vista ultimate oem

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Krzysztof Jurkiewicz

hello
I bought notebook with vista ultimate in winter and I don't have any cd/dvd
but i have a recover partition. I was thinking if there is a way to get
cd/dvd with vista not paying too much cause i don't trust that much to
recover partition and that partition kinda blocks installing another OS.

K J
 
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Mark L. Ferguson

Buy a second or external drive, and use the Ultimate "Complete PC Backup"
utility. Your Product Key, and install media are very specific to that one
laptop.
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

Contact the manufacturer of your notebook computer
and request their Windows Vista recovery disc.

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hello
I bought notebook with vista ultimate in winter and I don't have any cd/dvd
but i have a recover partition. I was thinking if there is a way to get
cd/dvd with vista not paying too much cause i don't trust that much to
recover partition and that partition kinda blocks installing another OS.

K J
 
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Nonny

Krzysztof Jurkiewicz said:
hello
I bought notebook with vista ultimate in winter and I don't have any cd/dvd
but i have a recover partition. I was thinking if there is a way to get
cd/dvd with vista not paying too much cause i don't trust that much to
recover partition and that partition kinda blocks installing another OS.
Click to expand...

There should be a simple way for you to create a recovery DVD from
that partition. Check your MFR website (or your installed system
manual) to find out how to do that.

Once you've done it, you will be able to delete that partition.
 
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Colin Barnhorst

Krzysztof Jurkiewicz said:
hello
I bought notebook with vista ultimate in winter and I don't have any
cd/dvd but i have a recover partition. I was thinking if there is a way to
get cd/dvd with vista not paying too much cause i don't trust that much to
recover partition and that partition kinda blocks installing another OS.

K J
Click to expand...

There should be instructions in Help and Support placed there by the mfg on
how to make a recovery disc set. If not it will be on the mfg's website.
 
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Krzysztof Jurkiewicz

well sometime ago I wrote to my manufacturer about those cd/dvd's and they
replied that I have installed on my notebook recovery partition etc.
I am curious about if I get somehow a cd/dvd with vista ultimate ie.
torrent, friends or sth, can I use my key that is on the bottom of my
notebook? I mean, can I do it legally?

K J
 
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John Barnett MVP

First of all check your notebook manual. Your PC manufacturer has told you
that the Vista recovery is to be found on a recovery partition on your hard
drive. Usually (see you manual) there is an option to create a recovery DVD.

I certainly wouldn't be downloading Vista from a torrent site because the
resulting download will, undoubtedly be a 'pirated' copy. The product key
number on the base of your notebook may only work with the copy supplied by
the PC manufacturer as the copy of Vista is tied to your machine. With OEM
copies you can't move them to another machine (licence agreement). To stay
legal either check to see if you can create a DVD recovery disc from the
recovery partition or else buy a retail copy of Vista.

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Ringmaster

First of all check your notebook manual. Your PC manufacturer has told you
that the Vista recovery is to be found on a recovery partition on your hard
drive. Usually (see you manual) there is an option to create a recovery DVD.

I certainly wouldn't be downloading Vista from a torrent site because the
resulting download will, undoubtedly be a 'pirated' copy. The product key
number on the base of your notebook may only work with the copy supplied by
the PC manufacturer as the copy of Vista is tied to your machine. With OEM
copies you can't move them to another machine (licence agreement). To stay
legal either check to see if you can create a DVD recovery disc from the
recovery partition or else buy a retail copy of Vista.
Click to expand...

Microsoft's idea of "legal"

Force Americans to pay full price for a buggy upgrade.

Trot out Bill Gates who says, it's cool with him for millions of
middle class Chinese that could well afford to purchase a legit copy
of Vista to obtain a pirated copy with Microsoft's full blessing.

Bend over American Bill Gates and Microsoft wants to do you know what
to you. You're suppose to smile and enjoy it.
 
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Krzysztof Jurkiewicz

well i don't want to move my vista to another pc, cause i have a few copies
of msdn aa :), I mean generally interested in vista that is on my notebook,
well i opened recovery partition today and there were a few options like
restoring points etc. but i didn't see create a vista cd, I need that DVD
because I don't think that recovery partition would allow me to install
another OS (linux). If this isn't possible or i have to buy another copy, I
will just use some msdn aa copy and before that make a restoring point.
 
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John Barnett MVP

You won't find anything on the recovery partition other than the recovery
image. As I said in my previous post - check your PC's manual to see if it
gives details for creating a recovery DVD. If not, ask the PC manufacturer
how you go about creating a recovery DVD.


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Krzysztof Jurkiewicz

well I've got one more question, can I install vista business from msdn aa
and then somehow use my vista ultimate key to upgrade that vista business?
 
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Charles W Davis

You seem to have tried everything except creating the Recovery DVDs. Go to
Windows Help and Support, search on "recovery discs" you will see an entry
called Create recovery discs. Follow the instructions.

PC manuals have several paragraphs regarding the creation of recovery discs.
Note that the manufacturers limit the creation of only one set of recovery
discs. Treasure them and keep them safe.
 
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John Barnett MVP

Why are you so reluctant to try the obvious and read the manual to create a
recovery DVD?

If you have an MSDN subscription then you have access to Vista Ultimate,
along with all the other versions of Vista. If you have an MSDN product key
for Vita Ultimate then install that. MSDN copies are 'retail' copies your
OEM licence isn't going to work with a retail copy.

Like all new PCs mine also came with Vista Premium installed. The first
thing I did was 'create a set of recovery DVDs' (Even though my PC
manufacturer had also supplied an OEM copy of vista premium (for e-machines
that's amazing)) Now I have a copy in case of emergency (or in my case
should I wish to sell my PC at a later date.)

The next thing I did was to completely wipe the hard drive and install my
own copy of Vista Ultimate (retail pack). As I pointed out in my previous
post a retail pack gives you more scope than an OEM. The OEM is tied to your
PC whereas a retail one isn't.


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Krzysztof Jurkiewicz

well i am in the middle of creating recovery disk
now it is making a ninth disk (dvds failed)

i have university msdn and there is only business version
haven't got any manual, already been on recovery partition and haven's seen
anything special (i am kinda interested in pure vista disc, not image or
sth)
ok ninth and the last disk created, gonna check them
 
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Krzysztof Jurkiewicz

bad news I tried those rescue discs and they aren't vista recovery but
lenovo recovery discs, it's gonna probably restore recovery partition and OS
with bundle soft so it is not that I want
 
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John Barnett MVP

The lenovo recovery I all you are going to get, because that is what is in
the recovery image. Even if you run the recovery from the recovery partition
you will only restore the notebook back to factory conditions and, sadly,
that includes all the crap that lenovo put on the notebook in the first
place.


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John Barnett MVP

I'm a little confused here, why would you be wanting to resize your
partition?


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John Barnett MVP

I can understand what you are trying to do but you are not going to be able
to do it with what you already have. While the Vista Disc contains all
versions of Vista (I'm not sure about University copies, but enterprise MSDN
subscriptions do) you don't have a legal key to installed Vista Ultimate. As
I've pointed out your OEM key isn't any good for the retail MSDN version. In
my opinion, for what it is worth, you either have to purchase a retail DVD
of Vista Ultimate or obtain an MSDN product key for Vista Ultimate. For the
latter you would need to approach your University to see if they have any
available keys for Vista Ultimate. It is doubtful, but you could just ask.

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