Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP

[TedF]

Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
junk.
They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
much harder for the user with many popup worthless
security messages.
I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.

Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.

Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.

 

[Major Drunkdey]

Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
junk.
They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
much harder for the user with many popup worthless
security messages.
I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.

Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.

Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.

Boy, can you tell us what you don't like. Can you tell us what your
hardware is like. Are you trying the 32bit or 64bit.

I think most of us think that it's quite good. I think it's better
than XP at the same stage of development. I think it takes more
hardware to run it, but what major OS upgrade hasn't needed A grade
hardware when it was released.

If your trying to load it on your eMachine you bought from Kmart two
years ago, we understand your frustration....

Major

 

[Jimmy Brush]

I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected

with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.

Actually, I imagine this will be much easier. As programs begin to conform
to new programming guidelines, it will be much easier to tell the good from
the bad when looking at global settings.

 

[Travis King]

I personally don't like Vista, but I don't dislike it either. I'm still
experiencing a lot of problems with Vista at RC2. Search Indexer has
crashed twice in the less than a week that I've had RC2, WMP11's still very
slow and always eats 30% of my CPU just to play a song. (Thanks mfpmp.exe
for eating 10% of it and DWM for another 10-15% - it always does this when
WMP is open for some reason.) I can't network with the other computers in
the house as Vista freezes up any time that I try to transfer something to
another computer or Vista drops my Internet connection (which is LAN by the
way - not WAN) anytime another computer access my network folder. Paint
still has the same bug that I've had with it since Beta 2. When I save
things to the desktop in this build, the icons for the saved items do not
show up until I refresh the desktop. I think the disk defragmenter is less
than decent - it doesn't even show you the progress or a legend. I also
dislike the sound recorder - why did they downgrade it. I pre-schooler who
didn't know how to read could use it - there's only one button. Oh well, I
use Audacity for sound recording now anyway.
Now if they could get most of these issues fixed with Vista by RTM
(which I bet isn't far away at all) then I might be very happy with Vista.
Knowing it's feature complete, I doubt the disk defragmenter and the sound
recorder will be replaced by now. I will, however, be pretty upset if
Microsoft releases Vista the way it is. I've seen quite a few people on
here who have had too many troubles with RC2 and had better luck with RC1.
The UAC does annoy me, but at least you can shut it off. I feel that
customizing Vista is worse than customizing XP - there aren't as many
options for some things such as hibernation - where can you disable it now?
How can you change the amount of HD space system restore uses now? I can't
seem to find them anymore. I even did a search for Hibernation in the
search box in the control panel, and it came up with a result, but there was
no option anywhere there for hibernation at all. Now I will say that this
so called RC2 is actually only an interim release, so it's expected not be
the greatest, but if it releases to store shelves and I can't get the
networking to work, I will be pretty you know what. Out of the five builds
of Vista I've tested, I've only seen two builds that did not have network
problems - PreRC1 5536 and RC1 5600. I started having network problems in
5728 and this build.
Now I'm not saying Vista is all bad - if they could get these
approximately ten issues fixed, I would be pretty happy. If the network
doesn't work - it won't be good.
System Specs:
Asus K8N motherboard (socket 754)
-using onboard networking
AMD Sempron 64 2800+ OC'd @ 1.8GHz (Windows Experience Index Rating - 3.7)
1.5GB of RAM (Windows Experience Index Rating - 4.1)
Ati Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8x - 256MB GDDR2 RAM (Windows Experience Index
Rating - graphics - 4.4, gaming graphics - 4.9)
WD 80GB 7200RPM 2MB cache IDE hard drive - XP
WD 120GB 7200RPM 8MB cache IDE hard drive - Vista 32-bit Ultimate RC2 5744
on 60GB partition (Windows Experience Index Rating - 5.0)
Creative Audigy (5.1 24-bit)

 

[TedF]

I have Dual core Intel with a very new motherboard.
Installation went very smooth, I have no hardware
problems, Using the 32 Bit.
Take it back, it has hard time recognizing my second
Network card network, it did for once then lost it
upon a reboot. XP was just as bad.
I just don't like the software, it is made for the
Geek Squad and computer companies to make money
trouble shooting and fixing it.

