Vista OEM legal requirements

[Guest]

I want to upgrade my PC, and along with it, I'd like to buy the new Windows
Vista. I'da also like it to be an OEM version, since it's cheaper. The
question is - how much do I have to upgrade for it to count as a new PC? If I
buy just a motherboard+CPU+RAM+VGA, is it enough for a Vista OEM to be sold
along with it? Or must I also buy a hard drive, DVD-ROM and a case with PSU?

 

[Mac]

I think the spirit of the EULA suggests a motherboard as a minimum, but it
has never been tested in a court of law AFAIK.

 

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otherwise good luck.

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[Alias]

I want to upgrade my PC, and along with it, I'd like to buy the new Windows
Vista. I'da also like it to be an OEM version, since it's cheaper. The
question is - how much do I have to upgrade for it to count as a new PC? If I
buy just a motherboard+CPU+RAM+VGA, is it enough for a Vista OEM to be sold
along with it? Or must I also buy a hard drive, DVD-ROM and a case with PSU?

Motherboard, cpu, ram and a hard drive are the requirements for Vista
OEM generic. You'd be better off buying a Retail upgrade. You can clean
install a Retail Upgrade.

Alias

 

[Mac]

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2087792,00.asp

 

[norm]

Motherboard, cpu, ram and a hard drive are the requirements for Vista
OEM generic. You'd be better off buying a Retail upgrade. You can clean
install a Retail Upgrade.

Alias

Alias, unless newegg is wrong, the components are not a requirement for
purchasing an oem version of vista. They are a requirement for an oem
version of xp.
Compare this url for info on the vista oem single pack for 111.99
http://e3wwwtest.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=vista+oem&x=0&y=0
to this url for info on the xp sp2 oem single back for 89.99
http://e3wwwtest.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=xp+oem&x=0&y=0

Notice the difference in the disclaimers for each. Only the xp oem has
the following disclaimer:
Disclaimer: Qualifying proof of purchase must be recent receipts showing
the purchase of a mother board, hard drive, RAM and a CPU. The
components can be on multiple receipts; not necessarily all on one
receipt nor on the same receipt as the qualifying Windows XP/Office 2003
that you purchased.
I made the oem vista purchase within the past 2 months without a
hardware purchase.

 

[Mac]

On a rereading I can't see any reference to tied hardware except the phrase
"installed device", which would imply HD or maybe at a push RAM.

http://download.microsoft.com/docum...lish_36d0fe99-75e4-4875-8153-889cf5105718.pdf

 

[Mac]

I concur. Read the Vista EULA...

Alias, unless newegg is wrong, the components are not a requirement for
purchasing an oem version of vista. They are a requirement for an oem
version of xp.
Compare this url for info on the vista oem single pack for 111.99
http://e3wwwtest.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=vista+oem&x=0&y=0
to this url for info on the xp sp2 oem single back for 89.99
http://e3wwwtest.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=xp+oem&x=0&y=0

Notice the difference in the disclaimers for each. Only the xp oem has the
following disclaimer:
Disclaimer: Qualifying proof of purchase must be recent receipts showing
the purchase of a mother board, hard drive, RAM and a CPU. The components
can be on multiple receipts; not necessarily all on one receipt nor on the
same receipt as the qualifying Windows XP/Office 2003 that you purchased.
I made the oem vista purchase within the past 2 months without a hardware
purchase.

 

[...winston]

Echoing others, a retail is always much better, though IIrc all OEM's are clean installs.
...winston

: Vilx- wrote:
: > I want to upgrade my PC, and along with it, I'd like to buy the new Windows
: > Vista. I'da also like it to be an OEM version, since it's cheaper. The
: > question is - how much do I have to upgrade for it to count as a new PC? If I
: > buy just a motherboard+CPU+RAM+VGA, is it enough for a Vista OEM to be sold
: > along with it? Or must I also buy a hard drive, DVD-ROM and a case with PSU?
:
: Motherboard, cpu, ram and a hard drive are the requirements for Vista
: OEM generic. You'd be better off buying a Retail upgrade. You can clean
: install a Retail Upgrade.
:
: Alias

 

[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

Motherboard, cpu, ram and a hard drive are the requirements for Vista
OEM generic. You'd be better off buying a Retail upgrade. You can clean
install a Retail Upgrade.

Alias

Really? I wasn't aware of that with Vista. I thought you had to have
your upgrade OS pre installed in order to use the upgrade.


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[Nin@ DiB0y]

Motherboard, cpu, ram and a hard drive are the requirements for Vista
OEM generic. You'd be better off buying a Retail upgrade. You can clean
install a Retail Upgrade.

Alias

Hi Alias,

I thought that only the full retail install allowed for a clean install,
not the retail upgrade with Vista?

 

[Guest]

New Egg sells the OEM versions with DVD Roms

 

[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

Motherboard, cpu, ram and a hard drive are the requirements for Vista
OEM generic. You'd be better off buying a Retail upgrade. You can clean
install a Retail Upgrade.

Alias

I thought you needed the qualifying OS preloaded and could not do a
clean install with Retail upgrade of Vista?


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[norm]

New Egg sells the OEM versions with DVD Roms

They sell vista oem without any hardware purchase requirements. Please
cite where you see the requirement tp purchase a dvd-rom.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for your replies.

I don't think I can afford a Retail version, since it costs twice as much.
And I don't care about upgrade options, since I always do clean installs
anyway (in my experience, clean installs are much better). That said, I also
forgot to mention, that I was looking at Vista Business edition. Although it
is for a home computer, I don't care much for Media Center or Movie Maker.
However I do use Remote desktop every now and then...

OK, so, what I gather is that the license is very vague about this, and
nobody has yet tried to sue anybody over such an issue. Works for me.
Thanks, everyone!

 

[Alias]

Really? I wasn't aware of that with Vista. I thought you had to have
your upgrade OS pre installed in order to use the upgrade.

I haven't done it but apparently if you install Vista and don't put the
product key in and then install it again and do put the product key in,
it will think it is upgrading the first install.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Hi Alias,

I thought that only the full retail install allowed for a clean install,
not the retail upgrade with Vista?

See:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/clean-install-workaround-for-vista-upgrade-discovered/

Alias

 

[Alias]

Thank you for your replies.

I don't think I can afford a Retail version, since it costs twice as much.
And I don't care about upgrade options, since I always do clean installs
anyway (in my experience, clean installs are much better). That said, I also
forgot to mention, that I was looking at Vista Business edition. Although it
is for a home computer, I don't care much for Media Center or Movie Maker.
However I do use Remote desktop every now and then...

OK, so, what I gather is that the license is very vague about this, and
nobody has yet tried to sue anybody over such an issue. Works for me.
Thanks, everyone!

See:


http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/clean-install-workaround-for-vista-upgrade-discovered/

Alias

 

[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

See:


http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/clean-install-workaround-for-vista-upgrade-discovered/


Alias

Thank Alias, good to know. Sorry for all of the duplicate posts. My
newsserver was being flakey yesterday, so I didn't see most of my posts
show up until hours later.

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[Alias]

Thank Alias, good to know.

My pleasure

Sorry for all of the duplicate posts. My
newsserver was being flakey yesterday, so I didn't see most of my posts
show up until hours later.

It happens ...

Alias