Who makes ink? And who sells it?

[Richard Steinfeld]

OK.
Forget generic and relabeled ink.

Who actually makes printer ink, especially good ink?
And where can it be purchased?

I only know of InkTec, from Korea. I believe that InkTec also sells the
same inks under a second brand name.

Richard

 

[Davy]

That's a Million Dollor Question and been discussed many times.

All I can add is that Multi-Union Trading Co Ltd of Hong Kong produces
Print Rite inks amongst others.

See link-: http://www.globalsources.com/si/6007000022298/multiun.co
These folks are willing to tank it for you and put your own label
on.

When relating to HP, Epson & Canon etc. well, someone makes it
thats for sure... or it could be made under strict formulations by
Joe Bloggs & Co.

One thing for sure they never bloat or show piccy's of their inks
being manufactured so I doubt if they make it themselves, since this
is a big selling point rather than the actual printer..!

Davy

 

[Gary Tait]

OK.
Forget generic and relabeled ink.

Who actually makes printer ink, especially good ink?
And where can it be purchased?

Most mass manufactured aftermarket inks can only be purchased through ink
resellers. I know that is the case for Sensient Formulabs, whom sell
through a couple popular vendors.

 

[measekite]

Most mass manufactured aftermarket inks can only be purchased through ink
resellers.

You mean relabelers. They are putting their own label on someone elses ink.

I know that is the case for Sensient Formulabs, whom sell
through a couple popular vendors.

Oh another relabel job, I see

 

[Richard Steinfeld]

Most mass manufactured aftermarket inks can only be purchased through ink
resellers. I know that is the case for Sensient Formulabs, whom sell
through a couple popular vendors.

I think that I came across one cartridge refiller who said that they
used Kimberly-Clark ink. I forgot who this is.

Richard

 

[Gary Tait]

You mean relabelers. They are putting their own label on someone
elses ink.

No, I mean resellers. The fact that they put their own label on the bottle
or cartridge point.

 

[Richard Steinfeld]

No, I mean resellers. The fact that they put their own label on the bottle
or cartridge point.

The only person I've seen use this term so far is our own resident troll
"inkystinky" otherwise known as "measekite," or what ever other spelling
he uses to get around peoples' kill files. His behavior is that of a
troll: trolls attempt to stir up false controversy between unsuspecting
people -- people who are not hip to the M.O. of trolls.

OK. So what you mean is that this party buys a big tank of ink from a
known ink manufacturer, fills small bottles with this ink, and applies
his own labels to those bottles, which he then sells. Yes?

OK: some sellers do this. And I know of at least one who states right on
his site where the ink comes from.

So he's something like "...your local Coca Cola Bottler," who buys
syrup, adds water, then bottles the caustic concoction. Except that this
variation doesn't use the national label and doesn't add water. The ink
is probably safer, too, than colas -- which is a good reason to have
yourself a nice, refreshing, draught of relabeled ink on a hot day!

Richard

 

[TJ]

The only person I've seen use this term so far is our own resident troll
"inkystinky" otherwise known as "measekite," or what ever other spelling
he uses to get around peoples' kill files. His behavior is that of a
troll: trolls attempt to stir up false controversy between unsuspecting
people -- people who are not hip to the M.O. of trolls.

OK. So what you mean is that this party buys a big tank of ink from a
known ink manufacturer, fills small bottles with this ink, and applies
his own labels to those bottles, which he then sells. Yes?

OK: some sellers do this. And I know of at least one who states right on
his site where the ink comes from.

So he's something like "...your local Coca Cola Bottler," who buys
syrup, adds water, then bottles the caustic concoction. Except that this
variation doesn't use the national label and doesn't add water. The ink
is probably safer, too, than colas -- which is a good reason to have
yourself a nice, refreshing, draught of relabeled ink on a hot day!

Richard

Arguing with Miscreant is worthless. He's like the incessant barking dog
of a neighbor - yelling at him to shut up will only make you hoarse and
cause him to bark all the more, the same bark over and over and over
and... I refuse to do it any more.

I don't really care what label is on the ink I use, or even if there is
a label. All I care about is if it works for the things I want to do.
When a few dozen customers a day see the photo of my mother and the fish
she caught, as they did today, the comments I hear center around her and
the catch, not the technical characteristics of the print - and that's
the way it should be. That's the way I want it to be. The materials I
use to create the print are immaterial.

None of my prints will ever be sold, and none will ever be displayed in
a museum someplace. I'm OK with that. My prints last as long as I need
them to last - not for 100 years, but quite long enough. I'm OK with
that, too. My printer rarely clogs with the ink I use, and when it does
clog it's easily cleared. I'm OK with that, too. Why shouldn't I be?

TJ

 

[drc023]

Kimberly-Clark formerly owned Formulabs.
--
Ron

I think that I came across one cartridge refiller who said that they used
Kimberly-Clark ink. I forgot who this is.

Richard

 

[measekite]

No, I mean resellers. The fact that they put their own label on the bottle
or cartridge point.

You mean relabelers. They are putting their own label on someone
elses ink. What a joke. When one repackages a product they buy and put their own name on it that is called relabeling.

 

[measekite]

Arguing with Miscreant is worthless.

And he awakens.

He's like the incessant barking dog of a neighbor - yelling at him to
shut up will only make you hoarse and cause him to bark all the more,
the same bark over and over and over and... I refuse to do it any more.

You just did.

