Vista and Virus detection

[Jack Ryan]

There have been a few news media reports that Microsoft and the
anti-virus vendors are not getting along relative to Vista.

Will/does Vista have it's own, built-in AV? If not, and the mentioned
conflict is not resolved, what's the solution?

tkx

 

[John Barnes]

There are plenty of A/V products for Vista

 

[Tom Ziegmann]

Vista itself has no built in AV but Microsoft has their own product called
OneCare that will work on Vista. Vista however does have built in spyware
protection. AFAICT, I have used McAfee, Symantec, Kaspersky, and CA
antivirus software on every build of Vista that I have used and have never
had a problem. I could be wrong but I think that the AV manufacturers are
just upset that MS is cutting into their profits.

--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft Core OS Beta Tester

*Feel free to contact me via e-mail if you
have an urgent issue, otherwise please use
the newsgroups*

 

[Jimmy Brush]

Hello,

Vista does not have built-in Virus protection. The issue AV manufacturers
have is the way in which Vista protects itself from modification. AV vendors
want to be able to modify core Windows code in order to do their magic, but
MS says no - if we let YOU do that, then it might be possible for
virus-authors to do the same thing. It's kind of an all-or-nothing affair.

MS is working with AV vendors to allow them to do the things they need to do
without negatively affecting system security and stability, but this will
take time.

 

[Rick Rogers]

Hi,

Only the two major ones are really complaining (Symantec and McAfee), mostly
because they are losing their grip on the market. Many are getting along in
Vista just fine, see:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/update/windowsvistaRC1AV.mspx

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Jack Ryan]

Thank you all for the replies. They are helpful and informative.

 

[Nero]

Symantec will NOT work in Vista.

Vista itself has no built in AV but Microsoft has their own product called
OneCare that will work on Vista. Vista however does have built in spyware
protection. AFAICT, I have used McAfee, Symantec, Kaspersky, and CA
antivirus software on every build of Vista that I have used and have never
had a problem. I could be wrong but I think that the AV manufacturers are
just upset that MS is cutting into their profits.

--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft Core OS Beta Tester

*Feel free to contact me via e-mail if you
have an urgent issue, otherwise please use
the newsgroups*

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

Symantec will NOT work in Vista.

Symantec's "Enterprise" A/V's work, but the current Norton home products
don't.

 

[Dr. Heywood Floyd]

Yes - No - Yes ??? Now I'm really confused!

I sure hope there is a good 'home' version of some AV that works well with Vista becuase I don't
think I'll be able to use Windows Live OneCare unless there are some options for turning off
it's Tune-Up plus some defrag and backup options. The defrag and backup features are there just
no way of telling what/when to do.

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

Try Avast 4.7 for the Beta and RC versions of Vista, then NOD32 when you
have a retail copy of Vista.

 

[Stuart]

The version of AVG recommended by Vista's security centre has issues on my
RC2 installation

 

[Rob Atkinson]

AVG 7.5.430 has been released that works great with the RTM version, so am
assuming ditto for RC1/RC2..?

 

[John Barnes]

Sorry to hear that. What are the issues, and have you contacted them. I
used it in beta, and other than the UAC annoyance, it seemed to work fine.
That was Vista32. Have not installed on Vista64 RC1.

 

[Scott]

Dr. Heywood Floyd spake thusly on 11/12/2006 2:37 AM:

Yes - No - Yes ??? Now I'm really confused!

I sure hope there is a good 'home' version of some AV that works well
with Vista becuase I don't think I'll be able to use Windows Live
OneCare unless there are some options for turning off it's Tune-Up plus
some defrag and backup options. The defrag and backup features are
there just no way of telling what/when to do.

I don't know about you but Vista *itself* directed me to compatible anti
virus software. That's how I ended up with CA when running RC1. I'm
not particularly fond of CA, so I later switched to Trend Micro (which
they also promoted).

Right now I'm using Avast on RC2. You can bet that by the time Vista is
released to consumers in January that the the folks at Symantec and
McAfee will have consumer versions of their AV products for Vista on the
shelves as well.

 

[Roy Coorne]

Right now I'm using Avast on RC2. You can bet that by the time Vista is
released to consumers in January that the the folks at Symantec and
McAfee will have consumer versions of their AV products for Vista on the
shelves as well.

Even then you are better off with Avast - or Kaspersky or NOD32, if
you are willing to pay for the virus scanner.


Roy

 

[Dennis Pack]

Scott:
I can see that you prefer to bottom post. I think that it's fantastic since
that's what you prefer. Your statement that top posting changes our normal
way of reading is flawed. I spend many more hours on a computer for business
purposes. With E-mail a response is on top with the previous messages
following for reference. When working on a project or most programs the
listings are listed in order by time/date so that the latest information is
available first. That makes top posting more in line with what I do the
majority of the time. I won't try to get into in-line or side posting which
are also options.
The one thing that could be done whether top or bottom posting is to snip
all information other what you're replying to. That would clean things up
more than a debate of which is proper. I occasionally snip information and
should do it more. The downfall to snipping information is that it can
change the context of what's being said.
Have a great day.

 

[Tom Ziegmann]

Im currently beta testing NIS 2007 for Vista and it works just fine for me
on Vista RC2, and Longhorn Server 5744.

--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft Core OS Beta Tester

*Feel free to contact me via e-mail if you
have an urgent issue, otherwise please use
the newsgroups*

 

[Scott]

Roy Coorne spake thusly on 11/12/2006 10:31 AM:

Even then you are better off with Avast - or Kaspersky or NOD32, if you
are willing to pay for the virus scanner.

Well I've not touched anything from McAfee since the pre-NAI days.
Symantec on the other hand. I have, quite a bit actually. That was till
about a year ago when I vowed never to use any of their products again
(for a variety of reasons). I'm not particularly fond of their company,
it's products or what it does to the products of companies it acquires.

If they gave me NSW 2007 for free, I'd throw it back at them.

 

[Scott]

Roy Coorne spake thusly on 11/12/2006 10:31 AM:

Even then you are better off with Avast - or Kaspersky or NOD32, if you
are willing to pay for the virus scanner.

Well I've not touched anything from McAfee since the pre-NAI days.
Symantec on the other hand. I have, quite a bit actually. That was till
about a year ago when I vowed never to use any of their products again
(for a variety of reasons). I'm not particularly fond of their company,
it's products or what it does to the products of companies it acquires.

If they gave me NSW 2007 for free, I'd throw it back at them.

 

[Jeff]

Hey Tom,
You in that too?
Say hi to Tony for me. jk
lol
I left that beta; for the time being; and am beta'ing NOD32 for vista 32bit.

Jeff