Want to play VCD od DVD on home DVD player not PC


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- Bobb -

I've been looking online for a basic intro and overwhelmed with details.
What I'm trying to do:
I have jpg,avi's from my digital camera that I'd like to send to family to
watch on a store-bought DVD player.
I've been wasting a few days trying to make this happen with moviemaker
and Nero.

I've created +R, - R , VCDs - ok on PC and then I bring into my living
room - insert the CD/DVD and get an error. It won't load. I have Nero 7
and thought it had ability to do this - when I choose Make DVD and browse,
it's looking for vob files ( isn't that DVD stuff already?), so I tried
Data - DVD - browse - still avi, wmv is not "good". Nero Express - same
thing.

I have jpg, avi, wmv files only

Can someone tell me WHAT app to use /buy/download so that I can: take my
camera jpg pictures and avi files - from a folder on my PC - and burn them
to a VCD or DVD that will work in any DVD player to view on a TV ( not PC)

I thought this would be pretty simple .. digital pictures / digital
CD/DVD - copy - create - done. Ha!
I.m not trying to be fancy. I don't want to be Steven Spielberg, I just
want to have my files viewable on a DVD player.

Thanks very much for pointers.
Bobb
 
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RA

- Bobb - said:
I've been looking online for a basic intro and overwhelmed with
details. What I'm trying to do:
I have jpg,avi's from my digital camera that I'd like to send to
family to watch on a store-bought DVD player.
I've been wasting a few days trying to make this happen with
moviemaker and Nero.

I've created +R, - R , VCDs - ok on PC and then I bring into my living
room - insert the CD/DVD and get an error. It won't load. I have
Nero 7 and thought it had ability to do this - when I choose Make DVD
and browse, it's looking for vob files ( isn't that DVD stuff
already?), so I tried Data - DVD - browse - still avi, wmv is not
"good". Nero Express - same thing.

I have jpg, avi, wmv files only

Can someone tell me WHAT app to use /buy/download so that I can: take
my camera jpg pictures and avi files - from a folder on my PC - and
burn them to a VCD or DVD that will work in any DVD player to view on
a TV ( not PC)
I thought this would be pretty simple .. digital pictures / digital
CD/DVD - copy - create - done. Ha!
I.m not trying to be fancy. I don't want to be Steven Spielberg, I
just want to have my files viewable on a DVD player.

Thanks very much for pointers.
Bobb

I think the problem isn't your disk or Nero. It is the machine you are
trying to play them on. I was really frustrated trying to do the same thing.
My sister sent me a disk of jpgs that she burned and could see on her DVD
player on her TV. I could not see them on my DVD player. My DVD player was
only a year older than hers. Later in the year we purchased a new DVD player
for another TV in the house and it played the disk just fine.
 
G

Graham Hughes

Bobb,
First a warning.
Not all dvd players will play vcd's, so you cannot have a 100% guarantee of
it working, even if you could do it ;)
Not all dvd players will play a dvd you make.........

But maybe 99% will

Nero have some good tutorials for there app here
http://www.nero.com/nero7/enu/Tutorials.html
But they do do several versions and only the full version will make dvds and
possibly vcd's.

I don't have nero installed so I can't be precise, but there should be two
options for making the dvd, one as you've found will write dvd folders
already made, the other will create a dvd. This will take dv.avi files and
create the mpegs and vobs that you need. If you don't have this option then
you most likely haven't got the full version.

I would plump for making a dvd over a vcd or even svcd as dvd quality and
compatibility is far better.

Now, you can either buy the full version of nero, or opt for another app to
do this. There are many.
Ulead do Movie factory, which is great for making dvds, they also do
videostudio, which will import/edit adn create a dvd all in one. Free
trials are available.
Adobe do premiere elements 3, which will imoprt/edit and create dvds, also
very good a free trial is also available.

The list could go on, but these offer perhaps best value for your money.
They will also most likely work with your camera's files, whereas MM may
not.
 
K

Kenneth J. Harris

If you have Nero 7, to make a DVD of your photos (JPG's) I believe that
what you want to use is the function "Make Photo Slideshow (DVD)". You
don't want to make a data DVD if you want it to work on DVD players.
This is what I have read--I don't use Nero myself.

