Why can a rule not be created relating to SENT messages?

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Terry T

This seems to have been a problem with MS-Express and MS-Outlook for some
years - without resolution. With the "In" box one is able to create boxes
and "rules" whereby INCOMING e-mail from specific parties can be directed to
a particular box. With the "Out" box one is ONLY able create boxes - being
quite pointless whilst one cannot create a rule [that I can find anyway]
whereby OUTgoing mail to specific parties is directed.

Am I missing something?

Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.
 
You are missing a few things:

which version of Outlookare you using?
what do you want to achieve?

Tools | Rules | New Rule | start from a Blank rule is the starting point in
most versions.

Regards

Judy Gleeson
MVP Outlook

www.judygleeson.com
www.deskdoctors.com

Are you sick of bad email practice? Get a copy of my paper "Implementing
Email Policy" from the Desk Doctors website.
 
I would have though that what I "want to acheive" is pretty obvious.

Which is ...... since I can create a rule whereby incoming mail FROM [say]
Joe Bloggs wil be directed to a box attached to the "In" box I ALSO want to
be able to create a rule whereby outgoing amil SENT Joe Bloggs wil be
directed to a box attached to the "OUT" box.
--
Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.


Judy Gleeson (MVP Outlook) said:
You are missing a few things:

which version of Outlookare you using?
what do you want to achieve?

Tools | Rules | New Rule | start from a Blank rule is the starting point in
most versions.

Regards

Judy Gleeson
MVP Outlook

www.judygleeson.com
www.deskdoctors.com

Are you sick of bad email practice? Get a copy of my paper "Implementing
Email Policy" from the Desk Doctors website.
Terry T said:
This seems to have been a problem with MS-Express and MS-Outlook for some
years - without resolution. With the "In" box one is able to create boxes
and "rules" whereby INCOMING e-mail from specific parties can be directed
to
a particular box. With the "Out" box one is ONLY able create boxes - being
quite pointless whilst one cannot create a rule [that I can find anyway]
whereby OUTgoing mail to specific parties is directed.

Am I missing something?

Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.
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Sorry! I should have added I am using Office 7 suite.
--
Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.


Judy Gleeson (MVP Outlook) said:
You are missing a few things:

which version of Outlookare you using?
what do you want to achieve?

Tools | Rules | New Rule | start from a Blank rule is the starting point in
most versions.

Regards

Judy Gleeson
MVP Outlook

www.judygleeson.com
www.deskdoctors.com

Are you sick of bad email practice? Get a copy of my paper "Implementing
Email Policy" from the Desk Doctors website.
Terry T said:
This seems to have been a problem with MS-Express and MS-Outlook for some
years - without resolution. With the "In" box one is able to create boxes
and "rules" whereby INCOMING e-mail from specific parties can be directed
to
a particular box. With the "Out" box one is ONLY able create boxes - being
quite pointless whilst one cannot create a rule [that I can find anyway]
whereby OUTgoing mail to specific parties is directed.

Am I missing something?

Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.
Click to expand...
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I would have though that what I "want to acheive" is pretty obvious.

Which is ...... since I can create a rule whereby incoming mail FROM [say]
Joe Bloggs wil be directed to a box attached to the "In" box I ALSO want
to
be able to create a rule whereby outgoing amil SENT Joe Bloggs wil be
directed to a box attached to the "OUT" box.
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You certainly can create rules that direct outgoing mail to whatever folders
you like. Keep in mind, though, that unlike Inbox, which is intended for
message storage, Outbox is a temporary location for messages that have not
yet been sent. All outgoing messages must pass through Outbox in order to
be delivered. Once they're delivered, they're moved to Sent Items (or a
folder of your choice if you create a rule to move the message). You don't
want Outbox subfolders, although they'd probably work.
 
I can't believe I am doing this ...again.

But here goes ...

I am using Office 2007 Suite - which includes [presmubly] Outook 7.
I would have though that what I "want to acheive" is pretty obvious.

Which is ...... since I can create a rule whereby incoming mail FROM [say]
Joe Bloggs wil be directed to a box attached to the "In" box I ALSO want
to
be able to create a rule whereby outgoing amil SENT Joe Bloggs wil be
directed to a box attached to the "OUT" box.
Click to expand...
All versions of Outlook support after sending rules.
Click to expand...

Great news! HOW is what I want to know.

Thanks fpor your interest.




--
Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.

Diane Poremsky said:
All versions of Outlook support after sending rules.

What exactly are you trying to do?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





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Terry T said:
This seems to have been a problem with MS-Express and MS-Outlook for some
years - without resolution. With the "In" box one is able to create boxes
and "rules" whereby INCOMING e-mail from specific parties can be directed
to
a particular box. With the "Out" box one is ONLY able create boxes - being
quite pointless whilst one cannot create a rule [that I can find anyway]
whereby OUTgoing mail to specific parties is directed.