 

[TedF]

Those inaccessible folders were never accessible
by any antivirus software. You had to manually
squeeze them out. Doubt very much antivirus companies
are getting better, they are actually getting worse since
they all outsource their programming to India.

 

[Kerry Brown]

Those inaccessible folders were never accessible
by any antivirus software. You had to manually
squeeze them out. Doubt very much antivirus companies
are getting better, they are actually getting worse since
they all outsource their programming to India.

Are Indian programmers inherently worse than other nationalities?

 

[Major Drunkdey]

Friend, I can't say I read all of this long post, but I think you are
telling us you are running the 64 bit version.

Save all your important files and download and install the 32bit
version. Even though you have a 64bit CPU the 32bit version is easier
to work with right now. I have a 64bit CPU and have hated trying to
get the 64bit version to run smooth.

Also, DO NOT UPGRADE. Blow the sucker away and load fresh. That
means choosing format during the install process.

Good luck.

Major

 

[Major Drunkdey]

Are Indian programmers inherently worse than other nationalities?

No but their women are SO pretty and hot it's hard for them to
concentrate.

Dark brown eyes, long dark hair, big full breasts, cute smiles. Could
you stay at your keyboard if she was in your bed in draped in silk?

( Oh how I miss my job in India )

Major

 

[Guest]

Hello Travis,
For Hibernation try the button to the left of the lock button after
selecting START
Looks like (!)

 

[TedF]

No they are just starting from scratch.
Yes, they lack Western Knowledge.

 

[Frank]

TedF wrot
....Yes, they lack Western Knowledge.

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WTF is "Western Knowledge"?
Frank

 

[Travis King]

I meant I wanted to know how to disable hibernation. Thanks for the
attempt. I do not see hibernation in the list of shut-down options, so
perhaps it's already disabled, although there was 1.5GB of things for
hibernation with disk cleanup...

 

[Guest]

I think you forget that this is still a test platform. Yes, some things you
don't like will still be there, but most of the problems will be fixed.
Now, if you don't like Vista, uninstall it, set XP back up, and vow to never
buy Vista. I am sure there will still be support for XP for a long time,
heck, I still see support items for Win 98, and that was almost 10 years ago.
No one is saying you have to have Vista, if you don't like it, don't buy it.

 

[Jane C]

Travis, if you don't see Hibernation as an option in the dropdown list, then
it's already disabled. Did you use disk cleanup to remove the hibernation
file? If so, then it's disabled. Gone.

 

[TedF]

I think you forget that this is still a test platform.
No I didn't, I just don't like all the new features, the extra
unnecessary security.
I don't like that non of the 3rd party software work on Vista,
they all need updating.

Now, if you don't like Vista, uninstall it,

I bought a hard drive for it, all I have to do is format it.
I am not that stupid, to install a beta over my OS.

I am sure there will still be support for XP for a long time,

That is not the point.
The point is I hate to see Microsoft go down the drain
and ruin good operating systems such as XP and Win98,
and replace them with this pile of junk. Which means future
operating system going to be worse.
I don't want to list all the things I don't like about it, because
we will be arguing for ever.

 

[TedF]

WTF is "Western Knowledge"?

We do it different.

 

[Kerry Brown]

You know this from first hand experience? Have you been to India? Have you
met any Indian programmers? I haven't been to India but I have met a few
Indian programmers. They seemed the same as other programmers to me. Some
were good, some weren't. Are Russian programmers also inferior? How about
Brazilian programmers?

 

[Kevin L. Kitchens]

Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
junk.
They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
much harder for the user with many popup worthless
security messages.
I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.

Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.

Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.

And the ignorant survive like roaches.

 

[TedF]

It has nothing to do where the person is from.
They lack the general knowledge and common sense
that we have.
India population is over one billion, and they haven't
accomplished 1/1000 of what we accomplished in the US.
If they were that good, then they would be way ahead of us.