Why doesn't the style of the text show up on the Ribbon?

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StevenM

I've just begun using Word 2007. My first impression of the Ribbon was very
positive, until I started using it. Some things have taken me a long time to
find. But I guess that is all to be expected when converting to new software.
But I'm slowly catching on, but the one thing which still bothers me about
the Ribbon is that I cannot always know which style my cursor is at simply by
looking at the Ribbon. In earlier version of Word, the main toolbar had a
window for the Style, followed by a window for the Font, followed by a window
for the Font Size. And as one moved the cursor up and down a document, one
could see the name of the style change in the style window. This does not
appear to be true for the Ribbon.

To compensate for that I've usually work with the Styles window open. But it
won't always give the style. I find that somewhat annoying. Does anyone know
a way to force the Ribbon (or even the Styles windos) to state the style
being used at the cursor?

Steven Craig Miller
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

You can add the Style, Font, and Font Size dropdowns to the QAT if desired.
They will work as in previous versions.

Click on the arrow at the end of the QAT and choose More Commands... From
there, it's easiest just to choose All Commands from the outset. Scroll down
to Style (the tooltip is StyleGalleryClassic) and add it. Repeat for the
Font and Font Size buttons that have the dropdown icon.
 
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Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Steven,

In addition to Suzanne's reply, the style in use can show in the Quick Styles set if that gallery is currently visible.

Also you can pop up the Style Inspector, or use either the Reveal Formatting or Styles pane (the Style Inspector is launched from
one of the buttons on the bottom of the Styles Pane) or the 'Apply Styles' pane
(Ctrl+Shift+S)

The Style Inspector doesn't have a keyboard shortcut but you can assign one to the FormattingPaneCurrent command in
Office Button=>Word Options=>Customize=>[Keyboard]

I prefer to add either Style Inspector to the QAT or to toggle it when needed with a keyboard shortcut rather than take up space on
the QAT for the old style toolbar one.

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<<"StevenM" <stevencraigmiller(at)comcast(dot)net> wrote in message I've just begun using Word 2007. My first impression of the Ribbon was very
positive, until I started using it. Some things have taken me a long time to
find. But I guess that is all to be expected when converting to new software.
But I'm slowly catching on, but the one thing which still bothers me about
the Ribbon is that I cannot always know which style my cursor is at simply by
looking at the Ribbon. In earlier version of Word, the main toolbar had a
window for the Style, followed by a window for the Font, followed by a window
for the Font Size. And as one moved the cursor up and down a document, one
could see the name of the style change in the style window. This does not
appear to be true for the Ribbon.

To compensate for that I've usually work with the Styles window open. But it
won't always give the style. I find that somewhat annoying. Does anyone know
a way to force the Ribbon (or even the Styles windos) to state the style
being used at the cursor?

Steven Craig Miller >>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
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StevenM

To: Bob Buckland & Suzanne S. Barnhill,

Thank you both, that is lots of help.

The only other problem I'm having is that Ctrl+Mouse Wheel doesn't change
the zoom. I left a message in "New Users," but didn't receive any answer.
I've seached the web and noticed that others had the same problem, but no one
had a fix. I notice that there are zoom controls at the bottom left corner of
Word 2007, but since Ctrl+Mouse Wheel works in other Microsoft products and
previous versions of Word, I wonder why I can't get it to work with Word
2007. Any ideas?

Steven Craig Miller
 
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Herb Tyson [MVP]

I have the same zooming issue. I do find that if I give the mouse wheel a
good hard spin, it does actually "work", but not predictably.

I've narrowed the problem down in my case to being an issue with Microsoft
mice and the IntelliPoint driver. Ctrl+Zoom wheel on the OEM non-Microsoft
mouse that came with my computer works fine. Might that be an option in your
case?

Unfortunately, I have the 5-button type of mouse, which I've reprogrammed,
and which I rely on extensively in everyday computing. So, I've adapted in
Word 2007 (Outlook 2007 messages have the same issue here) by a) using the
zoom control on the status bar in Word b) also relying upon
keyboard-controlled macros in Word, and c) relying upon QAT-tool controlled
macros in Outlook.
 
