Vista works for me and I could care less

F

flaming-o

Vista shows that those who run Microsoft are stuck in the Windows 9x
mentality of endless upgrade cycles. They failed to grasp that during the
adaption of XP, and as a result of the actually quite good quality of XP,
computers became a part of everyday personal and business life.
The arbitrary changes to the Mac platform have come home to roost: Adobe is
not working on a 64 bit version of Photoshop for the Mac OS because of
uncertainty about the platform. And Photoshop, if you are a moron about the
realities of color management like most Mac users-is the only dubious excuse
for the Mac platform to exist.
When Vista came out most people were satisfied with their XP software,
boxes and peripherals.
Users do not switch stable staples without good reason. Unless they are Mac
users.
There is no rational, in the sense that Economists define rational, reason
for the vast majority of the XP installed base to switch to Vista. There are
overarching reasons not to switch to Vista.
Despite Microsoft's lame crowing about stability and security the real world
experience of Vista, presuming it will work on one's
machine/network/installed program base, is not better than XP, merely an
arbitrarily different interface.
Interface changes are terrifying to those who barely can cope with the
interface they already use.
Add to that the fact that Vista does not work on a large number of perfectly
useful machines, is incompatible with some programs and vendors will not
supply drivers for perfectly functional existing peripherals and you have
the disaster that is Vista.
With the US economy tanking Microsoft is really going to face crunch time
with Vista. What business is going to waste money changing over to Vista?
The biggest thing Microsoft can do for Vista is to alter it to work with XP
drivers for existing peripherals and allow the XP interface to be used on
the Vista engine.
In which case they might as well ditch Vista and continue to sell XP.
 
L

Lukan

With a nym like flaming, you're on your way to the crap file.

Why? He made a few relevant (and 100% correct) points. Vista works
pretty much perfectly for me, but there's no denying that it has been a
major headache for an awful lot of people and it's reputation isn't
doing MS any favors.

Not sure how anyone could argue with that, to be honest.
 
J

Joseph Meehan

If you don't care, why did you bother posting a message.


flaming-o said:
...
There is no rational, in the sense that Economists define rational, reason
for the vast majority of the XP installed base to switch to Vista.

I am a retired Economist and I have never nor have I heard of an
Economist defining "rational reason."
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Lukan said:
Why? He made a few relevant (and 100% correct) points. Vista works
pretty much perfectly for me, but there's no denying that it has been a
major headache for an awful lot of people and it's reputation isn't doing
MS any favors.

Not sure how anyone could argue with that, to be honest.


I would bet that Vista worked better for most people during the introductory
first year than XP did

--
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How to construct a good post..
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http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
K

Kevpan815

flaming-o said:
Vista shows that those who run Microsoft are stuck in the Windows 9x
mentality of endless upgrade cycles. They failed to grasp that during the
adaption of XP, and as a result of the actually quite good quality of XP,
computers became a part of everyday personal and business life.
The arbitrary changes to the Mac platform have come home to roost: Adobe
is not working on a 64 bit version of Photoshop for the Mac OS because of
uncertainty about the platform. And Photoshop, if you are a moron about
the realities of color management like most Mac users-is the only dubious
excuse for the Mac platform to exist.
When Vista came out most people were satisfied with their XP software,
boxes and peripherals.
Users do not switch stable staples without good reason. Unless they are
Mac users.
There is no rational, in the sense that Economists define rational, reason
for the vast majority of the XP installed base to switch to Vista. There
are overarching reasons not to switch to Vista.
Despite Microsoft's lame crowing about stability and security the real
world experience of Vista, presuming it will work on one's
machine/network/installed program base, is not better than XP, merely an
arbitrarily different interface.
Interface changes are terrifying to those who barely can cope with the
interface they already use.
Add to that the fact that Vista does not work on a large number of
perfectly useful machines, is incompatible with some programs and vendors
will not supply drivers for perfectly functional existing peripherals and
you have the disaster that is Vista.
With the US economy tanking Microsoft is really going to face crunch time
with Vista. What business is going to waste money changing over to Vista?
The biggest thing Microsoft can do for Vista is to alter it to work with
XP drivers for existing peripherals and allow the XP interface to be used
on the Vista engine.
In which case they might as well ditch Vista and continue to sell XP.
Maybe You Could Be Alias #3 And Join Me As Alias #2 And Promote Ubuntu.
Just FYI. Then Next Week When I Have A Tantrum, Install Windows Vista Just
FYI
 
M

Mr. Arnold

Lukan said:
Why? He made a few relevant (and 100% correct) points. Vista works
pretty much perfectly for me, but there's no denying that it has been a
major headache for an awful lot of people and it's reputation isn't doing
MS any favors.

Not sure how anyone could argue with that, to be honest.

They said the same things about Win 2K and XP. It's the same old song and
dance. And if Vista has been a problem for a lot of people, they simply
didn't know how to drive, and they really don't know what's under the hood
of Vista that makes it different from XP.
 
A

Adam Albright

Why? He made a few relevant (and 100% correct) points. Vista works
pretty much perfectly for me, but there's no denying that it has been a
major headache for an awful lot of people and it's reputation isn't
doing MS any favors.

Not sure how anyone could argue with that, to be honest.

The problem is people in newsgroups RARELY are honest. Many fall into
cliques. You have the dopes that blindly worship Microsoft and think
Bill Gates can walk on water. You have others that sing the praises of
Apple, Lynix or something else.

Few people here have the brains or experience to OBJECTIVELY tell it
like it is. Therefore I just take pot shots at the crybabies,
blowhards and assorted creeps that hang out here. Why? Because I can
wrap them all around my little finger and make them dance for my
entertainment without even trying. That's all this goofy newsgroup is
good for. Having fun with the primadonna types that in reality know
nothing. If you actually knew anything about Windows you quickly come
to the same conclusion in oh about five minutes reading the typical
drivel posted here. So my advice, sit back and just enjoy yourself. If
you seriously need help there are hundreds of better places to get
that rather then seeking it in this backwater hangout that's comprised
of fools, stuffed shirts, pretenders and just garden variety fools
that simply don't know any better.
 
A

Adam Albright

I would bet that Vista worked better for most people during the introductory
first year than XP did

MVP's never get tired of trying to peddle the same crap. Windows isn't
new. It has been around since the 80's and remains a fatally flawed,
horribly boated, poorly coded crash prone beast. The only reason
people put up with Windows is they don't want to replace their
considerable investment in Windows Software. Microsoft understands
that all too well.
 
N

none

Kevpan815 said:
Maybe You Could Be Alias #3 And Join Me As Alias #2 And Promote Ubuntu.
Just FYI. Then Next Week When I Have A Tantrum, Install Windows Vista Just
FYI
Go Away Impostor, Just FYI.
 
N

none

Kevpan815 said:
Maybe You Could Be Alias #3 And Join Me As Alias #2 And Promote Ubuntu.
Just FYI. Then Next Week When I Have A Tantrum, Install Windows Vista Just
FYI
Go Away Impostor, Just FYI.
 

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