Which defrag?

[jt]

Hello all,

New user of XP home w/ sp2. Is the native defrag adequate or should I get a
better one? Which is better, O&O pro or PerfectDisk?

 

[John Barnett MVP]

Personally i prefer Perfectdisk

 

[=?iso-8859-1?B?uyBtcnRlZSCr?=]

I like Diskeeper.

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Just my 2¢ worth,
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[Ken Blake]

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New user of XP home w/ sp2. Is the native defrag adequate or
should
I get a better one? Which is better, O&O pro or PerfectDisk?

I think Perfect Disk is the best product available, but the
native defragger works too. Whether it's worth spending money for
an improved product, you have to decide for yourself.

 

[relic]

Hello all,

New user of XP home w/ sp2. Is the native defrag adequate or should
I get a better one? Which is better, O&O pro or PerfectDisk?

1. VoptXP.
2. Disk Keeper.
:
:
473. PerfectDisk
:
:
943. XP'x Built-in Defragger.
:
:
2,789. O&O.

 

[Enkidu]

Hello all,

New user of XP home w/ sp2. Is the native defrag
adequate or should I get a better one? Which is
better, O&O pro or PerfectDisk?

I never defrag. If you have a reasonably large hard disk,
there is little real advantage in defragging a disk. In
addition it exercises the disk which theoretically reduces
its life.

If you have a small disk, degragging is not an efficient
process anyway.

I certainly wouldn't pay money for a defragger.

Cheers,

Cliff

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

You should look at some studies on the effects of fragmentation:
http://www1.execsoft.com/pdf/Diskeeper_Evaluation.pdf

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

I prefer Diskeeper 9. Try the native defragger and then try a trial version
of any of the third party programs. The 30-day trial for Diskeeper9 is at:
http://consumer.execsoft.com/downloads/downloads.asp?a=l&PId=95

 

[Mr Floppy]

I never defrag. If you have a reasonably large hard disk,
there is little real advantage in defragging a disk. In
addition it exercises the disk which theoretically reduces
its life.

If you have a small disk, degragging is not an efficient
process anyway.

I certainly wouldn't pay money for a defragger.

Cheers,

Cliff

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!, where do you people come from?? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Champagne Comedy!

 

[da_test]

I prefer Diskeeper 9. Try the native defragger and then try a trial version
of any of the third party programs. The 30-day trial for Diskeeper9 is at:
http://consumer.execsoft.com/downloads/downloads.asp?a=l&PId=95

I maintain a 9GB fat32 partition, and I've always found DK to be
incredibly slow thrashing around trying to defrag this partition.
DK has a real problem with FAT. On the other hand, it's great for
NTFS.

I'm trialling Perfectdisk at the moment, it can defrag the folders
on Fat32 and can optimize the mft and metadata on NTFS.
I think these are the mian advantages.
I'm a little dubious of it's "smart placement". Perfectdisk works
better that DK (faster) on Fat32.

Dave

 

[Enkidu]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!, where do you people come from??
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Champagne Comedy!

Got some point to make? How many servers do *you* look after?

Cheers,

Cliff

 

[Enkidu]

You should look at some studies on the effects of fragmentation:
http://www1.execsoft.com/pdf/Diskeeper_Evaluation.pdf

Hmm, do the words "vested interest" mean anything to you? I
notice that they are very careful to leave out any mention
of disk caching, paging, running from memory and all the
other things that are done today to speed up applications.

If an application does a read, process, write, read,
process, write cycle all the time there might be benefits
from defragging. Typical applications don't do that.

Only if an application is heavily I/O bound is there any
benefit from careful placement of files on disks. The only
real-world example I can think of is backup and from my
tests the benefits were only a few percent.

Cheers,

Cliff

 

[Kadaitcha Man]

Enkidu, <[email protected]>, the embarrassing, suppressed
chicken-****er, and employee responsible for the care and maintenance of the
church organ, grouched:

I never defrag. If you have a reasonably large hard disk,
there is little real advantage in defragging a disk. In
addition it exercises the disk which theoretically reduces
its life.

*blink*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You ****ing idiotic ****.

 

[Bhadradeha-naga Elayavalli]

Got some point to make?

He's making the point that you're an idiot.

How many servers do *you* look after?

If that question is intending to imply that you do, then if I were your
boss, I'd fire you. You are an idiot.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Diskeeper 9 Pro does all of the functions you mention. I gave up on FAT32
two years ago. It is just not as self-healing as NTFS and it is too slow on
partitions over 32mb. Take a look at the options for Diskeeper Pro's
boot-time defrag. Also take a look at the Performance Map tab. It is a
mapping of not only fragmentation, but which fragmentation actually makes a
difference to performance and by how much.

 

[Enkidu]

He's making the point that you're an idiot.




If that question is intending to imply that you do, then if
I were your boss, I'd fire you. You are an idiot.

Would you care to explain why you think this? My tests would
indicate that for servers at least defragmentation is of
little benefit if any.

Now if you have something constructive to say, such as real
live tests on real world servers, please let us know. This
is true for web servers, database servers and file and print
server.

In particular, defragging in a low disk situation seems to
make things worse. I've a number of guesses as to why this
is, but I've not done any tests to determine the reasons.

Because if you haven't got any experience in the area,
please shut up.

Cheers,

Cliff

 

[Dharmadhrt Thirumalai]

Would you care to explain why you think this? My tests would
indicate that for servers

Did the OP indicate he wanted to defrag a server, you ****ing useless piece
of shit?

 

[Modem Ani]

The native defragmenter is completely adequate unless you are running a
server.

"Don’t Become a Defrag Junkie"
http://www.michna.com/kb/WxDefrag.htm

P.S. Aren't there some newsgroups you forgot to cross-post to?

Modem Ani

 

[Unknown]

You're kidding??? Why don't you try it and you'll change your mind.

 

[Unknown]

The native defrag program is more than adequate. What more do you want/need?