Am I missing something?

Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
O.K I'll put it differently....

1.
I have created boxes from the SENT box - including one for Joe Bloggs.
2.
I want to create a "rule" whereby e-mail SENT to Joe Bloggs - goes to his box.

PROBLEM
The method of setting up "rules" does NOT cater for setting a rule for a
message
SENT.

HOW do I overcome this?



--
Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.


Terry T said:
I can't believe I am doing this ...again.

But here goes ...

I am using Office 2007 Suite - which includes [presmubly] Outook 7.
I would have though that what I "want to acheive" is pretty obvious.

Which is ...... since I can create a rule whereby incoming mail FROM [say]
Joe Bloggs wil be directed to a box attached to the "In" box I ALSO want
to
be able to create a rule whereby outgoing amil SENT Joe Bloggs wil be
directed to a box attached to the "OUT" box.
Click to expand...
All versions of Outlook support after sending rules.
Click to expand...

Great news! HOW is what I want to know.

Thanks fpor your interest.




--
Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.

Diane Poremsky said:
All versions of Outlook support after sending rules.

What exactly are you trying to do?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





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Terry T said:
This seems to have been a problem with MS-Express and MS-Outlook for some
years - without resolution. With the "In" box one is able to create boxes
and "rules" whereby INCOMING e-mail from specific parties can be directed
to
a particular box. With the "Out" box one is ONLY able create boxes - being
quite pointless whilst one cannot create a rule [that I can find anyway]
whereby OUTgoing mail to specific parties is directed.

Am I missing something?

Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.
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Click to expand...
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1.
I have created boxes from the SENT box - including one for Joe Bloggs.
2.
I want to create a "rule" whereby e-mail SENT to Joe Bloggs - goes to his
box.

PROBLEM
The method of setting up "rules" does NOT cater for setting a rule for a
message
SENT.

HOW do I overcome this?
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Tools>Rules and Alerts>New Rule>Start from a blank rule>Check messages after
sending
 
THANK you Brian!

You are a STAR! THAT was the answer I was looking for!

Good on ya mate!
 
I posted that ages ago - did the OP look at what I pointed him to?

Regards

Judy Gleeson
MVP Outlook

www.judygleeson.com
www.deskdoctors.com

Are you sick of bad email practice? Get a copy of my paper "Implementing
Email Policy" from the Desk Doctors website.
 
Quite simple really.

For starters the first option one is faced with in making a "rule" is "Move
a message from someone to a folder." To anyone with a reasonble rational
mind this should surely be IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED with the option ""Move a
message TO someone to a folder."

Secondly ... why, in the absence of this, would anyone reasonably expect
to have to gravitate all the way to the bottom and even begin to imagine that
"Start from a blank rule" [whatever THAT is supposed to convey!] will be of
any use: let alone what to "Check message when they arrive"; why would I want
to CHECK the "arrival" of a message which is being SENT?


As for Judy Gleeson's remark ....
"I posted that ages ago - did the OP look at what I pointed him to? "

this is nonsense because [have a look at the thread] ALL she said was the
very vague ....

"Tools | Rules | New Rule | start from a Blank rule is the starting point in
most versions."

Nowhere near the the good communication from Brian which says "Tools>Rules
and Alerts>New Rule>Start from a blank rule>Check messages after
sending".

Which said it all - instantly.

Thanks anyway folks. This thread is now closed.
 
I posted that ages ago - did the OP look at what I pointed him to?
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You posted this on December 3, yes. As you say, ages in the life of a
newsgroup. Apparently the OP didn't look well enough at what you posted
despite having replied to your post.
 
Quite simple really.
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Not simple because Judy told you exactly the same thing I told you. If you
had followed Judy's instructions and didn't have your eyes closed when you
did, you would have seen the "Check messages after sending": option for
yourself and that's the only extra information I explicitly included.
 
For replies, there is an option to place the reply in the folder with the
original message. Look in tools, options, email options, advanced options.
This works well for messages you filter from people you don't send new mail
to (such as responses to sales queries).

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Terry T said:
O.K I'll put it differently....

1.
I have created boxes from the SENT box - including one for Joe Bloggs.
2.
I want to create a "rule" whereby e-mail SENT to Joe Bloggs - goes to his
box.

PROBLEM
The method of setting up "rules" does NOT cater for setting a rule for a
message
SENT.

HOW do I overcome this?



--
Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.


Terry T said:
I can't believe I am doing this ...again.

But here goes ...

I am using Office 2007 Suite - which includes [presmubly] Outook 7.
I would have though that what I "want to acheive" is pretty obvious.

Which is ...... since I can create a rule whereby incoming mail FROM
[say]
Joe Bloggs wil be directed to a box attached to the "In" box I ALSO
want
to
be able to create a rule whereby outgoing amil SENT Joe Bloggs wil be
directed to a box attached to the "OUT" box.
Click to expand...
All versions of Outlook support after sending rules.
Click to expand...

