W2k3 DNS in NT4 domain


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Guest

The current NT4 domain has a PDC with DHCP and WINS on it.

Need to properly configure DNS Server, and then install AD on a new (W2k3)
box.
For some strange reason (Windows 2003 Server – member server) DNS Server has
no _msdcs,_sites,_tcp, _udp folders. I see only my domain name under FL Zones
and 192.168.0.x Subnet under RL Zones.

BTW: The new DNS domain name is DOMAIN.LOCAL, and the old NT4 domain name is
DOMAIN.

Uninstalling and reinstalling DNS Server doesn’t help. When trying to
install AD on the new box getting the following error message:

" …

The error was: "DNS name does not exist."
(error code 0x0000232B RCODE_NAME_ERROR)

The query was for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domainname

Common causes of this error include the following:

The DNS SRV record is not registered in DNS.

… "

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Jim
 
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Jorge_de_Almeida_Pinto

The current NT4 domain has a PDC with DHCP and WINS on it.

Need to properly configure DNS Server, and then install AD on
a new (W2k3)
box.
For some strange reason (Windows 2003 Server – member
server) DNS Server has
no _msdcs,_sites,_tcp, _udp folders. I see only my domain name
under FL Zones
and 192.168.0.x Subnet under RL Zones.

BTW: The new DNS domain name is DOMAIN.LOCAL, and the old NT4
domain name is
DOMAIN.

Uninstalling and reinstalling DNS Server doesn’t help. When
trying to
install AD on the new box getting the following error message:

" …

The error was: "DNS name does not exist."
(error code 0x0000232B RCODE_NAME_ERROR)

The query was for the SRV record for
_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domainname

Common causes of this error include the following:

The DNS SRV record is not registered in DNS.

… "

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Jim

to introduce w2k3 dcs into your nt4 domain you first need to upgrade
the PDC first

see for more info:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/upgrading/nt4/upgradeassistance/default.mspx
 
G

Guest

Thanks for reply Jorge_de_Almeida_Pinto.

Yes, I installed a fresh NT4 DC, which I will promote into PDC and upgrade
to w2k3.
But how will that resolve my existing DNS server problems?
 
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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]

Tom said:
Thanks for reply Jorge_de_Almeida_Pinto.

Yes, I installed a fresh NT4 DC, which I will promote into PDC and
upgrade to w2k3.
But how will that resolve my existing DNS server problems?

Can you post an unedited ipconfig /all from the Win2k3 DC?

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Kevin,

Thank you for reply.

I will post ipconfig results tomorrow (well ... already today).
Unfortunately, there is no Win2k3 DC yet. We inherited the following domain:

Several NT4 DCs (PDC – DHCP and WINS, DCs - Exchange 5.5, SQL 7, RAS).
Win2k3 member server – DNS, Blackberry Server.
26xx Cisco router connecting us to ISP.

All machines (servers, clients) use the routers IP as Default Gateway
(TCP/IP configuration), there are also several DNS servers listed (hard
coded) – our DNS server and DNS servers of our ISP.

Most of the clients (XP/Win2k) use static IP configuration ( I guess the
previous guy didn't trust the DHCP server ;) )

We are trying to move everything to Win2k3 (new boxes – can't reuse old
hardware), and need a properly configured DNS server. But the existing
(Win2k3) box doesn't want to play nice (please see the error in the original
post).

Thanks again.
 
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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]

Tom said:
Kevin,

Thank you for reply.

I will post ipconfig results tomorrow (well ... already today).
Unfortunately, there is no Win2k3 DC yet.

Then, there is no reason for you to expect these sub folders and or the SRV
records they would contain. These are Active Directory folders.

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OK.
We already installed a new (temporary) NT4 DC, going to promote it to PDC,
and upgrade to Win2k3. Then add a new Win2k3 (permanent box), and remove the
temporary Win2k3 server.

Will the existing DNS server be able to support the plan, or should we
completely uninstall it? But then most likely the first (temporary)
NT4-to-Win2k3 upgrade will try to install DNS, and we probably don’t want it
on the temp box (?)

We already tried to skip the intermediate step (described above), and add
Win2k3 DC to the existing domain, but received the error listed in the
original post.

Thank you.
 
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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]

Tom said:
OK.
We already installed a new (temporary) NT4 DC, going to promote it to
PDC, and upgrade to Win2k3. Then add a new Win2k3 (permanent box),
and remove the temporary Win2k3 server.

Will the existing DNS server be able to support the plan, or should we
completely uninstall it? But then most likely the first (temporary)
NT4-to-Win2k3 upgrade will try to install DNS, and we probably don't
want it on the temp box (?)

We already tried to skip the intermediate step (described above), and
add Win2k3 DC to the existing domain, but received the error listed
in the original post.

You cannot add a Win2k3 as a DC in an NT4 domain if that is what you are
trying to do. If this is not what you are trying to do, I apologize for my
confusion.

If you are trying to upgrade an NT4 domain you have two choices, a.( direct
upgrade of the NT4 PDC or b.( build a new clean install of Win2k3, run
DCPromo to create your AD domain then create trust between the NT4 and AD
domains and use ADMT to migrate the computer and user accounts from the NT4
to the AD domain.

As for the DNS server to use, it should be on the Win2k3 DC and the DC and
all members should use the Win2k3 only for DNS.

Active Directory Migration Tool Version 2 Uses the DNS Name to Resolve the
IP Address:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;823735

How to set up ADMT for Windows NT 4.0 to Windows 2000 migration:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;260871

How to establish trusts with a Windows NT-based domain in Windows Server
2003:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325874

How to configure the Active Directory Migration Tool to migrate user
passwords from a Windows NT 4.0 domain to a Windows Server:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832221

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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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