Which Start Menu?

[ms]

I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders under
Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a Startup menu.

I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings that
related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see the icons of
the running programs in the System Tray.

Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start Menu to
modify?

ms

 

[John John (MVP)]

The programs can be running without necessarily having an icon in the
Notification Area (what you call the System Tray). Did you look in the
Task Manager to see if the programs were running? The programs should
start if you put them in the Startup folder under your UserName or in
the "All Users" Startup folder.

John

 

[ms]

The programs can be running without necessarily having an icon in the
Notification Area (what you call the System Tray). Did you look in
the Task Manager to see if the programs were running? The programs
should start if you put them in the Startup folder under your UserName
or in the "All Users" Startup folder.

John

I looked in Task Manager, not there. I tried in All Users, no luck.

I moved the shortcuts to the Startup folder in All Users.Winnt. Now it
works and the icons appear in the System Tray (maybe I still use W98
terminology).

I will probably post some more messages, as I succeeded in reinstalling the
OS, but lost all my previous settings, so back to where I was 4 years ago,
and with memory issues as a senior, that will be fun.

Thanks

ms

 

[John John (MVP)]

I looked in Task Manager, not there. I tried in All Users, no luck.

I moved the shortcuts to the Startup folder in All Users.Winnt. Now it
works and the icons appear in the System Tray (maybe I still use W98
terminology).

I will probably post some more messages, as I succeeded in reinstalling the
OS, but lost all my previous settings, so back to where I was 4 years ago,
and with memory issues as a senior, that will be fun.

I don't know what you mean by "All Users.Winnt" but I think that your
reinstall may have been borked, unless you upgraded to Windows 2000 from
NT 4 you will not find the profile folders in the WINNT directory, they
will be in the Documents and Settings folder.

John

 

[ms]

I don't know what you mean by "All Users.Winnt" but I think that your
reinstall may have been borked, unless you upgraded to Windows 2000
from NT 4 you will not find the profile folders in the WINNT
directory, they will be in the Documents and Settings folder.

John

My install was AFAIK, a normal, uneventful install.

Under Documents and Settings, are 4 different User folders. One of them is
All Users.Winnt, that is the only one where the shortcuts worked.

Are you saying All Users.Winnt is not a usual folder under Documents and
Settings?

ms

 

[John John (MVP)]

My install was AFAIK, a normal, uneventful install.

Under Documents and Settings, are 4 different User folders. One of them is
All Users.Winnt, that is the only one where the shortcuts worked.

Are you saying All Users.Winnt is not a usual folder under Documents and
Settings?

That is an unusual folder, the .Winnt appendage is not to be expected on
a clean installation, and I don't know of any normal circumstances where
..winnt would be a appended to any of the profile folders, unless you
renamed this folder this is a bit strange. Also, there is no reason why
on a clean install the shortcuts would work in the All Users Startup
folder but not in your profile's Startup folder, there is something not
quite right with your installation. Are you connected to a high speed
always on internet connection? Was the machine connected to the
internet when you did the installation?

John

 

[Ben Myers]

I am not at my W2K computer, but IIRC, there are 4 different folders under
Documents and Settings, each has a Start Menu, each has a Startup menu.
I put a group of shortcuts in the Startup Menu in the 2 main headings that
related to me. Rebooted, that did not work. I expected to see the icons of
the running programs in the System Tray.
Which subfolder under Documents and Settings has the active Start Menu to
modify?

See if this is helpful.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/242258

Ben

 

[John John (MVP)]

See if this is helpful.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/242258

Ben

Much as I suspected this wasn't a clean installation. Thanks for the
link to the article, Ben.

 

[ms]

See if this is helpful.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/242258

Ben

Thanks, Ben. Very helpful as it explains my situation, install over an
existing installation.

ms

 

[ms]

Much as I suspected this wasn't a clean installation. Thanks for the
link to the article, Ben.

See above, yes it was a re-install.

This situation (W2K continuous reboot out of nowhere), a W98 machine with
boot error message with no previous cause, a friend whose wideband crashed
so his XP crashed, does not leave me with a warm feeling about an OS. They
will crash, sooner or later. I am careful, it still happened. So I am now
looking at regular frequent backups.

ms

 

[Dave Patrick]

Since you have lost everything anyway you should clean install rather than
fiddle with this.


To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
for your drive controller in drive "A")

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en
and
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS08-067.mspx


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


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[Dave Patrick]

Since you have lost everything anyway you should clean install rather than
fiddle with this.


To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
for your drive controller in drive "A")

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en
and
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS08-067.mspx


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


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