Ken
 
G

Graham Hughes

RA, new dvd players will play jpeg slideshows, so you don't have to author a
dvd, but for compatibility you are best off making a proper dvd.
 
G

Graham Hughes

Kenneth,
I'm not sure if this is the right option, because I thik it makes a jpeg
slideshow on a dvd, and this is not very compatible with dvd players, you
need to author a dvd.
 
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John Inzer

- Bobb - said:
I've been looking online for a basic intro and overwhelmed with
details. What I'm trying to do:
I have jpg,avi's from my digital camera that I'd like to send to
family to watch on a store-bought DVD player.
I've been wasting a few days trying to make this happen with
moviemaker and Nero.

I've created +R, - R , VCDs - ok on PC and then I bring into my living
room - insert the CD/DVD and get an error. It won't load. I have
Nero 7 and thought it had ability to do this - when I choose Make DVD
and browse, it's looking for vob files ( isn't that DVD stuff
already?), so I tried Data - DVD - browse - still avi, wmv is not
"good". Nero Express - same thing.

I have jpg, avi, wmv files only

Can someone tell me WHAT app to use /buy/download so that I can: take
my camera jpg pictures and avi files - from a folder on my PC - and
burn them to a VCD or DVD that will work in any DVD player to view on
a TV ( not PC)
I thought this would be pretty simple .. digital pictures / digital
CD/DVD - copy - create - done. Ha!
I.m not trying to be fancy. I don't want to be Steven Spielberg, I
just want to have my files viewable on a DVD player.

Thanks very much for pointers.
Bobb
================================
Since you have Nero...
NeroVision 4...may be the app you're looking for.

Nero Vision 4 – Video Editing and Authoring
http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/Nero_Vision_4.html

User Guide / Help File for Nero Vision 4
http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/User_Guide_Vision_4.html

Two thoughts...some DVD players will not
play home made VCDs / DVDs...Why? Who
knows but they won't.

DVD blanks come in many different types
and brands. I'm not telling you to purchase the
following type but I can say I've had good luck
using them:

Verbatim DVD-R 16X
http://tinyurl.com/y59z9e

More Info:

Turn your Movie Maker 2
video into a DVD
http://tinyurl.com/4k97d

Wojo's Web...DVD Creation
http://tinyurl.com/g64gb

Burn a Movie Maker Project to DVD
http://tinyurl.com/644me

How do I make a DVD
http://www.rehanfx.org/faq.htm

Windows Movie Maker Forums
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/

Movie Maker 2 and DVD Burning Software
http://www.papajohn.org/MM2-DVD.html

Burning DVDs With Windows Movie Maker 2
http://tinyurl.com/jqfz

How do I save my movie as a
DV-AVI file in Movie Maker?
http://tinyurl.com/8ktlw

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
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dobey

- Bobb - said:
I've been looking online for a basic intro and overwhelmed with details.
What I'm trying to do:
I have jpg,avi's from my digital camera that I'd like to send to family to
watch on a store-bought DVD player.
I've been wasting a few days trying to make this happen with moviemaker
and Nero.

I've created +R, - R , VCDs - ok on PC and then I bring into my living
room - insert the CD/DVD and get an error. It won't load. I have Nero 7
and thought it had ability to do this - when I choose Make DVD and browse,
it's looking for vob files ( isn't that DVD stuff already?), so I tried
Data - DVD - browse - still avi, wmv is not "good". Nero Express - same
thing.

I have jpg, avi, wmv files only

Can someone tell me WHAT app to use /buy/download so that I can: take my
camera jpg pictures and avi files - from a folder on my PC - and burn them
to a VCD or DVD that will work in any DVD player to view on a TV ( not PC)

I thought this would be pretty simple .. digital pictures / digital
CD/DVD - copy - create - done. Ha!
I.m not trying to be fancy. I don't want to be Steven Spielberg, I just
want to have my files viewable on a DVD player.

Thanks very much for pointers.
Bobb

Try Doom9 forums. There are plenty of DVD authoring tutorials out there.

Generally speaking you want to create a DVD Video disk. These are different
in format from a DVD data disc, and the videos need to be in mpeg2 format
which is what DVD video authoring tools do.

Some versions of Nero have a tool to do this. Not to be confused with the
Nero tool that takes files already converted to mpeg2 and puts them on a
DVD. Your files will need to be re-encoded.

