Vista is much nicer if you turn off UAC

D

David Deley

I hated Vista--until I turned off UAC. This solved a whole
LOT of problems, and made Vista a useable operating system
again. UAC breaks a lot of stuff that it's not entirely
obvious will be broken. Turn off UAC, and programs start
working again like they're supposed to, and that annoying
message, "Windows needs your permission to continue," no
longer shows up. I no longer have the urge to heave my Vista
laptop out the window as far as I can in disgust. I no longer
have a huge desire to downgrade my Vista computer back to
Windows XP.

(Of course turning off UAC is less secure, and I know some people
prefer to keep UAC on, but I figure with UAC off the OS isn't
any less secure than Windows XP was. Always have an anti-virus
program running.)

To turn off UAC:
1. Go to Control Panel
2. Open User Accounts
3. select "Turn User Account Control on or off"
4 Remove the checkmark from the "turn user account control on/off" section
5. UAC is now disabled.

More with Vista:
How to set the start menu back to Windows XP style:
CONTROL PANEL -> TASKBAR AND START MENU -> START MENU(tab) -> Classic
Start menu


Don't like the new look or color of Vista's Aero?
Stardock WindowBlinds
http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds

Some fun links:
Mac vs. PC security
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov


South Park parody of Mac vs. PC


You can use a free program called DoOver which is a keystroke and mouse
recorder. Download it at:

http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/#DoOver

There's DoOver.exe & DoOver.ahk . You only need to download the
DoOver.exe . This is not an install file; this is the actual program.

Run DoOver.exe

an icon appears in the system tray.

Then:
Left CTRL+F12 - Start & stop recording
Left CTRL+F5 - playback recorded

DoOver is written using the free AutoHotKey Scripting language.
AutoHotKey is not required to run DoOver. But you can look at AutoHotKey
as a free program with a scripting language. AutoHotKey Macros are plain
text files with .AHK file extension.

http://www.autohotkey.com/
http://www.autohotkey.net/

AutoHotKey comes with an AutoScriptWriter (recorder), but there's
apparently no documentation on how to use it.

There's also a new Beta replacement for AutoScriptWriter at
http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23671
 
T

thetruthhurts

I hated Vista--until I turned off UAC. This solved a whole
LOT of problems, and made Vista a useable operating system
again. UAC breaks a lot of stuff that it's not entirely
obvious will be broken. Turn off UAC, and programs start
working again like they're supposed to, and that annoying
message, "Windows needs your permission to continue," no
longer shows up. I no longer have the urge to heave my Vista
laptop out the window as far as I can in disgust. I no longer
have a huge desire to downgrade my Vista computer back to
Windows XP.

(Of course turning off UAC is less secure, and I know some people
prefer to keep UAC on, but I figure with UAC off the OS isn't
any less secure than Windows XP was. Always have an anti-virus
program running.)

To turn off UAC:
1. Go to Control Panel
2. Open User Accounts
3. select "Turn User Account Control on or off"
4 Remove the checkmark from the "turn user account control on/off" section
5. UAC is now disabled.

More with Vista:
How to set the start menu back to Windows XP style:
CONTROL PANEL -> TASKBAR AND START MENU -> START MENU(tab) -> Classic
Start menu


Don't like the new look or color of Vista's Aero?
Stardock WindowBlinds
http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds

Some fun links:
Mac vs. PC security
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov


South Park parody of Mac vs. PC


You can use a free program called DoOver which is a keystroke and mouse
recorder. Download it at:

http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/#DoOver

There's DoOver.exe & DoOver.ahk . You only need to download the
DoOver.exe . This is not an install file; this is the actual program.

Run DoOver.exe

an icon appears in the system tray.

Then:
Left CTRL+F12 - Start & stop recording
Left CTRL+F5 - playback recorded

DoOver is written using the free AutoHotKey Scripting language.
AutoHotKey is not required to run DoOver. But you can look at AutoHotKey
as a free program with a scripting language. AutoHotKey Macros are plain
text files with .AHK file extension.

http://www.autohotkey.com/
http://www.autohotkey.net/

AutoHotKey comes with an AutoScriptWriter (recorder), but there's
apparently no documentation on how to use it.

There's also a new Beta replacement for AutoScriptWriter at
http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23671
Click to expand...

A voice of reason, yeah!
 
S

SG

Well if you are going to disable everything, change everything to look and
feel like XP, then why the heck have Vista at all?
 
J

John Smith

why do you hate something that is there to protect you? To make your every
minute of your life a horrible torture? You don't like things popping in
your face all the time, that you ignore anyway, and your hand has been
subconsciously trained, after tens of thousands of clicks, to blindly press
the OK button anyway?

WHYY?????? WHy do you say this???? Whyyyyy???????

