Vista Beta 2 Ultimate Edition w/o Glass?

[George Spiro]

Hi,

I just installed Windows Vista Beta 2 Ultimate Edition, everything is
working fine but I am not able to find the option to load up Glass. I am
wondering if this is due that I dont have proper display drivers for my
M400. The tablet is packed with a Intel 965GM Graphic Card (I know not the
most fancy card).

I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this matter.

Thanks alot,

G.

 

[George Spiro]

I guess the key word for now is that they "will". I guess I got no choice to
wait

G.

 

[Robert Moir]

To get AERO Glass, your video card needs to support the Windows
Display Driver Model (WDDM), with a minimum of 64-MBs vRAM. If its
shared system memory, it needs to be configured with a minimum of 1
GB dual channel memory, with 512 MBs going to OS.

The Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 on both the Intel® 945G and
Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipsets will support the Windows Vista
Display Driver model (WDDM) drivers.

http://www.intel.com/business/bss/products/client/vistasolutions/mobile.htm

What's real interesting about this is that the new Core Duo Apple notebooks
(MacBook with the 950 graphics, MacBook Pro with the ATI X1600) may actually
be among the best mobiles for running the new microsoft operating system.


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[George Spiro]

Maybe but there is not support from Intel. Intel once again being too lazy
to code some decent drivers.

 

[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

Maybe they are just not ready with the drivers. I agree with Robert, those
MacBook Pro's are definitely vistable capable, all they need is WDDM drivers
for the graphics and we are set to go.
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[Robert Moir]

Maybe but there is not support from Intel. Intel once again being too
lazy to code some decent drivers.

It's frustrating for all of us but I'd rather they took their time and did
it "right".

I doubt laziness is the reason for the delay. It wasn't until fairly late on
in the Windows XP beta cycle when lots of manufacturers started to get their
act together for drivers there. What with the new driver structure and the
changing spec of the product it isn't much of a push to see a company decide
to wait until things are clear before starting work on code.

 

[Robert Moir]

Maybe they are just not ready with the drivers. I agree with Robert,
those MacBook Pro's are definitely vistable capable, all they need is
WDDM drivers for the graphics and we are set to go.

I think ATI do them don't they? The Pro uses the ATI X1600 - should be good
to go already.

When Intel get around to the 950 drivers the MacBook non-pro should do fine
too. Just got one of these the other day in fact, it's one sweet machine.
I'm waiting for a memory upgrade I have on order before I install Windows of
any kind on it though.

rob

 

[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

Yes, ATI is doing the graphics for most of the Intel Macs now, the PPC ones
used a combination of nVidia and ATI. Yep, the ATI drivers are definitely
available for the Radeon Mobility X1600, so AERO Glass should work just fine
on the MacBook Pro. Just that getting Vista installed on it is gonna be
hurdle and might not be supported until Apple bundles Boot Camp in OS 10.5
as an incentive upgrade.
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[Robert Moir]

Yes, ATI is doing the graphics for most of the Intel Macs now, the
PPC ones used a combination of nVidia and ATI. Yep, the ATI drivers
are definitely available for the Radeon Mobility X1600, so AERO Glass
should work just fine on the MacBook Pro. Just that getting Vista
installed on it is gonna be hurdle

I'll let you know as soon as my memory upgrade arrives and I can test it.

 

[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

Looking forward to hearing your results.
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[George Spiro]

I am curious how did this thread turn into a MAC discussion over my Tablet
PC.lol

G.

 

[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

I tell ya, that Apple has a way of always sneaking in!
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I am curious how did this thread turn into a MAC discussion over my Tablet
PC.lol

G.

Looking forward to hearing your results.
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Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
Yes, ATI is doing the graphics for most of the Intel Macs now, the
PPC ones used a combination of nVidia and ATI. Yep, the ATI drivers
are definitely available for the Radeon Mobility X1600, so AERO Glass
should work just fine on the MacBook Pro. Just that getting Vista
installed on it is gonna be hurdle

I'll let you know as soon as my memory upgrade arrives and I can test
it.

 

[Guest]

I got glass on vista beta 2 to work well on a macbook (with 1gb of dual
channel). The glass actually worked really well. The OS actually /seemed/
faster with glass enabled. The driver i was using is pre-beta so it had worse
side effects (cant come back from sleep/hibernate) so i am going without for
now. Basically...it looks like the driver is on its way...and when it comes
it will shine with the 950.

Maybe they are just not ready with the drivers. I agree with Robert, those
MacBook Pro's are definitely vistable capable, all they need is WDDM drivers
for the graphics and we are set to go.
--
--
Andre
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Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

Maybe but there is not support from Intel. Intel once again being too lazy
to code some decent drivers.

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
To get AERO Glass, your video card needs to support the Windows
Display Driver Model (WDDM), with a minimum of 64-MBs vRAM. If its
shared system memory, it needs to be configured with a minimum of 1
GB dual channel memory, with 512 MBs going to OS.

The Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 on both the Intel® 945G and
Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipsets will support the Windows Vista
Display Driver model (WDDM) drivers.

http://www.intel.com/business/bss/products/client/vistasolutions/mobile.htm

What's real interesting about this is that the new Core Duo Apple
notebooks (MacBook with the 950 graphics, MacBook Pro with the ATI X1600)
may actually be among the best mobiles for running the new microsoft
operating system.


--
--
Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP
Blog Site - http://www.robertmoir.com
Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
I'm always surprised at "professionals" who STILL have to be asked "Have
you checked (event viewer / syslog)".

 

[Guest]

can u download the Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950?

 

[Guest]

Glass works fine if you just install the Intel Lakeport drivers.

For detailed directions, see:

http://slashstar.com/blogs/alex/archive/2006/06/13/M400VistaBeta2AeroGlassGMA950.aspx

The trick is to UN-check "Show compatible hardware" and manually select the
Intel Lakeport drivers. By default you'll just get the GMA 950 drivers which
don't support Glass in Beta 2. Those instructions should work for anything
that has an Intel GMA 950 (including Toshiba M400 and MacBook). There is a
memory requirement because the display adapter steals system RAM; not sure if
you need 512 MB or 1 GB.

There is some confusion about this but it DOES work. See also:

http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...&tid=afde3594-e79e-49ce-8db5-dbc1fd2abc63&p=1

http://everythingapple.blogspot.com/2006/06/video-macbook-running-windows-vista.html

http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=17885&st=20

-k.

 

[Guest]

It worked in my Toshiba M400!!

Glass works fine if you just install the Intel Lakeport drivers.

For detailed directions, see:

http://slashstar.com/blogs/alex/archive/2006/06/13/M400VistaBeta2AeroGlassGMA950.aspx

The trick is to UN-check "Show compatible hardware" and manually select the
Intel Lakeport drivers. By default you'll just get the GMA 950 drivers which
don't support Glass in Beta 2. Those instructions should work for anything
that has an Intel GMA 950 (including Toshiba M400 and MacBook). There is a
memory requirement because the display adapter steals system RAM; not sure if
you need 512 MB or 1 GB.

There is some confusion about this but it DOES work. See also:

http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...&tid=afde3594-e79e-49ce-8db5-dbc1fd2abc63&p=1

http://everythingapple.blogspot.com/2006/06/video-macbook-running-windows-vista.html

http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=17885&st=20

-k.

 

[CM]

But I found if not use default 945GM Driver come from Windows Update. The
Vista will not support Projector for external projection. Is this Lakeport
driver support projector? Thank you

CM