Vista .. other issues

[johns]

Here's a list of programs that refused
to run on Vista:

Do any of you have other programs that you tried?
Reason I ask is I'm reading several vendors sueing
Microsoft for this: Obviously, this ploy is going to
grab Engineering CAD, gaming, Anti-virus,
multimedia, and possibly webtv. We should watch
it develop.

latest version of AutoCAD, including
Land Desktop
Aquamark
F-secure 6.01 latest update
McAfee Antivirus latest update
EZ-Antivirus designed for Vista
solidWorks .. Engineering CAD app
Nero
EasyCD
PowerDVD
QuickTime Player

and a list of games that ran terribly:

Far Cry
Syberia II
Doom3
CoD2

All ran perfectly on the same box
under WinXP Pro.

Other issues:

Under Vista, the hard drive ran
constantly, like there was either
a keylogger running, or the system
did not have enough ram .. it had
2 gigs ddr400 Kingston ram. Problem
not seen under WinXP Pro.

IE7 would not access about 1 out of
4 sites on the web. I understand there
may be a patch, but I did not look
for it.

johns

 

[Mike T.]

Here's a list of programs that refused
to run on Vista:

Do any of you have other programs that you tried?

AVG Anti-Virus (latest version)
Sygate Personal Firewall. (no longer supported, but it was the best freebie
firewall, period)
Incredimail, latest version. I got a e-mail message from Incredimail
support confirming that it is NOT Vista compatible. No word yet on if it
ever will be.

latest version of AutoCAD, including
Land Desktop
Aquamark
F-secure 6.01 latest update
McAfee Antivirus latest update
EZ-Antivirus designed for Vista
solidWorks .. Engineering CAD app
Nero
EasyCD
PowerDVD
QuickTime Player

Other issues:

Under Vista, the hard drive ran
constantly, like there was either
a keylogger running, or the system
did not have enough ram .. it had
2 gigs ddr400 Kingston ram. Problem
not seen under WinXP Pro.

Odd. I installed Vista on two different systems. Both had 1Gig of RAM, one
DDR400 the other DDR2 something. Vista had enough problems to cause me to
uninstall it. But disk activity was about the same as XP, maybe even lower.
Maybe the systems you tried had too much RAM?

IE7 would not access about 1 out of
4 sites on the web. I understand there
may be a patch, but I did not look
for it.

johns

That's also odd. I was surfing the web for a couple of hours on the new IE
that shipped with Vista Beta 2. I like the tab function, almost as
intuitive as firefox. I didn't find any web sites that I couldn't access.
It might have been a temporary problem with your ISP DNS server. If a DNS
server gets flaky, a common symptom is that about half of web sites will
load correctly, and the other can't be found. -Dave

 

[Clint]

Dude,

It's a beta release. It's not ready for prime-time, or they'd call it a
release candidate or Gold. Not everything's going to work with it. The
other companies may have work to do as well, to get their stuff to work with
Vista. It's not all MS's fault.

Clint

 

[Randella]

The problems your facing are 2 fold...

First, your installing and running programs built specificly for a
version of windows you are not running.

Second, a fast CPU and tons of ram does not mean your system will
perform well. What kind of bench marks did your motherboard set?
Video card problems could be at hand.. how fast are your hard drives?
etc...

Vista ups the minimum standard in computing. It requires more raw
power than any operating system yet.... So maybe your system is not
ready for it, scale back and stick with what works.

-Randy

 

[johns]

It might have been a temporary problem with your ISP DNS server. If a DNS
server gets flaky, a common symptom is that about half of web sites will
load correctly, and the other can't be found. -Dave

I could turn around to my other XP box and access the site
immediately. I think I read that IE7 needs a patch even under
XP. I know I'm getting false "invalid copy of Windows"
messages from Microsoft updates when I try to install IE7
under XP.

johns

 

[johns]

True, but try telling that to Professor BigPants when
he calls you to his office, and his Dual Opteron won't
access his own web page

johns

 

[johns]

My test system is so good, it can smoke a Dual Opteron
built by Sun Microsystems, and it runs dead even with
an AMD 4800+ X2. Video card is BFG GF7900GTO
and under XP SP2, it maxes out most benchmarking
utilities.

I'm starting another test on a Dell Dimension 9100
with nVidia 6800 video. It seems to be even more
compatible regards drivers. All hardware was detected
and installed normally by Vista. I'll report on that one
tomorrow. At least I'm not being paid by some vendor
to do these tests. I'm just covering my ass because
as soon as Vista goes Gold, I'm IT !!!! I get to install
it all over this school, and woe unto me if it gives
problems in November. I figure you guys have nobody
leaning over your shoulder either, and I will get
honest opinions from you. So far, the only vendor
who did not cuss me out was Gigabyte. They
pointed me to drivers, and said "Good Luck!"

johns

 

[Clint]

Tell him tough noogies, don't install beta software on a production machine.
I'm semi-responsible for the network/hardware around here (lack of
someone else to do it more than inclination/training/career), and if anyone
came whining to me about their machine not working properly while running a
beta OS, I'd be pretty un-sympathetic. Like "Here's your XP disc, go do a
new install..." Now, if a year from now, when we've rolled out Vista as a
standard and they have the problem, that's a different issue. Of course, if
we roll it out without doing appropriate testing, that's our fault, not the
end users.

BTW, are you reporting your issues to the Vista beta groups, or just in
here? I haven't been following the beta groups, since I haven't installed
my copy yet. I'm pretty sure the beta groups exist already.

Clint

 

[Mike T.]

My test system is so good, it can smoke a Dual Opteron
built by Sun Microsystems, and it runs dead even with
an AMD 4800+ X2. Video card is BFG GF7900GTO
and under XP SP2, it maxes out most benchmarking
utilities.

I'm starting another test on a Dell Dimension 9100
with nVidia 6800 video. It seems to be even more
compatible regards drivers. All hardware was detected
and installed normally by Vista. I'll report on that one
tomorrow. At least I'm not being paid by some vendor
to do these tests. I'm just covering my ass because
as soon as Vista goes Gold, I'm IT !!!! I get to install
it all over this school, and woe unto me if it gives
problems

I feel for ya, man. From what I've seen, I wouldn't want to install Vista
on several random computer systems. YIKES!!! And I'm alleged to know what
the frick I'm doin. -Dave

 

[tom]

I could turn around to my other XP box and access the site
immediately. I think I read that IE7 needs a patch even under
XP. I know I'm getting false "invalid copy of Windows"
messages from Microsoft updates when I try to install IE7
under XP.

johns

No problems installing or working with IE7/Windows XP Pro here...on my
back-up computer.