This is one of the reasons Vista is said to be MORE SECURE>> AHAHAHAHA..

vista is not more secure than XP.. its more STUPID!

Vista is full of bad ideas... in fact the only think I like about vista is
the thumbnails.. LOL

And linux does that better ! lol
 
D

David

SG said:
Well if you are going to disable everything, change everything to look
and feel like XP, then why the heck have Vista at all?
Click to expand...
gee, brainiac, maybe, just maybe Vista came on a new machine the OP
purchased.
 
A

alexB

That is a GOOOOOOD point.

SG said:
Well if you are going to disable everything, change everything to look and
feel like XP, then why the heck have Vista at all?
Click to expand...
 
D

DanS

Well if you are going to disable everything, change everything to look
and feel like XP, then why the heck have Vista at all?
Click to expand...

What an overblown and exaggerated conclusion to the OP that is.

Disabling UAC is disabling everything ?

And changing the start menu to classic menu is changing the look and feel
of everything back to XP ?

UAC is poorly implemented and the Start Menu gets varied reviews anyway.
 
A

AlexB

You attached your post to the wrong poster. I never advocated that, however,
contrary to what you are saying I've seen such statements at official MS
websites although perhaps careful reading could have filtered in some
limitations. Perhaps they meant: return to XP in some specific sense but I
do not recall.
 
J

John Smith

how much are you willing to bet that I have vista?

Oh I have vista alright.. its sitting on a parition of my drive that I
seldom boot to becuase VISTA IS A PILE OF CRAP!

I even boot to linux more than I boot to crapy vista... its horrible an OS
made for STUPIDS like you.
 
N

Not Me

DanS said:
What an overblown and exaggerated conclusion to the OP that is.

Disabling UAC is disabling everything ?

And changing the start menu to classic menu is changing the look and feel
of everything back to XP ?

UAC is poorly implemented and the Start Menu gets varied reviews anyway.
Click to expand...

If everyone liked the same things, we would have 1 brand each of cars,
electronics, furniture, food, etc
Some like the look and feel of Vista, some don't.
You can argue over it until the world freezes or boils away (depending on
your take on global warming/cooling), but that doesn't make anyone right.
I personally don't like most of the changes in Vista, but to those who do,
great, enjoy.
In the meantime, I will turn off UAC, use the classic menu, disable all the
eye candy (even with my new 1GB Video card) and install my programs outside
of Program Files.
 
A

AlexB

I think I had a thought of disabling UAC very early when I began doing Vista
because it was so difficult to handle everything but some very wise people
at MSDN warned me very softly that it would be a foolish undertaking. I soon
realized how correct they were..

In fact UAC with all its peculiarities becomes a part of you and you start
appreciating it greatly. It focuses your attention on security matters as
never before. Now I take it for granted.
 
F

forty-nine

John said:
how much are you willing to bet that I have vista?

Oh I have vista alright.. its sitting on a parition of my drive that I
seldom boot to becuase VISTA IS A PILE OF CRAP!

I even boot to linux more than I boot to crapy vista... its horrible an OS
made for STUPIDS like you.
Click to expand...

Could you stop top posting you stupid dingus .
It throws the order of these critical post out of wack.

I know you don't own Vista...but I wouldn't bet you.
I don't doubt you could find a friend with a job to let you post from
his Vista.
If he lives downhill from you, you can fly the Bozo Bin to his house.
 
S

Steve Thackery

In fact UAC with all its peculiarities becomes a part of you and you
start appreciating it greatly. It focuses your attention on security
matters as never before. Now I take it for granted.
Click to expand...

I agree. UAC prompts are no different from the elevation prompts generated
by Linux and Mac OSX. I very much appreciate the OS warning me when
something with security implications is about to happen.

If you make your account an administrator, you don't even have to enter a
password - just a single click at the UAC prompt is all that's needed. It's
a complete non-issue. And no - making your account an administrator does
NOT hinder security on a single user machine.

SteveT
 
J

John Smith

I had preordered vista before it was even released.. I am probably one of
the first people that had RTM...

but long before that I had longorn, vista betas, and vista RC's

I know all about vista, thats why I know its CRAP!
 
T

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

AlexB said:
I think I had a thought of disabling UAC very early when I began doing
Vista because it was so difficult to handle everything but some very
wise people at MSDN warned me very softly that it would be a foolish
undertaking. I soon realized how correct they were..

In fact UAC with all its peculiarities becomes a part of you and you
start appreciating it greatly. It focuses your attention on security
matters as never before. Now I take it for granted.
Click to expand...

UAC is a sad wanna be of of a security feature that linux users have had
for years.

Agreed. The fact you can customize windows so much is one of it's
features. Why would someone want to knock that?

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B

Bob

Instead of completely turning off UAC you can turn off the UAC prompts and
still have the security of UAC.
 

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