I don't really care what label is on the ink I use, or even if there
is a label. All I care about is if it works for the things I want to
do. When a few dozen customers a day see the photo of my mother and
the fish she caught, as they did today, the comments I hear center
around her and the catch, not the technical characteristics of the
print - and that's the way it should be. That's the way I want it to
be. The materials I use to create the print are immaterial.

None of my prints will ever be sold,

I believe it when you say that

and none will ever be displayed in a museum someplace.

I believe that too

I'm OK with that. My prints last as long as I need them to last - not
for 100 years, but quite long enough. I'm OK with that, too. My printer

rarely clogs

mine never clogs

 

[frank]

No, I mean resellers. The fact that they put their own label on the bottle
or cartridge point.

Right. No matter what that worthless POS meashershithead says, there is
no such thing as a "relabeler".
What a dip shit loser he is.
Frank

 

[Stick Stickus]

You mean relabelers. They are putting their own label on someone
elses ink. What a joke. When one repackages a product they buy and put
their own name on it that is called relabeling.

That also applies to Canon. They do not make the ink used in their printers.
It is made by different company and then put into cartridges which are
'relabeled with the canon brand.
Using your own terms that makes Canon a 'Relabeler'.

 

[TJ]

That also applies to Canon. They do not make the ink used in their printers.
It is made by different company and then put into cartridges which are
'relabeled with the canon brand.
Using your own terms that makes Canon a 'Relabeler'.

They aren't alone, either. It's been a time-honored practice among large
companies for years. Sears Kenmore large appliances have been made by
Whirlpool, Tappan, and others. I have an old Sears "Ted Williams"
outboard that was made by McCulloch. Sears Craftsman lawn mowers and
garden tractors have been made by Simplicity and MTD. I have an Allis
Chalmers garden tractor that was actually made by Simplicity. Case
International Cub Cadet lawn equipment is now made by MTD. I have parts
lists from the original manufacturers for the pieces I have, as well as
from the merchants and the parts I have purchased are identical.


Labels don't mean nearly as much as some people think they do.

TJ

 

[Gary Tait]

OK. So what you mean is that this party buys a big tank of ink from a
known ink manufacturer, fills small bottles with this ink, and applies
his own labels to those bottles, which he then sells. Yes?

Yes.


OK: some sellers do this. And I know of at least one who states right
on his site where the ink comes from.

So he's something like "...your local Coca Cola Bottler," who buys
syrup, adds water, then bottles the caustic concoction. Except that
this variation doesn't use the national label and doesn't add water.
The ink is probably safer, too, than colas -- which is a good reason
to have yourself a nice, refreshing, draught of relabeled ink on a hot
day!

Noe, it is more like Joe's Gas Bar. They might be Joe's Exxon where he
exclusively buys from Exxon, or just Joe's Gas, where he buys from Exxon,
Mobil, Texaco, Chevron, whoever will give him a deal, and yes, likely
won't tell you who is in his tank today.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

You mean the toilet paper people ;-)

 

[measekite]

That also applies to Canon.

No you are thinking very small. You see Canon engineered and patented
their ink. It belong to them. They may outsource production but they
are responsible to maintain quality control and product assurance.

They do not make the ink used in their printers.
It is made by different company and then put into cartridges which are
'relabeled with the canon brand.

Again you think small. They are Canon designed and patented cartridges
(now with chips) that are labeled for the first time by Canon and
packaged in boxes that are labeled by Canon. The product never has had
anybody elses label so it is impossible to be relabeled. Re something
means for the 2nd or more time. Another joke

Using your own terms that makes Canon a 'Relabeler'.

Totally Illogical

 

[Richard Steinfeld]

You mean the toilet paper people ;-)

It's relabeled. It's generic.
Makes your toilet explode.
Yech!

Richard

 

[Stick Stickus]

No you are thinking very small. You see Canon engineered and patented
their ink. It belong to them. They may outsource production but they are
responsible to maintain quality control and product assurance.


Again you think small. They are Canon designed and patented cartridges
(now with chips) that are labeled for the first time by Canon and packaged
in boxes that are labeled by Canon. The product never has had anybody
elses label so it is impossible to be relabeled. Re something means for
the 2nd or more time. Another joke


Totally Illogical

OCP (as an example), manufacture and supply their own ink to be an viable
alternative to Canon's, they also hold patents on their own.
Under your views as told many times in this ng. A company that gets its inks
from another supplier is a relabeller.
Canon may formulate their inks as does OCP, but OCP also manufacture their
own inks unlike Canon. OCP are not selling or promoting their ink as
identical to
Canons (that would likely break patents) and could lead to legal action, but
as a viable alternative which
matches and does in some cases exceed the quality and properties of Canons
inks.
You, who profess never to have used Aftermarket inks continue to spout only
what you may have read in a small
number of magazines, unlike those of us who have first hand experience using
other manufacturers inks.
It is also interesting to note that in your world, the likes of Tesco's,
Sainsbury's, Wal-Mart, etc. would also be classed as relabellers
because in many cases they do not make all their own brand products. They
are made by other companies and 'relabeled by the above named to sell on.
I bet use their products though!

 

[measekite]

OCP (as an example), manufacture and supply their own ink to be an viable
alternative to Canon's, they also hold patents on their own.

Oh then go to Staples, Office Depot, Costco, Circuit City, Office Max,
Phtography Stores, Best Buy and see if you find it.