Vista Really slow, what could be a problem !

[Adam Albright]

Terry

Nobody is forced to use a Microsoft operating system unless they have a desire to run software that has been written for Windows only, in which case they should approach the software author and enquire about a Linux or Mac version..

Nobody is forced to upgrade to Vista unless there are features in Vista that the potential upgrader particularly wants..

Classic example why Mike Hall is just a airhead.

Somebody has a general issue with Vista, Hall responds "nobody forced
you to buy Vista".

Somebody has a issue with some hardware, Hall's responds "Isn't
Microsoft's fault, contact the vendor".

Somebody has a issue with some software, Hall responds, "you didn't do
research first"

Honest Mike, you're in the wrong line of work. You should seriously
consider politics. You ability to make empty excuses to every question
is a talent that's wasted here.

 

[Mike Hall MVP]

Set your sights on yet another Vista newsgroup, have you?

Classic example why Mike Hall is just a airhead.

Somebody has a general issue with Vista, Hall responds "nobody forced
you to buy Vista".

Somebody has a issue with some hardware, Hall's responds "Isn't
Microsoft's fault, contact the vendor".

Somebody has a issue with some software, Hall responds, "you didn't do
research first"

Honest Mike, you're in the wrong line of work. You should seriously
consider politics. You ability to make empty excuses to every question
is a talent that's wasted here.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[KilrPilr]

WTF kind of answer is that? You are telling him to uninstall his antivirus?
Not even suggesting one to replace with? I demand your resignation!! Thats
just completely bad advice with serious repercusions that will only cost the
person who you have given this absolutely bad advice to. I certainly hope u
dont speak for all MS mvp's. This is disgusting.

 

[Steve]

I'm always amazed at those who tell people to uninstall Norton. Everyone
claims that Norton is the slow down. I beg to differ. I have Norton and I
check my running processes often. Norton very rarely has more than 1% of the
cpu usage or more than a few mb or ram.

On the contrary, I find that IE7 is the big hog on my system. i also found
that it does not release ram like it is supposed to do. I routinely find IE7
with 75% of the cpu usage and over 100 mb of ram. I have to close IE7 and
then ctrl+alt+del to get the task manager and I still find IE7 runnning. As
far as I'm concerned, Vista runs great until I spend some time on IE.

Norton rocks. 7 years running without a single virus, spyware, trojan, back
door or other malware. I guess it really matters how you take care of your
system.

 

[Leythos]

I'm always amazed at those who tell people to uninstall Norton. Everyone
claims that Norton is the slow down. I beg to differ. I have Norton and
I check my running processes often. Norton very rarely has more than 1%
of the cpu usage or more than a few mb or ram.

Sorry, but if you have NIS installed or are using 2005, 2006 then you're
wasting LOTS of CPU time. I installed Norton AV 2006 (not NIS, just NAV
2006) in a small office of 6 computers, it brought them to a standstill on
their computers. Replaced it with Symantec Corp AV 10.0 and it was
night-day different.

Ever machine I've experienced running NAV, since version 2004, and ALL
Machines running NIS, benefit from having it removed and some other AV
solution installed.

 

[Rock]

I'm always amazed at those who tell people to uninstall Norton. Everyone
claims that Norton is the slow down. I beg to differ. I have Norton and I
check my running processes often. Norton very rarely has more than 1% of
the cpu usage or more than a few mb or ram.

On the contrary, I find that IE7 is the big hog on my system. i also found
that it does not release ram like it is supposed to do. I routinely find
IE7 with 75% of the cpu usage and over 100 mb of ram. I have to close IE7
and then ctrl+alt+del to get the task manager and I still find IE7
runnning. As far as I'm concerned, Vista runs great until I spend some
time on IE.

Norton rocks. 7 years running without a single virus, spyware, trojan,
back door or other malware. I guess it really matters how you take care of
your system.

I don't know about the latest release running on Vista, Norton 360, but
their XP offerings, NAV and NIS, are horrible, resource hogs, that generally
lead to other problems. I know of no one that recommends those products.
There is always the individual who hasn't had operational problems with
them, but at the very least they are bloated and resource heavy, a fact that
is well known.

Based on that I wouldn't let any of the Norton Home products near any
computers, either XP or Vista. That said if their newer offering does a
better job and it is shown to be so, I might be more inclined to recommend
them, but not at this stage.

Some with McAfee's offerings.

Right now I have ten tabs open in IE7, with Windows Mail, a word processer,
and task manager. CPU usage for IE7 isn't even registering. Been running
for about six hours now with no issues.

