now required by Microsoft. Although this
instance of
re-activation could be accomplished online, why does adding the
security of
mirrored drives necessitate re-activation? How is Vista compromised or
Microsoft threatened?

Activation is a sham!!!

I question wheather there are darker purposes here. For example, is
Activation being used to condition the sheep? Is this just another
stepping
stone for Microsoft to get all "uses" on single pay? When will we own
absolutely nothing? When will we be paying every time for every use of
software, every time for every single play of a song, a sound clip, or a
video segment? When will the price of a CD or DVD vary according to
how many
uses/plays are permitted?

For your own sake, protest Activation.

 

[Frank]

Um, we were talking about activation, not me, although your "tactic" to
distract from the issues by trying to change the subject to me is a
common thing in this newsgroup.

Alias

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Yeah, something you're good at and do all the time.
Take you're linux crap over to the linux ng.
You're not wanted here.
Frank

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Um, we were talking about activation, not me, although your "tactic" to
distract from the issues by trying to change the subject to me is a common
thing in this newsgroup.

Who cares about the rest of this? I just notice you flying up and down the
NG, in some kind of lunatic state of mind.

 

[Alias]

A lie.

Take you're linux crap over to the linux ng.

Can't do it. No "crap" to take.

You're not wanted here.

Another lie.

Alias

 

[Mr. Arnold]

I'm flattered.

You shouldn't be, because if I notice you, you got a problem. You're
slobbering all over these threads.

Probably. Everybody needs a hobby.

You're beyond a hobby. It's more like an addiction.

Who doesn't?

That's the only thing you have said that makes any kind of sense.

Noted.

You should pay attention and keep some kind of dignity.

<bye>

 

[Alias]

Poor stupid Alias
Activation certainly does stop piracy, maybe not all but certainly some.

Only with fools like you, although I am sure that is a large number.

With Activation we won't see you giving a copy to your mommy because she will
freak when MS tells her the OS you installed isn't legal.

So you and your mommy use a cracked version and problem solved.

I used to know people that bought one copy for windows and then put it on 5
PC's in there home, not any longer.

Of course not, now MS has cornered the market. Now people put five
cracked copies on their PCs.

So Mr. Linux loser why don't you try actually talking about things you know
about and stop making sh*t up?

Take your own advice.

Activation may not stop China form pirating Vista but it will stop casual
piracy and that is million and millions of copies.

False. People who would use casual piracy before are now using cracked
copies.

Maybe you could show us all your proof that it "does nothing" to stop
piracy????
Key word there is "NOTHING" as you claim.

OK, I'll agree that it stops people like you and Frank.

Go ahead post your numbers and source that proves it does "nothing".

I've had to activate XP one time in five years and Vista once since I
installed it the day it came out.

I also had a friend that wanted me to load it on his PC Guess what ???? I
couldn't well I could but you know what would happen in 30 days.

The fact that I didn't give him a copy proves right there that it does in
fact stop piracy.

All he had to do is go out and get someone to give him a cracked copy.

Now go play with your Linux.

I work and play with Linux.

Alias

Alias

"Taking_back_my_computer"
I am building a system. I am now on my third activation.

Microsoft is invasive -- period. Activation is required for instances
having nothing to do with the Vista operating system or my use under
license
agreement.

I added a hard disk drive and formatted it -- this was another drive
and on
a second SATA controller (in addition to my drive holding my system files
[Windows Vista] located on a primary SATA controller). I later
removed the
formattted drive from my computer. This triggered a second activation
and
one that permitted only a 3-day grace period. A re-activation which
could
only be done by phone (to India). This reguirement for activation had
nothing to do with VISTA or Microsoft's license. This is MY hardware.
Microsoft is trespassing on my property.

I added hard drives (a 4-drive system) and built two RAID arrays, "1"
& "0"
(two drives each). These RAID arrays share the same primary SATA
controller.
The RAID "1" array includes the system volume and files (Windows
Vista). A
third activation was now required by Microsoft. Although this
instance of
re-activation could be accomplished online, why does adding the
security of
mirrored drives necessitate re-activation? How is Vista compromised or
Microsoft threatened?

Activation is a sham!!!

I question wheather there are darker purposes here. For example, is
Activation being used to condition the sheep? Is this just another
stepping
stone for Microsoft to get all "uses" on single pay? When will we own
absolutely nothing? When will we be paying every time for every use of
software, every time for every single play of a song, a sound clip, or a
video segment? When will the price of a CD or DVD vary according to
how many
uses/plays are permitted?

For your own sake, protest Activation.

 

[Loopy]

I didn't say that activation is good or bad. Neither did I say that I
thought they were good guys. I merely stated that activation is a fact of
life and if you want to use Windows as your operating system then you play
by MS rules. If I didn't like windows or MS then I would simply quit
computing or find a different operating system. I would have no reason to
hang around on a Vista newsgroup trying to convince other people that MS is
evil and proving to the world that I didn't have anything better to do.

 

[Mike]

I didn't say that activation is good or bad. Neither did I say that I
thought they were good guys. I merely stated that activation is a fact of
life and if you want to use Windows as your operating system then you play
by MS rules. If I didn't like windows or MS then I would simply quit
computing or find a different operating system. I would have no reason to
hang around on a Vista newsgroup trying to convince other people that MS is
evil and proving to the world that I didn't have anything better to do.

In case you haven't noticed, Alias is a Linux Loonie Freakazoid who is
so threatened by Windows that he has to hang around Windows newsgroups
in a vain attempt to bash Windows. Just ignore him.

Mike