Web radio program?

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I don't have broadband, but my father does. He asked me about listening to
the radio from distant cities. I installed a new XP home on his box, but
have no idea if/how this is possible. Is there a freeware program that does
this? Or do I need to install a card? Thanks for any input;;
 
Nash said:
I don't have broadband, but my father does. He asked me about listening to
the radio from distant cities. I installed a new XP home on his box, but
have no idea if/how this is possible. Is there a freeware program that does
this? Or do I need to install a card? Thanks for any input;;

A few radio and tv stations provide a live feed on the internet,
accessible using an ordinary web browser. However, the program will have
to be run through some sort of media player software. There are
different formats used.

If he wants to listen to public radio programs, excellent talk shows are
often archived at the individual stations and every program is available
via simple menus. The key here is that broadcasters own the copyrghts to
this material; being public, there's no problem for them to upload it.
Most public stations in the USA that produce their own programs stream
exclusively with Real Networks technology. So does the BBC. A welcome
exception is the program _On The Media_ (highly recommended)from WNYC in
New York: this program is streamed and/or downloaded only in MP3.

I think that virtually everyone on this newsgroup will caution you
against installing Real Player in order to listen to Real streams. The
reason is that Real Player takes over the (victim's) computer to a
degree that boggles my mind -- and severly compromises its performance
even when the Real software is shut down. Installing Real Player on my
computer made over FIVE THOUSAND changes to my operating system. Once
this software has been installed, chances are that it won't ever be
possible to reverse the installation and completely remove it (I was
able to, but that's a whole 'nother story).

You can play Real streams with free alternatives -- search this
newsgroup for more intormation.

You may be pleased to know that you, too, can listen to this excellent
programming over dialup service. The sound will be compromised. But Real
streams often sound almost as bad as cell phone service, so the
difference between running them via broadband vs. running them via
dialup isn't that great, especially when your material is speech.

What you'll need is a web browser (you already have at least one) and a
media player capable of rendering Real streams via a third-party set of
special files in order to decode Real streams.

Such players are: Media Player Classic; JetAudio, and one other I can't
recall. I'm fairly sure that JetAudio contains some form of light
spyware associated with its digital rights management. MPC does not.
Both players are freeware. There's also a routine that uses one or two
sets of plugins with IrfanView, which is a wonderful image
manipulation/viewer free program.

Public and listener-supported sources are:
BBC
WNYC (New York)
KQED (San Francisco)
WBUR (Boston)
WBEZ (Chicago)
Pacifica Foundation
I recall that National Public Radio provides service, too, but I've
never been able to make it work probably because I'm using security
routines that block it.

In my own case, I've been downloading programs from these sources
directly to C-120 audio cassettes for later listening on a personal
stereo. I'll soon change this to an MP3 player because I can't keep
repairing my cassette recording decks forever, and I keep trashing the
little stereos when they fall off my belt -- these little machines are
impossible to find any more of any decent quality, and the cassettes
themselves will become scarce.

So, I think that you're all set!

Does this ring your chimes?

Richard
 
Nash Rambler said:
I don't have broadband, but my father does. He asked me about listening to
the radio from distant cities. I installed a new XP home on his box, but
have no idea if/how this is possible. Is there a freeware program that does
this? Or do I need to install a card? Thanks for any input;;
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http://www.blindradio.com/
I love this link which lists active radio staitions around the world. It is
for all age groups and all music types.
Next to each chosen radio station is a link to the free software download
needed to listen to it.
Enjoy!
Dribbler
 
On 13 Jul 2005, Nash Rambler wrote
I don't have broadband, but my father does. He asked me about
listening to the radio from distant cities. I installed a new XP
home on his box, but have no idea if/how this is possible. Is
there a freeware program that does this? Or do I need to install a
card? Thanks for any input;;
There are some dedicated players around -- do a search fo "Viddi Radio
Player", which works quite well -- but as the others have said the most
common way to access radio is through your standard web browser (which
will should call up an appropriate media player if you've got that
installed on your machine).

Richard's right about RealPlayer -- to be avoided -- and the
alternative is excitingly called "Real Alternative". You can download
it (along with Media Player Classic, which replaces the front-end of
RealPlayer) from http://www.free-
codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm

There are two kinds of station, of course: streams from normall on-air
broadcasters in various countries (like the BBC and the CBC, which I
listen to quite often), and "Internet Radio" stations, which broadcaast
only over the Internet.