JPGs should be fine on a normal data CD. I expect by now most players are
JPG compatible.

When you create a DVD video disk, it should be set as DVD-ROM and don't use
RW, (except for testing if you can), when burnt for maximum compatibility.
There are however some machines that don't like certain brands of disks for
some unknown reason, so that will be a suck it and see approach.
 
B

- Bobb -

John Inzer said:
================================
Since you have Nero...
NeroVision 4...may be the app you're looking for.

Nero Vision 4 - Video Editing and Authoring
http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/Nero_Vision_4.html

User Guide / Help File for Nero Vision 4
http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/User_Guide_Vision_4.html

OK - one thing I noticed :
I created the avi with moviemaker: but when I play it back with Media
Player on XP, the video is about 3" across. When I burned it , it showed
640x480 - what happened there ? I opened with QuickTime and looked fine. I
have WMP set to "fit screen to video" and 100% so expected big window.

Burning to DVD with Nero Vision 4 now.
Will update when finished.
Thanks,
Bobb
 
B

- Bobb -

RA said:
I think the problem isn't your disk or Nero. It is the machine you are
trying to play them on. I was really frustrated trying to do the same
thing. My sister sent me a disk of jpgs that she burned and could see on
her DVD player on her TV. I could not see them on my DVD player. My DVD
player was only a year older than hers. Later in the year we purchased a
new DVD player for another TV in the house and it played the disk just
fine.

That's how it seems, but : the DVD ( HP and Sony) burners in my PC have
the little logos stating that THEY meet the standards, so ( he asked
rhetorically) if there is a STANDARD for VCD's and DVD's , how can a
company make a DVD player that cannot play "standard" DVD's ? It is NOT
like I'm trying to watch a PAL tape on a VHS deck. The manufacturers set
the standards - not us. Even when I tried the HIGHMAT ( old ) VCD
standard, it failed on 2 of my DVD players. Trying burn again - now with
NeroVision4.
 
B

- Bobb -

- Bobb - said:
OK - one thing I noticed :
I created the avi with moviemaker: but when I play it back with Media
Player on XP, the video is about 3" across. When I burned it , it showed
640x480 - what happened there ? I opened with QuickTime and looked fine.
I have WMP set to "fit screen to video" and 100% so expected big window.

Burning to DVD with Nero Vision 4 now.
Will update when finished.
Thanks,
Bobb
Yeah - using Nero Vision4 to burn,
DVD now plays in living room DVD player !

Burned to VCD too but VCD still won't load there though.
More research needed here.
Off to read those links.
Thanks guys
Bobb
 
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John Inzer

- Bobb - said:
Yeah - using Nero Vision4 to burn,
DVD now plays in living room DVD player !

Burned to VCD too but VCD still won't load there though.
More research needed here.
Off to read those links.
Thanks guys
Bobb
==============================
At least something is working right.

Some DVD players will not play VCDs.
Check your DVD player's documentation.

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
M

M.I.5¾

- Bobb - said:
I've been looking online for a basic intro and overwhelmed with details.
What I'm trying to do:
I have jpg,avi's from my digital camera that I'd like to send to family to
watch on a store-bought DVD player.
I've been wasting a few days trying to make this happen with moviemaker
and Nero.

I've created +R, - R , VCDs - ok on PC and then I bring into my living
room - insert the CD/DVD and get an error. It won't load. I have Nero 7
and thought it had ability to do this - when I choose Make DVD and browse,
it's looking for vob files ( isn't that DVD stuff already?), so I tried
Data - DVD - browse - still avi, wmv is not "good". Nero Express - same
thing.

I have jpg, avi, wmv files only

Can someone tell me WHAT app to use /buy/download so that I can: take my
camera jpg pictures and avi files - from a folder on my PC - and burn them
to a VCD or DVD that will work in any DVD player to view on a TV ( not PC)

I thought this would be pretty simple .. digital pictures / digital
CD/DVD - copy - create - done. Ha!
I.m not trying to be fancy. I don't want to be Steven Spielberg, I just
want to have my files viewable on a DVD player.

Not all standalone video DVD/CD players recognise picture CDs.

But the situation with picture DVDs is worse. This is one of those
ambiguities. The DVD was not intended to hold picture files for playing in
a standalone DVD player. However, the spec was somewhat ambiguous on the
point and as a result, there are players that will recognise and play such
disks.