Great news! HOW is what I want to know.

Thanks fpor your interest.




--
Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.

Diane Poremsky said:
All versions of Outlook support after sending rules.

What exactly are you trying to do?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
(e-mail address removed)

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
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your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


This seems to have been a problem with MS-Express and MS-Outlook for
some
years - without resolution. With the "In" box one is able to create
boxes
and "rules" whereby INCOMING e-mail from specific parties can be
directed
to
a particular box. With the "Out" box one is ONLY able create boxes -
being
quite pointless whilst one cannot create a rule [that I can find
anyway]
whereby OUTgoing mail to specific parties is directed.

Am I missing something?

Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.
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Brian

If YOU didn't have YOUR eyes closed you would have seen the following:-

1.
this thread was CLOSED.
2
that Judy's instructions were BUM in that it refers vaguely to .....

"Tools | Rules | New Rule | ..."

which does not compare with [your] more inteliigent

Tools>Rules and Alerts>New Rule>

3.
..... and refers to some-or-other "starting point" .... which conveys
nothing; starting point to WHAT?. I wasn't looking to "START" anything.

4.
you would have seen the "Check messages after sending": option for
yourself and that's the only extra information I explicitly included.
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Also somewhat stupid on YOUR part since WHY the Hell would I want to check a
message AFTER I had sent it? Fortunately I am aware of the fact that
14-year-olds (especially American type!) communicate very bady at the best of
times - so I looked at it - wherupon I was able to make sense of it.

One day when you have BOTH gravitated to an age beyond 14 call me. I'll give
you free lessons on how to COMMUNICATE clearly and sensibly. WITHOUT being
lazy. You will learn - amongst other things - that it is VIETnam and not
"NAM"; that when you answer the phone you don't [stupidly] ask "who's this "
when "this" would you be YOU ...; etc. etc.

I will also teach you how to play a MAN's game - RUGBY - to replace running
around dressed up in kevlar pajamas - like nancy's.
 
Hi Terry T ,
If I understood you correctly you can acheive that just by choosing Check messages after sending when you click Rules wizard button and you can choose the recepient and which folder messages will be directed to ...Good Luck

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Sincerely,
AFA
(e-mail address removed)


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I can't believe I am doing this ...again.

But here goes ...

I am using Office 2007 Suite - which includes [presmubly] Outook 7.
I would have though that what I "want to acheive" is pretty obvious.

Which is ...... since I can create a rule whereby incoming mail FROM [say]
Joe Bloggs wil be directed to a box attached to the "In" box I ALSO want
to
be able to create a rule whereby outgoing amil SENT Joe Bloggs wil be
directed to a box attached to the "OUT" box.
Click to expand...
All versions of Outlook support after sending rules.
Click to expand...

Great news! HOW is what I want to know.

Thanks fpor your interest.




--
Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.

Diane Poremsky said:
All versions of Outlook support after sending rules.

What exactly are you trying to do?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
(e-mail address removed)

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your
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Terry T said:
This seems to have been a problem with MS-Express and MS-Outlook for some
years - without resolution. With the "In" box one is able to create boxes
and "rules" whereby INCOMING e-mail from specific parties can be directed
to
a particular box. With the "Out" box one is ONLY able create boxes - being
quite pointless whilst one cannot create a rule [that I can find anyway]
whereby OUTgoing mail to specific parties is directed.

Am I missing something?

Accountant and Delphi programming specialist.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

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You will learn - amongst other things - that it is VIETnam and not
"NAM"; that when you answer the phone you don't [stupidly] ask "who's
this "
when "this" would you be YOU ...; etc. etc.
Click to expand...

Sorry, but I don't know why you think I don't know how to spell Viet Nam
(the country's name is actually two words) or that I'd say anything other
than "Who's calling, please?" Also, i passed my 14th birthday four decades
ago.
I will also teach you how to play a MAN's game - RUGBY - to replace
running
around dressed up in kevlar pajamas - like nancy's
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Women don't play Rugby? Shocking!
 
As a Vietnam veteran, I can assure you it is one word.
Phonetic Pronunciation: vee-et-NAHM

Tom
: :
: > You will learn - amongst other things - that it is VIETnam and not
: > "NAM"; that when you answer the phone you don't [stupidly] ask "who's
: > this "
: > when "this" would you be YOU ...; etc. etc.
:
: Sorry, but I don't know why you think I don't know how to spell Viet Nam
: (the country's name is actually two words) or that I'd say anything other
: than "Who's calling, please?" Also, i passed my 14th birthday four
decades
: ago.
:
: > I will also teach you how to play a MAN's game - RUGBY - to replace
: > running
: > around dressed up in kevlar pajamas - like nancy's
:
: Women don't play Rugby? Shocking!
: --
: Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
:
 
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