I don't know what people's views in here are on WinAmp (downloadable
from http://www.winamp.com/), but that comes with a large number of
radio listings (and Internet TV streams, as well), which might be worth
looking at.
 
I don't have broadband, but my father does. He asked me about
listening to the radio from distant cities. I installed a new XP home
on his box, but have no idea if/how this is possible. Is there a
freeware program that does this? Or do I need to install a card?
Thanks for any input;;

You might take a look at this one, http://www.screamer-radio.com/

About Screamer Radio

There is little reason to listen to commercial FM radio anymore, it is an
old medium that provides little choice of music and is saturated with
ads. For the last couple of years there has been an alternative,
streaming internet radio. An alternative that has been somewhat
complicated to use.

Screamer Radio attempts to remedy this problem by bringing most of the
required steps into a single, easy to use, freeware program.
 
On 13 Jul 2005, Global Warming wrote
You might take a look at this one, http://www.screamer-radio.com/

About Screamer Radio

There is little reason to listen to commercial FM radio anymore,
it is an old medium that provides little choice of music and is
saturated with ads. For the last couple of years there has been an
alternative, streaming internet radio. An alternative that has
been somewhat complicated to use.

Screamer Radio attempts to remedy this problem by bringing most of
the required steps into a single, easy to use, freeware program.

Good suggestion; must try that.

My experience has been that Internet Radio is fine if one's looking for
specific types of music or topics, but that it inevitably lacks the
sense of listening to a specific place (complete with their weather
forecasts, time checks, and local news flashes).

I could be wrong, but the OP's comment that his father wants to hear
radio "from distant cities" would suggest that he needs to access
geographically-specific stations (that is, real-world stations rather
than the virtual world of Internet radio).
 
On 13 Jul 2005, Harvey Van Sickle wrote
On 13 Jul 2005, Global Warming wrote
-snip-


Good suggestion; must try that.

What a promising-looking program! And in spite of what it implies in
that description, it accesses geographic/normal FM stations (like CBC
Radio in Canada, and Virgin in the UK) -- many thanks for pointing
towards it.
 
Dribbler said:
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http://www.blindradio.com/
I love this link which lists active radio staitions around the world. It is
for all age groups and all music types.
Next to each chosen radio station is a link to the free software download
needed to listen to it.
Enjoy!
Dribbler
Thanks for that,

Lh
 
Nash Rambler said:
I don't have broadband, but my father does. He asked me about listening to
the radio from distant cities. I installed a new XP home on his box, but
have no idea if/how this is possible. Is there a freeware program that
does
this? Or do I need to install a card? Thanks for any input;;
Screamer Radio
www.screamer-radio.com

Screamer Radio is a freeware Internet Radio player for Microsoft Windows.


-- Version 0.3.7

* Screamer wouldn't play WMA streams over HTTP if URL didn't
have .wma or .asf
* Recording bitrate could be wrong sometimes
+ Balloon popups in tray
+ Now using zlib to download deflated (gzipped) presets,
this will save me (and you) a little bandwith
+ Added .wax as possible playlist extension
+ Somewhat more sophisticated parsing of asx-playlists
* Screamer Radio wouldn't start minimized even if a Windows
shortcut said so
* Upgraded BASS to 2.1.0.5
* Upgraded BASSWMA to 2.1.0.2, fixing a server playlist bug, thanks Ian!
* Balloon popups now only updated when necessary, silly code :)
* Screamer Radio no longer remembers recording state between sessions
* Audio is now unmuted on connect
+ New copy to clipboard option, copy the playlist URL
* Renamed 'lang.default.xml' to 'lang.english.xml'
+ It's now easier to select language file, Settings -> Language
* Log window would steal focus sometimes
+ Single song recording mode, enable it in the recording menu


* Means something was changed/fixed
+ Means something was added
- Means something was removed
//BEGEs
 
Dribbler said:
http://www.blindradio.com/
I love this link which lists active radio staitions around the world. It is
for all age groups and all music types.
Next to each chosen radio station is a link to the free software download
needed to listen to it.

Thanks.
Good site; well constructed, too. The red bar is a bit harsh on my eyes,
but it's all there.

