What is the box thing near the fan aperture?

[Dickens]

I am not reall dumb. Honest. Or so my mum tells me.

BUT .. what is the plastic box thing I have seen inside a few PC
cases> It is like a four inch cube which is mounted against the
front aperture where a case fan might have gone.

The boxe has some slot type things on the back as if they were to
be used for mounting something or another.

Surely such a thing makes a din if a fan was installed
actually inside them? Or have I completely got the wrong end of
the stick about this box thing/

 

[Chris 159]

I am not reall dumb. Honest. Or so my mum tells me.

BUT .. what is the plastic box thing I have seen inside a few PC
cases> It is like a four inch cube which is mounted against the
front aperture where a case fan might have gone.

The boxe has some slot type things on the back as if they were to
be used for mounting something or another.

Surely such a thing makes a din if a fan was installed
actually inside them? Or have I completely got the wrong end of
the stick about this box thing/

its a spacer/guide for full length cards. wether or not these full length
cards are still available i dont know. the fan does mount inside them
usually, or behind the front cover - thats case specific i think.

 

[BigH2K]

I am not reall dumb. Honest. Or so my mum tells me.

BUT .. what is the plastic box thing I have seen inside a few PC
cases> It is like a four inch cube which is mounted against the
front aperture where a case fan might have gone.

The boxe has some slot type things on the back as if they were to
be used for mounting something or another.

Surely such a thing makes a din if a fan was installed
actually inside them? Or have I completely got the wrong end of
the stick about this box thing/

The box "thing" is a fan cage. The grooves on the back are to use to steady
full length expansion cards, very rare these days, and how much din they
make depends on the fan but I'd agree that they are not the ideal mounting
mechanism.

 

[Patrick]

I am not reall dumb. Honest. Or so my mum tells me.

Nope, you are not dumb. But, you do tend to piss folks off when you
cross post to all those newsgroups!!!

AND, because I am not certain that you even read one specific newsgroup,
I MUST POST to replies to them ALL!!!!!

Now, THAT makes ME a bad guy, for being STOOPID in trying to HELP
YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Most of us monitor them ALL, looking to help folks, and your name and
addy pop up in them ALL! NOW, MY reply will, also!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slows me down when I am searching to help someone, and I have to read
your messages AGAIN, and AGAIN, and AGAIN!!!!!!!

Now, all the OTHER great folks who help others out, will ALSO haveto
read through your message, and my reply, on several different boards!!!!!!

Besides, you ALL really should try out some of the 250 FREE operating
Systems! So that at least I get in some advocasy, here!

http://knopper.net/knoppix
http://freeos.com
http://www.gnu.org
http://bsd.org
http://distrowatch.com

 

[Stacey]

Nope, you are not dumb. But, you do tend to piss folks off when you
cross post to all those newsgroups!!!

You can't remember not to reread their post in other groups? I think I can
remeber the title of their post and no click on it again. And yes he IS
supposed to crosspost rather that repost it individually to different
groups, that does waste bandwidth and server space. There is nothing wrong
with crossposting if it's on topic for all the groups, which this was.

What is he supposed to do, post to one group and hope the person who has the
answer reads that group, if not repost to another?

AND, because I am not certain that you even read one specific newsgroup,
I MUST POST to replies to them ALL!!!!!

Why bother to reply at all if you're not going to even answer their
question?!

Again there is nothing wrong with crossposting if the question is on topic
for the groups it's crossposted to, that's what crossposting was made for.

 

[Dickens]

Nope, you are not dumb. But, you do tend to piss folks off
when you cross post to all those newsgroups!!!

AND, because I am not certain that you even read one specific
newsgroup, I MUST POST to replies to them ALL!!!!!

Sorry to be brusque Patrick but if you can't or won't set crosspost
killing in your newsreader then you can hardly expect me to stop
crossposting to relevant newsgroups.

This is a problem at your end and you need to solve it. if you
must get pissed off then get don't get pissed off at me!

Now, THAT makes ME a bad guy, for being STOOPID in trying to
HELP YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

There are lots of stoopid people on the usenet and you say you are
another. In your case your own claimed stupidity probably comes
from not understanding about crossposting. As one of my previous
links showed you, the The Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval
actually requires a newsreader have the ability to crosspost before
they approve it.

