what would be the best motherboard

[Justin]

i just about to build my own pc and was thinking of using a AMD ATHLON64
3400 Athlon 64, 3400 MHz but what would be the best motherboard for this i
also wanted some corsair twin memory..i have looked at albatron k8x800 pro
motherboard but cant find one available in the uk...........thanks

 

[Hawkeye]

A friend of mine has this setup and loves it he had corsair memory in
it but went with the Geil for better performance

Athlon64 3200+ @ 2.32ghz (230mhz x 10)
Gigabyte K8NNXP
Corsair Hydrocool 200 w/ Dangerden Maze 4 S754 block
1gb GEiL Golden Dragon PC4000 (2-4-4-11]


I'm getting ready to start building a system with same board but with
3400.












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[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

i just about to build my own pc and was thinking of using a AMD ATHLON64
3400 Athlon 64, 3400 MHz but what would be the best motherboard for this
i
also wanted some corsair twin memory..i have looked at albatron k8x800
pro motherboard but cant find one available in the uk...........thanks

Asus, Gigabyte, MSI are my 3 top choices.



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[Ed]

Asus, Gigabyte, MSI are my 3 top choices.

What about Chaintech.

Eddy.

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

What about Chaintech.

I don't discount them, but I have no experience with them. Besides, the
reputation of those 3 exceed just about all others, except maybe Abit.



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[Justin]

thanks for your advice.....what do you think to corsair twin memory is it
worth the money..

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

thanks for your advice.....what do you think to corsair twin memory is it
worth the money..

Definitely.



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[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

Definitely.

Let me expound upon that. There are a couple of brands I trust for quality,
when it comes to memory: Corsair, Crucial, Mushkin. Many famous brands
actually just rebrand another company's product. I'm not sure, but I heard
that Kingston does this.

If you are interested in speed and plan to overclock, you need faster
memory. Supposedly, CAS latencies, etc. aren't as important as pure clock
speed, although they help. If you don't overclock, you could still benefit
from getting memory with some lower latency values and setting them
correctly within BIOS.

If you don't overclock, you'd waste your money on getting a faster memory
standard. So, if you run a board with 800 MHz FSB, you want DDR400 memory
and nothing faster. If you're even thinking of overclocking, get some
slightly faster memory so that it'll be solid when the juice gets turned
up.



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[Justin]

thanks........someone said that amd only uses single channel memory and that
twin memory is a waste of money.......also does anyone know where i can get
a albatron motherboard k8x800 pro from in the uk i have only seen them in
the us..............

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

thanks........someone said that amd only uses single channel memory and
that twin memory is a waste of money.......also does anyone know where i
can get a albatron motherboard k8x800 pro from in the uk i have only seen
them in the us..............

Don't the Athlon FX boards support dual channel?



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[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

i dont know i just heard that amd 64 only support single channel memory i
will have to look into it thanks............

I believe that Athlon 64 does, but I think Athlon FX supports dual channel.

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket940/sk8v/overview.htm



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[Justin]

thanks........ if you were me what would you get amd 64 and which
motherboard and memory or would you go for intel instead i would like to
overclock in time but i dont know how so i would like the option to
overclock........what would you have motherboard and memory.......thanks

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

thanks........ if you were me what would you get amd 64 and which
motherboard and memory or would you go for intel instead i would like to
overclock in time but i dont know how so i would like the option to
overclock........what would you have motherboard and memory.......thanks

Well, the Athlon FX is an expensive CPU. I'd wait for the upcoming
motherboards and CPU's that should be released in Spring from both Intel
and AMD. Both are moving to new sockets which would 'future proof' your
purchase a little better and I know that Intel is leaving the AGP and
current PCI architecture behind in favor of PCI Express 16 and 1,
respectively. I'd wait an look at reviews of the new Athlon 64 and P4
Prescott CPU's an boards, then check out newsgroups to find out peoples
gripes.



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[Justin]

thnaks for your advice i did think about waiting but i have a radeon 9800
pro graphics card on agp would it still work on pci express as i would like
to still use it........

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

thnaks for your advice i did think about waiting but i have a radeon 9800
pro graphics card on agp would it still work on pci express as i would
like to still use it........

Nope. In that case, get something now. Honestly, the Athlon 64 series
processors are the future, but they are crippled by the lack of 64 bit
Windows. Intel Northwood P4's (the current batch until Monday's release of
Prescott) overclock well.

If this is your first system, I'd go with an Intel machine. AMD machines can
be a little harrier to build for a beginner.



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[Anon]

Nope. In that case, get something now. Honestly, the Athlon 64 series

processors are the future, but they are crippled by the lack of 64 bit
Windows. Intel Northwood P4's (the current batch until Monday's release of
Prescott) overclock well.

If this is your first system, I'd go with an Intel machine. AMD machines can
be a little harrier to build for a beginner.

How so? -Dave

 

[Justin]

thanks guys....do you know is there a lot of difference between a amd 64
3400+ and a amd 64 fx as there is a big price gap but both say they use
fx.......
the amd 64 fx says under the specs
AMD ADAFX51BOX AMD ATHLON64 FX-51 940PIN W/HYPERTRANSPORT 1MB L2 CACHE
RETAIL BOX

and the amd 64 3400+ has these specs

The AMD Athlon 64 FX processor features innovative technology to provide
extraordinary performance and a computing experience without parallel. The
AMD Athlon 64 FX processor runs on AMD64, a revolutionary technology that
allows the processor to run 32-bit applications at full speed while enabling
the coming wave of powerful, 64-bit software applications. AMD64 technology
shatters barriers to new and advanced software that requires 64-bit
technology and blazing processor performance. Power-hungry enthusiasts,
gamers, and prosumers can explore the full potential of AMD64 technology
while enjoying outstanding performance on todays PC software.

 

[somebody]

I believe that Athlon 64 does, but I think Athlon FX supports dual channel.

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket940/sk8v/overview.htm

Yes, looking at the current lineup that's true.
Athlon64s will soon be available with dual channel too, on socket 939.
AthlonFX is a special case, a premium product at premium price. The
fastest desktop cpu AMD makes. As I've understood it, there are no
fixed properties tied to the FX designation. Though of course, the
current (and next, 53) FX is dual channel and socket 940.
Socket 754 is pretty cheap, and AMD has been pretty firm with that
they do not intend to 'abandon' 754 before the customers do, so socket
939 should not be seen as a replacement of either 940 or 754.

ancra

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

How so? -Dave

There are more AMD processors DOA, for one thing. 3rd party chipsets, in the
past, have had problems you just don't get with an Intel chipset. Via had
it's infamous Soundblaster problems. nVidia had lots of problems for a long
time with their nForce chipsets. I think both are much better now, but you
simply don't have such problems building a P4 on an Intel chipset. Intel
set the specs for most of the technology on the boards like PCI and they
operate well.

For a first build, I highly recommend a p4 build with an Intel chipset. Once
you've done it, and you want to venture into AMD, then have a go.



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[Justin]

i thought the current amd 64 fx 51 was socket 940.........whats the
difference between socket 940 and 939........thanks