S

StevenM

To: Herb Tyson,

Hmm ... you're right, if I give it a hard spin, zooming happens. Off course,
not with such a fine touch that it would be helpful. But Ctrl+Mouse-Wheel
works in other applications, so it is not the fault of the mouse, but of Word
2007. Is it possible they might come up with a fix and someday my mouse will
be able to zoom in Word?

Steven Craig Miller
 
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Herb Tyson [MVP]

Right. It's decidedly a problem with Word (and with Outlook's formatted item
windows, such as for messages and contact notes). While I suppose it's
possible that they'll fix it, I'm not optimistic. I've tried, but haven't
succeeded in getting anyone at Microsoft to replicate the problem yet. Until
they actually see it happening, I'm not optimistic for getting it fixed...
unless it's fixed as a side-effect of their fixing something related. But,
I'll keep trying.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
 
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Graham Mayor

While I concede that users are complaining about mouse issues with Word
2007, the problem is not universal. Using Windows XP and the mouse driver
5.1.2600.0 dated 1/7/2001 with a Microsoft wireless mouse there are no
zooming or scrolling problems here. On the advanced settings of the driver
the settings (probably default) are sample rate 100, wheel detection -
Assume wheel is present, Input Buffer length 100 packets, and Fast
initilaization is checked.

If the problem is with Vista then all bets are off :(

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com

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Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Steven,

Is there a Universal Scrolling setting for that mouse in the control panel? If so, what happens if you turn it off?

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<<"StevenM" <stevencraigmiller(at)comcast(dot)net> wrote in message To: Herb Tyson,

Hmm ... you're right, if I give it a hard spin, zooming happens. Off course,
not with such a fine touch that it would be helpful. But Ctrl+Mouse-Wheel
works in other applications, so it is not the fault of the mouse, but of Word
2007. Is it possible they might come up with a fix and someday my mouse will
be able to zoom in Word?

Steven Craig Miller <<
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
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StevenM

Bob,

I didn't find a "Universal Scrolling" setting, but I did check or uncheck
every box, or toggled every button, which I thought might effect the behavior
of the mouse. I downloaded a new mouse driver and intalled it. My mouse zooms
like I dance, either not at all, or such as no one wants to look.

Steven Craig Miller
 
S

StevenM

To: Graham Mayor,

I bought a new computer and its OS is Vista, and at the same time, I
received Office 2007, including Word 2007. It is interesting to note that
Ctrl+Wheel = zoom works fine in Excel 2007, just not in Word 2007.

I've also just downloaded the mouse driver to make sure that I had the
latest driver for my mouse. It is a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser 6000.

Given the fact that Ctrl+Wheel = zoom works just fine in Excel 2007, but not
in Word 2007, wouldn't that seem to suggest that the problem is in Word?

Steven Craig Miller
 
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Herb Tyson [MVP]

I've been around the identical dance floor--same mouse as you, but it
happens with four other models of wireless Microsoft mice, as well. My guess
is that Word does something non-standard that Excel does not do, and that
formatted Outlook windows take their cues from Word, and hence mimic Word
2007's zooming issue.

I don't have XP anymore, Bob, so I can't say if the problem occurs there.
But, I get the identical problem on my desktop and my laptop--both running
Vista. My wife's laptop--which also runs Vista--does not have the problem.
But... she doesn't use IntelliPoint, although she does use a wireless
Microsoft mouse. She just uses the default mouse driver that comes with
Vista.

If StevenM isn't using the programmable features of his mouse, he could
scrap IntelliPoint and the problem would likely go away. I *do* use the
programmable buttons, however, and am addicted to them. So, I've made a
conscious decision to live with the problem in Word and Outlook, and to make
do with work-arounds.

