Vista refuses to start normally

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Guest

I've just installed Vista, and the installation went like a charm. After
having started up for the the first time (succesfully) I modified the folder,
taskbar, sidebar and displaysettings to better suit me, and I installed the
latest updates from WindowsUpdate. I didn't install anything else, so my
Vista installation is a clean installation with no 3rd party software at all.
However, each time I try to start Vista now, it hangs during the
low-resolution progress bar at startup (the green one that has "Microsoft"
beneath it). No error messages, no nothing.
I can, however, startup and go into safemode and safemode w/networking, but
when I try to startup normally after that, it just hangs again.
I highly doubt this is a hardware issue, since my XP-installation has worked
fine without any errors of any kind.
I also tried booting from my Vista DVD to try the repair tools, but none of
them helped. The Startup Repair simply failed for no apparent reason (even
this without error messages), and System Restore didn't want to cooperate. It
said it just couldn't use any of the restore points.
So now I'm stuck and don't know what to do. I really want Vista to work, but
it simply doesn't.
Does anybody have any tips on what I can do to make Vista work?
 
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peter

Go into safe mode and look to see what the Vista Update downloaded and
installed..........uninstall one by one till you find the culprit.
Start with device drivers............
Under XP the rule of thumb was not to let XP update non MS products either
software or hardware and as such the updater needed to be set to notify but
not install,then you could see what and determine which to actually download
and install......the same is true for Vista.Non MS drivers should be
downloaded from the manufacturers website..not MS update site
good luck
peter
 
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Guest

peter said:
Go into safe mode and look to see what the Vista Update downloaded and
installed..........uninstall one by one till you find the culprit.

Had it only been that easy. After not being able to start Vista, and
suspecting that the Windows Update did something stupid, I completely
reinstalled Vista, but this time I didn't adjust any of my settings nor did I
download any updates or install any drivers. Yet, Vista still refuses to
start everytime I power on my PC or restart it after entering safemode. The
startup hangs in exactly the same place as before.
 
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peter

Could you give us a list of hardware on your PC as well as specs.
It seems to be stuck while it is loading hardware drivers...........
peter
 
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Guest

peter said:
Could you give us a list of hardware on your PC as well as specs.
It seems to be stuck while it is loading hardware drivers

That would be my guess as well, but I've no idea how to figure out which
driver it's stopping at.
Here's my relevant hardware:

MSI 975X Platinum Powerup Edition
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700
ATI Radeon X1950
Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty
Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7173A

When Vista started the first time after install (the only time it managed to
start succesfully) the Device Manager listed all hardware as working and the
only hardware not found was the soundcard.
 
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peter

I would start with the souncard removed and see it that cures the
problem.......
peter
 
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Guest

peter said:
I would start with the souncard removed and see it that cures the
problem...

That didn't solve the problem.
I did notice, after some attempts to start Vista, that just before the
startup hangs, all the indicator lights on my keyboard (scroll/caps/numlock)
flashed briefly.
 
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Guest

Chandler said:
That didn't solve the problem.
I did notice, after some attempts to start Vista, that just before the
startup hangs, all the indicator lights on my keyboard (scroll/caps/numlock)
flashed briefly.

I also tried the "Enable boot logging" option in the boot menu to see if I
could see exactly which driver caused the problem. However, when I rebooted
after the hang, entered safemode and looked at the file
C:\Windows\ntbtlog.txt it didn't contain any information from the failed
startup at all. It only contained information about the latest safemode
startup.
 
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Seth

Chandler said:
That didn't solve the problem.
I did notice, after some attempts to start Vista, that just before the
startup hangs, all the indicator lights on my keyboard
(scroll/caps/numlock)
flashed briefly.


Then it sounds as if it isn't even trying to boot from the hard disk. The
lights on the keyboard flashing usually happens during POST. Do you see any
Windows splash screens (or anything on the screen at all from power button
to freeze)?
 
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Guest

Seth said:
Then it sounds as if it isn't even trying to boot from the hard disk. The
lights on the keyboard flashing usually happens during POST. Do you see any
Windows splash screens (or anything on the screen at all from power button
to freeze)?

If you'd read the entire thread you'd see that I get the Vista splash screen
with the green progress bar with the text "Microsoft Corporation" beneath it,
and that I was able to get into safe mode; i.e. it goes way beyond POST ;)
 
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peter

Got me stumped.......I went and looked at your Mobo and came up with a few
questions/suggestions..
You did not list your HDs .....???
Vista startup repair sometimes takes 2 or 3 times to do its job .....try it
again.
MSI mobo..SATA HD?? drivers installed during Vista Installation??
MSI mobo...on board sound...disabled??
It starts in safe mode but not in regular mode still makes me think there is
a driver that is causing problems.....When you first installed and where in
regular mode did you install the mobo drivers?? Have you tried that yet to
see if it makes a difference?
peter
 
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Guest

peter said:
Got me stumped.......I went and looked at your Mobo and came up with a few
questions/suggestions..
You did not list your HDs .....???
Vista startup repair sometimes takes 2 or 3 times to do its job .....try it
again.
MSI mobo..SATA HD?? drivers installed during Vista Installation??
MSI mobo...on board sound...disabled??
It starts in safe mode but not in regular mode still makes me think there is
a driver that is causing problems.....When you first installed and where in
regular mode did you install the mobo drivers?? Have you tried that yet to
see if it makes a difference?

Yes, I've disabled the onboard sound.
Yes, I have a SATA harddrive. If my memory serves me well I think it's a
Seagate Barracuda. I'm not 100% positive of this, and disassembling my
computer to check it out is too much of a hassle :p
For my first Vista-installation I tried without installing the chipset
drivers from MSI. For my second installation I did install those drivers
during the installation. Both of these options made no difference.
 

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