Vista Network Map

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seniorshot

I have a vista machine (Home premium)and 2 XP machines (1 Home and 1
proffessional) networked.
Firstly can I say that File and printer sharing is working perfectly on all
machines.

My problem (minor as it might be) is that I cannot see either of the XP
machines on the Vista network map in "Network and Sharing Centre".
Microsoft solution to this problem is to install SP3 on the xp machines.
This is what I have done but it has NOT solved the problem.
I have installed SP3 KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe on both XP machines. The LLTP
responder files are not included in this SP3 version. The LLTP discovery
responder box is not shown in the LAN connection properties. I believe that
the 3 files required are rspndr.sys, rspndr.exe and rspndr.inf. None of these
files are present on either of the XP machines. I was told that an earlier
version of XP SP3 (KB922120-v5-x86-enu.exe) included these 3 files, but since
I have installed the later version of SP3 I cannot install this earlier
version.

My question is how do I obtain manually the files to make the LLTP Responder
work and how and where do I install them ? Microsoft information on this
subject definately appears to be incorrect.
 
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seniorshot

In answer to your question Mick the answer is YES. The problem is definately
that the LLTP responder files are not present. The question is how do I
obtain and install them.
 
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Donald L McDaniel

In answer to your question Mick the answer is YES. The problem is definately
that the LLTP responder files are not present. The question is how do I
obtain and install them.

You must also ask yourself an additional question:
"Is my Network 'Private' (i.e., 'my machines are all connected to the
same router and assigned a network address via DHCP something like
this: [10.x.x.x], thus not being directly accessible from the
Internet'), or 'Public' (i.e., 'each of my machines are directly
accessible from the Internet')?"

I do apologize for any grammatical errors, but I don't know how to
properly format three contigious punctuation marks within quotes. If
you know where the question mark should properly be placed in the
above sentence, please let me know.

If the answer is "Public", you will not be able to see all devices on
the Network until you set your Network to be "Private".

Donald L McDaniel
 
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PaulB

HI,

I had this same problem and am still trying to get Microsoft support to
determine why it does not seem to be in SP3 like they say.
However, I found two ways to deal with it.
1. If you install the LLTD before you install SP3, it works fine.

2. After SP3 or when you do a fresh install of XP SP3, even though the
protocol won't self install you can install it youself by first

Download the LLTD hotfix KB922120

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...1D-EE46-481E-BA11-37F485FA34EA&displaylang=en

and extract the required files.

Here's how to do it.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828030

In the folder where you extract to you will find a folder SP2QFE.
Open this and you will find the required files.


Then copy the rspndr.sys to C:\Windows\System32\Drivers folder,
rspndr.exe to C:\Windows\System32 folder.
rspndr.inf (inside ip folder) to C:\Windows\Inf folder
Then open a Command prompt as administrator and navigate to the
C:\Windows\System32 folder and type rspndr.exe -i
This will install the LLTD responder.
 
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seniorshot

Paul thank you for that information. I am having difficulty following
KB828030 in order to extract the 3 relevant LLTP responder files.

Do I enter the string " windowsxp-kb922120-v5-x86-enu.exe -x:c\922120 "
into a command prompt or into the run box ?, I have tried both and neither
seem to work.

I do think if I can obtain the 3 relevant files I will solve the problem.
 
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PaulB

Hi,
Enter the string into the coomand prompt that is open at an elevated level
(right click on the command prompt icon and select "Run as administrator")

WindowsXP-KB922120-v5-x86-ENU.exe -x:c:\922120

You will then find the files in C:\922120
 
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seniorshot

Hi Paul. Thanks for your assistance.

I have entered the string as you explained into the Adminisrator Command
prompt.
the directory is c:\windows\system32> Unfortunately I get the following
error message : "windowsxp-kb922120-v5-x86-enu.exe -x:c:\922120 is not
recognised as an internal or external command,operable program or batch file."
 
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PaulB

The string must contain the full path to the downloaded file.
to make it easy copy the downloaded file to your User file.
Then open the command prompt without elevated privileges.

The prompt should then be c:\Users\your user name
Then enter the command

WindowsXP-KB922120-v5-x86-ENU.exe -x:c:\922120

or you can type

C:\Users\your user name\WindowsXP-KB922120-v5-x86-ENU.exe -x:c:\922120
 
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seniorshot

Hello Paul,

Success !! , installed the LLTP Responder files and now the Vista Network
map shows the XP machines. Many thanks for your help and assistance. I would
not have been able to resolve this without your help.
It's a pity that Microsoft don't recognise the problem and resolve it
quickly !!

Thanks again
Roger
 
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PaulB

You are welcome Roger. I agree with you about Microsoft. I can't understand
why this issue with SP3 and LLTD has not been resolved.
 
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Ivan

Through what steps can I make the network 'Private'. I see no settings in
the Belkin Wireless router for making the network private. When I set the
Vista laptop to private, it loops on searching the network and never locks.
This tells me that the reat of my network really is public. I could not find
any XP settings to accomplist this either.

My printer sharing from the XP works to all other XP's including 2 wireless
and the wireless Vista LT works fine only to the shared disks and did
identify the shared printer through the Add Printer, but will not print to
it.
--
IvanHoe


Donald L McDaniel said:
In answer to your question Mick the answer is YES. The problem is definately
that the LLTP responder files are not present. The question is how do I
obtain and install them.

You must also ask yourself an additional question:
"Is my Network 'Private' (i.e., 'my machines are all connected to the
same router and assigned a network address via DHCP something like
this: [10.x.x.x], thus not being directly accessible from the
Internet'), or 'Public' (i.e., 'each of my machines are directly
accessible from the Internet')?"

I do apologize for any grammatical errors, but I don't know how to
properly format three contigious punctuation marks within quotes. If
you know where the question mark should properly be placed in the
above sentence, please let me know.

If the answer is "Public", you will not be able to see all devices on
the Network until you set your Network to be "Private".

Donald L McDaniel
 

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