As an aside, I can plug in the OEM USB mouse that came with my desktop
computer, and its wheel zooms just fine in Word, since it uses the
HID-Compliant Mouse driver. So, if I were really desperate, I could have two
mice on my desk.

Oh... and by the way. The problem isn't just with Word 2007. I have Word
2003 installed, as well, and it has the same problem as Word 2007.
 
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StevenM

To: Herb Tyson,

Re: << If StevenM isn't using the programmable features of his mouse, he
could scrap IntelliPoint and the problem would likely go away. >>

Do you have any idea how I might go about this?

Steven Craig Miller
 
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Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Herb,

It was easier when Intellipoint included a Universal scroll feature that you could set an exception to by app :)

In cases where I've come across folks who have gotten Word 2007 to also work with the wheel mouse scrolling (after zapping the data
key in Word was only a partial fix <g>) the approach seems to involve a conflict with either an add-in, or some other mouse related
software, either an OEM driver installed by the PC maker or something like this rather odd USB port 'Vista picked it' fix in the
message by JiK dated 21Mar2008 in

http://pcadvisor.uk/forums/index.cfm?action=showthread&threadid=307219&forumid=1

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I've been around the identical dance floor--same mouse as you, but it
happens with four other models of wireless Microsoft mice, as well. My guess
is that Word does something non-standard that Excel does not do, and that
formatted Outlook windows take their cues from Word, and hence mimic Word
2007's zooming issue.

I don't have XP anymore, Bob, so I can't say if the problem occurs there.
But, I get the identical problem on my desktop and my laptop--both running
Vista. My wife's laptop--which also runs Vista--does not have the problem.
But... she doesn't use IntelliPoint, although she does use a wireless
Microsoft mouse. She just uses the default mouse driver that comes with
Vista.

If StevenM isn't using the programmable features of his mouse, he could
scrap IntelliPoint and the problem would likely go away. I *do* use the
programmable buttons, however, and am addicted to them. So, I've made a
conscious decision to live with the problem in Word and Outlook, and to make
do with work-arounds.

As an aside, I can plug in the OEM USB mouse that came with my desktop
computer, and its wheel zooms just fine in Word, since it uses the
HID-Compliant Mouse driver. So, if I were really desperate, I could have two
mice on my desk.

Oh... and by the way. The problem isn't just with Word 2007. I have Word
2003 installed, as well, and it has the same problem as Word 2007.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP >>

--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
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StevenM

Herb,

That worked!! And if I understand what I read in the subject of
IntelliPoint, I never used those functions anyway. Wow, thanks again!!

Steven Craig Miller
 
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Herb Tyson [MVP]

Zapping the Data key isn't even a partial or temporary fix for people who
are actively using the IntelliPoint drivers and remapping the programmable
mouse button. For us, the alternatives appear to be a) living with it, or b)
installing an alternative to IntelliPoint. There's something called XMouse
that provides similar programmability, and lets Ctrl+Wheel zoom. However, I
found the mouse action too mechanical and jerky, and went back to
IntelliPoint.
 
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Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Herb,

As I mentioned the data key 'attempt' doesn't fix it, but I've come across several variations of finding an unexpected port use or
'oem mouse' still having parts found in the system that tended to result in an issue with the Intellipoint or similar drivers. One
was at the end of the longish thread from the link in the prior message.


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Zapping the Data key isn't even a partial or temporary fix for people who
are actively using the IntelliPoint drivers and remapping the programmable
mouse button. For us, the alternatives appear to be a) living with it, or b)
installing an alternative to IntelliPoint. There's something called XMouse
that provides similar programmability, and lets Ctrl+Wheel zoom. However, I
found the mouse action too mechanical and jerky, and went back to
IntelliPoint.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP >>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
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Herb Tyson [MVP]

When time permits, I'll pursue that. But, I have to say that I'm having the
problem on all five of our computers. I've never personally seen Ctrl+wheel
zoom work correctly in Word and Outlook messages when using the IntelliPoint
6.x drivers and a Microsoft wireless laser or optical mouse.
 

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