Read it again: http://www.newsreaders.com/gnksa/gnksa.txt

Most of us monitor them ALL, looking to help folks, and your
name and addy pop up in them ALL! NOW, MY reply will,
also!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because you are a good samaritan (and of course that is a good
thing) does not mean that you can unilaterally mandate that people
post inappropriately by *not* crossposting to several groups when
each one is relevant.

I am not crossposting to off-topic groups like
alt.conspiracy.princess-diana or whatever.

Slows me down when I am searching to help someone, and I have
to read your messages AGAIN, and AGAIN, and AGAIN!!!!!!!

May I suggest you use crosspost killing. Are you perhaps confusing
multiple posting (which must be downloaded and seen multiple times)
with crossposting (which does not)?

Now, all the OTHER great folks who help others out, will ALSO
haveto read through your message, and my reply, on several
different boards!!!!!!

They are not complaining so I guess it is mainly a problem you are
having with how you use your newsreader. I should guess that your
Mozilla/5.0 has a crosspost kill feature somewhere. Maybe someone
in news.software.readers who sees this can advise you.

 

[Dino]

Sorry to be brusque Patrick but if you can't or won't set crosspost
killing in your newsreader then you can hardly expect me to stop
crossposting to relevant newsgroups.

This is a problem at your end and you need to solve it. if you
must get pissed off then get don't get pissed off at me!




There are lots of stoopid people on the usenet and you say you are
another. In your case your own claimed stupidity probably comes
from not understanding about crossposting. As one of my previous
links showed you, the The Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval
actually requires a newsreader have the ability to crosspost before
they approve it.

Read it again: http://www.newsreaders.com/gnksa/gnksa.txt




Just because you are a good samaritan (and of course that is a good
thing) does not mean that you can unilaterally mandate that people
post inappropriately by *not* crossposting to several groups when
each one is relevant.

I am not crossposting to off-topic groups like
alt.conspiracy.princess-diana or whatever.





May I suggest you use crosspost killing. Are you perhaps confusing
multiple posting (which must be downloaded and seen multiple times)
with crossposting (which does not)?




They are not complaining so I guess it is mainly a problem you are
having with how you use your newsreader. I should guess that your
Mozilla/5.0 has a crosspost kill feature somewhere. Maybe someone
in news.software.readers who sees this can advise you.

crosspost cancelled

 

[Patrick]

May I suggest you use crosspost killing. Are you perhaps confusing
multiple posting (which must be downloaded and seen multiple times)
with crossposting (which does not)?

They are not complaining so I guess it is mainly a problem you are
having with how you use your newsreader. I should guess that your
Mozilla/5.0 has a crosspost kill feature somewhere. Maybe someone
in news.software.readers who sees this can advise you.

I find no options to kill crossposts, in my mozilla.

But, like my earlier posts about requests to help another person, to
find out what WinME CAB contains the missing 'Control Panel>System'
files, I won't hold my breath to see this 'help'!

Thanks, for YOUR comments!

 

[Blinky the Shark]

They are not complaining so I guess it is mainly a problem you are
having with how you use your newsreader. I should guess that your
Mozilla/5.0 has a crosspost kill feature somewhere. Maybe someone in
news.software.readers who sees this can advise you.

All news clients are not equal. Especially those that are bolt-ons for
browsers.

 

[Noozer]

Really?

Try trimming your posts as well...

crosspost cancelled

 

[CBFalconer]

Nope, you are not dumb. But, you do tend to piss folks off when
you cross post to all those newsgroups!!!

If he had to do that he could have at least set followups to
whereever he actually posted from.

AND, because I am not certain that you even read one specific
newsgroup, I MUST POST to replies to them ALL!!!!!

And this makes you appear dumb. A single reply will go to the
whole crossposted list with any reasonable newsreader.

Now, THAT makes ME a bad guy, for being STOOPID in trying to
HELP YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Most of us monitor them ALL, looking to help folks, and your
name and addy pop up in them ALL! NOW, MY reply will, also!!!