Richard
 
Harvey said:
I don't know what people's views in here are on WinAmp (downloadable
from http://www.winamp.com/), but that comes with a large number of
radio listings (and Internet TV streams, as well), which might be worth
looking at.

For a time, I tried WinAmp and perhaps three or four similar products. I
had troubles of various kinds with all of them.

I think, of course, that when a product is well developed, the entity
that made it will have to get money coming in for sustenance. They'll
need to get it either from us cheapskates, or failing that, from
advertisers. When going the second route, the product and/or especially
their advertising partners, can employ technologies and methods that
will be abusive to us.

The most memorable freeware that I've tried recently has come from very
dedicated college students. The glitzier media players (the "skinnable"
ones)seemed to have gone in the direction of abuseware. Each has gotten
on the Digital Rights Management bandwagon, which messes up usability
and, in my opinion, puts tentacles into the operating system that amount
to embedded spyware -- nasty stuff. Some just don't sound good. Also,
there's the issue of propretary formats: Real and MP3 are encumbered --
some try to get around the MP3 license with pseudo MP3, which can sound
pseudo, too.

Sorry, but as I write this, I'm still groggy and I just can't conjure up
the names of the programs that I've tried and abandoned. Well, Zinf is
one. JetAudio is another (well crafted and into DRM).

Right now, my hopes are in freeware that were put out there by
hobbyists: Media Player Classic and Irfanview (with audio plugins). At
this point, I haven't tried the Irfanview route and I'm using an older
version of MPC (which is pretty klutzy to use).

Richard
 
Global said:
About Screamer Radio

There is little reason to listen to commercial FM radio anymore, it is an
old medium that provides little choice of music and is saturated with
ads. For the last couple of years there has been an alternative,
streaming internet radio. An alternative that has been somewhat
complicated to use.

Screamer Radio attempts to remedy this problem by bringing most of the
required steps into a single, easy to use, freeware program.

Whoops -- I thought that you wrote this until I found it on your link.
Very interesting; I'll try it.

As an audio professional, I just about agree about FM in the USA. I
don't see any reason to own a good FM tuner any more -- there's no music
worth high quality equipment on the radio.

For public affairs broadcasting aside from listener-sponsored stations,
those very few that aren't hard right-wing dogma screamers are so
chopped up with ads that there's no continuity. In fact, maybe that's
the MO: hold the listener with hyped up righteous indignation (both
political extremes).

Richard

Richard
 
About Screamer Radio

There is little reason to listen to commercial FM radio anymore,
it is an old medium that provides little choice of music and is
saturated with ads. For the last couple of years there has been
an alternative, streaming internet radio. An alternative that has
been somewhat complicated to use.

Screamer Radio attempts to remedy this problem by bringing most
of the required steps into a single, easy to use, freeware
program.

Whoops -- I thought that you wrote this until I found it on your
link. Very interesting; I'll try it.

As an audio professional, I just about agree about FM in the USA.
I don't see any reason to own a good FM tuner any more -- there's
no music worth high quality equipment on the radio.[/QUOTE]

Curiously, though, some of the stations that Screamer has as presets
are over-the-air FM stations (CBC Radio in Canada, which is publicly
owned with no ads, but the 3 Virgin stations from here in the UK are
alll commmercial FM ones).

Great program though -- it even has built-in stream capture.
 
Harvey Van Sickle said:
What a promising-looking program! And in spite of what it implies
in that description, it accesses geographic/normal FM stations
(like CBC Radio in Canada, and Virgin in the UK) -- many thanks
for pointing towards it.

Do not forget to check screamer-radio's forum to get nice webradios'
urls.
 
On 13 Jul 2005, Frank Bohan wrote
Take a look at:

-snip a whole bunch of good URLs-

Meant entirely as a polite request, Frank -- could you trim the
attributions when you respond to a "higher-up-the-thread" post like
this?

(There wasn't any quoted material from me or Global Warming in there,
and it tends to confuse things when we're not deleted from the
attributions list.)
 
I don't have broadband, but my father does. He asked me about listening to
the radio from distant cities. I installed a new XP home on his box, but
have no idea if/how this is possible. Is there a freeware program that does
this? Or do I need to install a card? Thanks for any input;;


Here's some dial-up and broadband TV
stations you might like. This is a good
website to explore TV on Internet.

http://wwitv.com/portal.htm
 

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