Your best bet is to use a DVD video editing package that will accept image
files. I believe Windows' own Movie Maker does do this, but I am unable to
check as this machine doesn't have it.

Sonic produces an application that does precisely what you want, and it is
provided with many of the top line DVD/CD burning packages. It is called
MyDVD, but beware that Sonic also produced a far older but identically named
application that had a very different purpose.
 
B

- Bobb -

John,

Even when I try on my PC it doesn't 'work right'. If I could ask a few
questions about VCD's ... ( VCD 101)

1 Shouldn't there be an AUTOPLAY function/option?
If I drag the AVSEQ01.DAT file to WMP then it plays OK, but just
inserting into CD player does nothing. I just burned another one - same
thing. I see only the 4 folders at root level. In NeroVision4 I see no
option for autoplay. right-click on drive with burned VCD inserted- no
option for autoplay, so I suspect that's why it 'won't load' - normally a
GOOD VCD/DVD loads to some menu, right ?

2. Assuming it DID work OK, how does it load - to get to ' The Menu I
made' ? Is that a pointer inside one of those folders ? Or should be a
root level ?

3. A big picture question :
If I bring film to CVS and tell them to put it on a VCD for me, that has
never failed to work when I/family/neighbors get it home. Put it in - it
plays - on a pc, dvd player - never had an issue. What do THEY do to that
media - anyone know ?

Thanks again.
 
B

- Bobb -

M.I.5¾ said:
Not all standalone video DVD/CD players recognise picture CDs.

But the situation with picture DVDs is worse. This is one of those
ambiguities. The DVD was not intended to hold picture files for playing
in a standalone DVD player. However, the spec was somewhat ambiguous on
the point and as a result, there are players that will recognise and
play such disks.

Your best bet is to use a DVD video editing package that will accept
image files. I believe Windows' own Movie Maker does do this, but I am
unable to check as this machine doesn't have it.

Sonic produces an application that does precisely what you want, and it
is provided with many of the top line DVD/CD burning packages. It is
called MyDVD, but beware that Sonic also produced a far older but
identically named application that had a very different purpose.
I have that on one of my laptops - powering up now
Thank you.

will update later ( battery dead on laptop)
 
J

John Inzer

- Bobb - said:
John,

Even when I try on my PC it doesn't 'work right'. If I could ask a few
questions about VCD's ... ( VCD 101)

1 Shouldn't there be an AUTOPLAY function/option?
If I drag the AVSEQ01.DAT file to WMP then it plays OK, but just
inserting into CD player does nothing. I just burned another one -
same thing. I see only the 4 folders at root level. In NeroVision4 I
see no option for autoplay. right-click on drive with burned VCD
inserted- no option for autoplay, so I suspect that's why it 'won't
load' - normally a GOOD VCD/DVD loads to some menu, right ?
==============================
I'm no expert on VCDs but I'll try to offer some
ideas. If the VCD is burned correctly and if you
have a decoder installed like PowerDVD or
WinDVD...the VCD should auto-load and you
should not have to access the file structure
of the disk.
==============================
2. Assuming it DID work OK, how does it load - to get to ' The Menu I
made' ? Is that a pointer inside one of those folders ? Or should be a
root level ?
===============================
If you have decoding software installed like
PowerDVD or WinDVD...the the VCD should
auto-load.
===============================
3. A big picture question :
If I bring film to CVS and tell them to put it on a VCD for me, that
has never failed to work when I/family/neighbors get it home. Put it
in - it plays - on a pc, dvd player - never had an issue. What do
THEY do to that media - anyone know ?

Thanks again.
================================
I suspect they use powerful authoring software.
It would be interesting to ask them what they
use. I know this is not much help but maybe
someone else will offer some ideas.

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
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Graham Hughes

HiMat is not vcd.

The burners may meet the standards, but that doesn't mean that teh
programmes do, it doesn't mean that you change settings to make a dvd out of
the standards, it doesn't mean that your player will play both +/- discs, it
may only play one of them, it doesn't mean that it can read all makes of
discs and types of dyes, it doesn't mean that the burner can burn a deep
enough track to be read, etc etc.


There are so many variables.
 