 

[Lord Takyon]

I'm always amazed at those who tell people to uninstall Norton. Everyone
claims that Norton is the slow down. I beg to differ. I have Norton and I
check my running processes often. Norton very rarely has more than 1% of
the cpu usage or more than a few mb or ram.

On the contrary, I find that IE7 is the big hog on my system. i also found
that it does not release ram like it is supposed to do. I routinely find
IE7 with 75% of the cpu usage and over 100 mb of ram. I have to close IE7
and then ctrl+alt+del to get the task manager and I still find IE7
runnning. As far as I'm concerned, Vista runs great until I spend some
time on IE.

Norton rocks. 7 years running without a single virus, spyware, trojan,
back door or other malware. I guess it really matters how you take care of
your system.

Norton is bloated, and Mcafee almost always causes slowdown. They are OK at
what they do, they just do it very inefficiently. There are several decent
free scanners that are very resource light, and that is what I want fo
something that is running all the time.

My daughter got a laptop via her school, McAfee was using around 40% cpu and
almost 80 meg RAM, same setup with other laptops purchased this way, first
thing I did was got rid of it and the system speed improved dramatically.

 

[Rick Rogers]

Norton and McAfee's antivirus programs are known performance dogs. Between
them they cause a large majority of compatibility and resource issues seen
in this and other groups. They should be uninstalled and replaced with one
of the many available programs that have a much lighter footprint on the
system.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

 

[Cal Bear '66]

It is also a very well documented fact that Norton and McAfee can cause very
serious problems with Vista's Windows Mail.

 

[Dana Cline - MVP]

Try Windows Live Messenger - it's the Messenger replacement and should run
fine on Vista. What was the other MS app? It might be an old one, as I've
got all the current consumer apps running on Vista right now.

Dana Cline - MCE MVP

 

[Retired]

At least Mike did not resort to name-calling, as you did ("airhead"). Your
credibility is zip, Mike's is still intact.

 

[Adam Albright]

At least Mike did not resort to name-calling, as you did ("airhead"). Your
credibility is zip, Mike's is still intact.

I couldn't care less what the dummy squad thinks. Mike's credibility
is crap. Yep, it still is intact if you like shit throwers.

Let's break down the various groups of posters that are regulars here:

1. Screwdriver jockeys. These guys fancy themselves "expert" because
they laughingly claim they "build" systems. News Flash... all that
is necessary to assemble a PC computer from scratch is obtain the
parts, them put them together. Total time; 20 minutes tops, any
semi-intelligent ten year old kid can do it.

2. IT "professionals". What a hoot. These self-proclaimed
"professionals" are so key to the organization they work for they
can spend hours a day blabbering in this and similar newsgroups.
If these guys are so hot, how it is they have so much free time to
mess around? I rarely had time to go to lunch.

3. Most MVPs, come from groups #1 and #2. There is no testing,
they are picked by people already MVPs, a simple I'll scratch your
back if you promise to scratch mine kind of little club. Useless.

4. Hobbyists. Actually this group can be quite well informed.

5. Experienced users. People that have used Windows since the
beginning. Often have built many systems and is the guy called
by all the neighbors to "fix" their computers. Often has long
work experince writing software applications, designing hardware.
Could have worked in some IT department, may still work there, or
have been responsible for supervising a major company's operations.

Yea, I'm in group #5. If you can take the plain unvarnished truth,
I'll tell ya. If you want some bullshit, ask a MVP or any of the
fakers that hang out here. They're always good for laughs.

 

[Bob]

Get rid of Norton...

I don't know about the latest release running on Vista, Norton 360, but
their XP offerings, NAV and NIS, are horrible, resource hogs, that
generally lead to other problems. I know of no one that recommends those
products. There is always the individual who hasn't had operational
problems with them, but at the very least they are bloated and resource
heavy, a fact that is well known.

Based on that I wouldn't let any of the Norton Home products near any
computers, either XP or Vista. That said if their newer offering does a
better job and it is shown to be so, I might be more inclined to recommend
them, but not at this stage.

Some with McAfee's offerings.

Right now I have ten tabs open in IE7, with Windows Mail, a word
processer, and task manager. CPU usage for IE7 isn't even registering.
Been running for about six hours now with no issues.

 

[Guest]

Vista is ridiculously slow on good hardware. Hell, I was even able to kind of
get used to it for a while and I thought it was pretty quick. Then I hooked
my older PC with maybe 1/3 the hardware capabilities and BAM! I remembed what
quick was! Vista is a slow hobbling embarassment.