Slows me down when I am searching to help someone, and I have
to read your messages AGAIN, and AGAIN, and AGAIN!!!!!!!

Your reader, which appears to be Mozilla/Netscape, should mark all
the entries in other groups as read and not annoy you with them
again.

 

[Hank]

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When your mind goes blank, remember to turn down the sound
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You can't remember not to reread their post in other groups? I think I can
remeber the title of their post and no click on it again. And yes he IS
supposed to crosspost rather that repost it individually to different
groups, that does waste bandwidth and server space. There is nothing wrong
with crossposting if it's on topic for all the groups, which this was.

What is he supposed to do, post to one group and hope the person who has the
answer reads that group, if not repost to another?


Why bother to reply at all if you're not going to even answer their
question?!

Again there is nothing wrong with crossposting if the question is on topic
for the groups it's crossposted to, that's what crossposting was made for.

Stacey

I'll second that! Cross posting? Big F___ing deal. There's plenty of other
shit going on in the world worth worrying about, expend your energy on one
of them rather than give some poor bastard shit for such a petty thing as
cross posting. Or maybe take up a new hobby or something to help occupy your
time?

Hank

 

[Stacey]

CBFalconer wrote:

Your reader, which appears to be Mozilla/Netscape, should mark all
the entries in other groups as read and not annoy you with them
again.

Especially if you have "view threads with new articles". If he didn't
crosspost it, you -would- see it a dozen times no matter what settings you
used.

I'm not sure what people are thinking when they bitch about someone
crossposting, -that is- the correct way to do it. What's much more
irritating is top posting or not snipping irrelevant text but that's
another topic.

 

[ric]

Again there is nothing wrong with crossposting if the question is on topic
for the groups it's crossposted to, that's what crossposting was made for.

The OP crossposted without including a "REPLY-TO" in his header. That is
what made his crosspost so bad.

 

[ric]

Sorry to be brusque Patrick but if you can't or won't set crosspost
killing in your newsreader then you can hardly expect me to stop
crossposting to relevant newsgroups.

This is a problem at your end and you need to solve it. if you
must get pissed off then get don't get pissed off at me!

You would be correct if you had included a "REPLY-TO" group in your
header. You didn't, so you aren't.

 

[Hank]

The OP crossposted without including a "REPLY-TO" in his header. That is
what made his crosspost so bad.

BFD!

 

[Last Boy Scout]

Why ask such an obvious question.

It is exactly what it looks like.

 

[CBFalconer]

The OP crossposted without including a "REPLY-TO" in his header.
That is what made his crosspost so bad.

You are confusing "REPLY-TO:" with "FOLLOW-UP:"

 

[Dickens]

All news clients are not equal. Especially those that are
bolt-ons for browsers.

Guess so. I would have thought that Mozilla with all the brains
and committees it went through would have just about everything in
its sadly bloated final version.

I must say when I used some of the earliest post-beta Mozillas that
the newsreader was rather poor as it didn't leave much control to
the user e.g. when downloading headers from a new newsgroup. I
kinda thought it was doing stuff (like crosspost killing)
automatically in ther background.

Outlook Express 6 is better. This link refers to OE ver 5.0
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/Evaluations/ms-outlook-express-
5.00.2314.1300.txt> but it mentions crossposting features used only
when actually _making_ the post.

But I know that if OE 6 reads a crossposted message then it marks
it as read in all subsequent header downloads which OE might make
from other groups. Hmmm ... no wonder Peter Norton actually
recommends OE in one of his books.

 

[Dickens]

You would be correct if you had included a "REPLY-TO" group in
your header. You didn't, so you aren't.

I think you mean FOLLOWUP-TO rather than REPLY-TO which is for an
alternate email.

It has always seemed to me that FOLLOWUP-TO is an inconsiderate way
of using the Usenet because it forces all users to go to a newgroup
to see the replies in the thread even if they do not normally visit
that newsgroup.

The result is that often users ignore the FOLLOWUP-TO and they post
back to the group in which they read the original message.

BTW I don't see you using this feature, although Blinky did.
However I don't much read the group he pointed to in his FOLLOWUP-
TO so I widened it to the groups I go to and included the group he
wanted and which I originally brought into the thread.

Dickens