F

farmer47sd-google

I've been looking online for a basic intro and overwhelmed with details.
What I'm trying to do:
I have jpg,avi's from my digital camera that I'd like to send to family to
watch on a store-bought DVD player.
I've been wasting a few days trying to make this happen with moviemaker
and Nero.

I've created +R, - R , VCDs - ok on PC and then I bring into my living
room - insert the CD/DVD and get an error. It won't load. I have Nero 7
and thought it had ability to do this - when I choose Make DVD and browse,
it's looking for vob files ( isn't that DVD stuff already?), so I tried
Data - DVD - browse - still avi, wmv is not "good". Nero Express - same
thing.

I have jpg, avi, wmv files only

Can someone tell me WHAT app to use /buy/download so that I can: take my
camera jpg pictures and avi files - from a folder on my PC - and burn them
to a VCD or DVD that will work in any DVD player to view on a TV ( not PC)

I thought this would be pretty simple .. digital pictures / digital
CD/DVD - copy - create - done. Ha!
I.m not trying to be fancy. I don't want to be Steven Spielberg, I just
want to have my files viewable on a DVD player.

Thanks very much for pointers.
Bobb

I normally don't recommend M$ but their Windows Movie Maker is free.
I've used it for making both picture show and video DVDs. They seem
to play fine on my GO VIDEO player. My daughter was also able to play
them on her player. This may be a cheap way out for you.

I'm tired of paying the big buck for M$ products and found that the
Ashampoo Burning Studio 7 works well for me also. The only problem
I'm having is working with the disc menus. I'd also recommend putting
all videos/picture shows on at the same time. Adding to existing DVDs
has been a challenge for me.

THX, Nick
 
B

- Bobb -

I normally don't recommend M$ but their Windows Movie Maker is free.
I've used it for making both picture show and video DVDs. They seem
to play fine on my GO VIDEO player. My daughter was also able to play
them on her player. This may be a cheap way out for you.

I'm tired of paying the big buck for M$ products and found that the
Ashampoo Burning Studio 7 works well for me also. The only problem
I'm having is working with the disc menus. I'd also recommend putting
all videos/picture shows on at the same time. Adding to existing DVDs
has been a challenge for me.

THX, Nick
I did use Moviemaker but output was wmv. Didn't play for me on DVD player.
BUT - an
UPDATE: for the DVD / VCDs that I made with Nero Vision ....that would
NOT play on my living room DVD players .... I brought them to my sister's
house ( she wanted the videos) and they BOTH played fine - automatically-
on her Sony DVD player. So to those who said it was my players- you are
right. Apparently my 'Consumer Reports recommended' Samsung and Panasonic
model DVD players won't play them ( I thought it was a 'burning issue' on
my part/ burning app problem). So, what I'll do is take those VCD/DVDs to
Circuit City/ Best Buy and try to view them on new TV compatible DVD
player/burners. Only if they play will I buy that model. I recommend that
to others too. ( I'll take that moviemaker wmv cd with me too)
Thanks guys.
 
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dobey

- Bobb - said:
I did use Moviemaker but output was wmv. Didn't play for me on DVD player.
BUT - an
UPDATE: for the DVD / VCDs that I made with Nero Vision ....that would
NOT play on my living room DVD players .... I brought them to my sister's
house ( she wanted the videos) and they BOTH played fine - automatically-
on her Sony DVD player. So to those who said it was my players- you are
right. Apparently my 'Consumer Reports recommended' Samsung and Panasonic
model DVD players won't play them ( I thought it was a 'burning issue' on
my part/ burning app problem). So, what I'll do is take those VCD/DVDs to
Circuit City/ Best Buy and try to view them on new TV compatible DVD
player/burners. Only if they play will I buy that model. I recommend that
to others too. ( I'll take that moviemaker wmv cd with me too)
Thanks guys.

Unless a DVD player has the WMV codecs it probably won't play.

You might like to try a different brand of disc. There are varying reports
of compatibility.

There are plenty of forums devoted to DVD players and many posters there
experiment with this sort of thing.

Are you setting the disc type as DVD-ROM when burning? This can have an
impact as it fools the player into thinking the disc in a DVD-ROM instead of
a DVD-R or DVD+R.

FWIW the mass produced DVD videos are pressed, not written as they are in a
DVD writer.
 

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