Virtual Memory too Low?

[Guest]

So I go to save my video that I've just made. Its about 9 and a half minutes
and comprised of about 115 short clips. Some of which are reapted. And it
has about...25 title thingys. I noticed when I compiled/saved previous
versions of this movie that were shorter there was a huge jump in the amount
of RAM and virtual memory that was being used. Infact, I had to increase my
Virtual Memory vastly just to get the previous versions to compile. Right
now my Virutal memory is maxing out at about 3500 MB! When I go to compile
it I watch the virtual memory used skyrocketing but stoping around 1.8 gigs,
setteling at about 1.2 gigs and then a few minutes later WMM gives me the
standard "Can't save this, check the locatation...blah blah blah." All the
clips were compressed using the Microsoft MPEG-4 Codec and I don't think any
of them go above 20 MB...if even that. And according to WMM the file size
when done should only be about 80 MB. So whats with the huge spike in
Virtual memory use and why won't my movie save?

 

[Guest]

Mpegs don't work well in Movie Maker. You need to convert those clips to
AVI, or WMV, or a compatible format. I use AVS Converter ($29.95) but there
are other ways to convert also....check out PapaJohn's site on formats and
saving movies.
Read other questions and comments on here and you'll likely see the solution
also.
Good luck.

 

[John Kelly]

Hello,

You may be able to get a free converter from www.videohelp.com/convert. A
site generally considered the best in the world on video matters

--
John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
Truthfully, I am not an Instant Expert, But I know someone who is going to
have to try a LOT harder
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[Rehan]

Interesting! Please specify the article reference too.

Just wondering how would one make the transition length equal to clip B
length ? It seems that it would always stay somewhat less. If you try to
drag it further to increase the overlap in TImeline View, it will just swap
places from clip A. Can you achieve it?

--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker




May not necessarily be related to this, but it could be. So might be worth
checking.

Save Movie Wizard
"Cannot Complete the Save Movie Wizard"
"Your movie was not saved successfully."


"Windows Movie Maker cannot save the movie to the specified location.
Verify that the original source files used in your movie are still
available, that the saving location is still available, and that there is
enough free disk space available, and then try again."







Summary

Some times when a transition is applied between two video clips (A & B) in
which the transition is equal in length to second video clip (B), or perhaps
either or both clips (A and/or B), saving as DV-AVI (NTSC) will fail. Once
this occurs Windows Movie Maker will most likely need to be shutdown and
restarted. Also it may cause problems with the Windows Movie Maker project
and require inconvenient measures to recover.



Trigger

Transition with length equal to video clip B. Or perhaps A and/or B.



Reproducibility

This issue seems to be video clip length dependent in that it works with the
same clips if they are a certain length. For instance the two video clips
used to produce the above message for the screen capture where A 3.47
seconds and B 2.93 seconds with a fade transition of 2.93 seconds. But they
worked fine as A 4.00 seconds, B 3.00 seconds, and fade transition of 3.00
seconds.



Have not been able to reproduce using still images as clips A & B.



Recovery

One of the following two methods may be necessary in order to save the movie
as DV-AVI (NTSC). Though neither method is guaranteed to be necessary or
successful.



Method 1:

1) Shutdown Windows Movie Maker. A runtime error will likely be
displayed.

2) Reopen the Windows Movie Maker project

3) Make sure there are no transitions equal in length with either
associated clip (A/B). If there are make the transition slightly shorter.

4) Save the Windows Movie Maker project.

5) Close Windows Movie Maker.

6) Reopen the Windows Movie Maker project.

7) Try saving movie to DV-AVI (NTSC) again



Method 2:

1) Perform steps 1 through 6 of method 1 above.

2) Click on the first clip in the time-line.

3) Select each of the clips in the timeline - Click on the first clip
in the time-line, then hold the <Ctrl> key and click on each of the rest of
the clips in the time-line. (Do not use select all methods, (Ctrl-A, Shift
Click, etc.)

4) Copy - Hold the <Ctrl> key and press the C key.

5) Close Windows Movie Maker.

6) Open Windows Movie Maker.

7) Past to the time-line - Hold the <Ctrl> key and press the P key.

8) Try saving movie to DV-AVI (NTSC) again.


Copyright © 2005, Al Stu (2348410). All Rights Reserved.

 

[Al Stu - MVP]

LOL

You should give your "MS MVP -- Digital Media" to someone else.

 

[John Kelly]

LOL or Ouch !!!!!

Nah lets make it
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I don't quite know how to say this, people are going to think I am posting
messages using your name....Cracking reply.

--
John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
Truthfully, I am not an Instant Expert, But I know someone who is going to
have to try a LOT harder
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[Al Stu - MVP]

Yea, well you'd better cut-it-out before I sick the MVP's (Microsoft Virtual
Police) on ya.



BTW, looks like they censored my reply. Which is really too sad, sad than
sad the tears of a clown, because I thought it was hilarious, if I do say so
myself. But even so, not half as hilarious as an "MS-MVP -- Digital Media"
asking those questions.



The cliché, "there is no such thing as a stupid/dumb question" has just been
proven wrong. See there your nemesis is good for something after all.

 

[JK]

Hello,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Stu - MVP" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: Virtual Memory too Low?

Yea, well you'd better cut-it-out before I sick the MVP's (Microsoft
Virtual Police) on ya.

Sorry

BTW, looks like they censored my reply. Which is really too sad, sad than
sad the tears of a clown, because I thought it was hilarious, if I do say
so myself. But even so, not half as hilarious as an "MS-MVP -- Digital
Media" asking those questions.

Microsoft have censored your message!!!! I can't be certain of course but I
would have that to do that would be to commit a crime in the USA (Unless you
gave them permission that is) It must be something equivelent to messing
with the post.

The cliché, "there is no such thing as a stupid/dumb question" has just
been proven wrong. See there your nemesis is good for something after
all.

Ah yes the Demi-Goddess Nemisis.She has a lot to answer for !!.my clasical
education has not been used in many years And that reminds me of last
names commented on else where as being rude to call someone by their last
name. I was quite proud of Kelly Secundus and later just Kelly...I guess
that their really is inverted snobery

John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
I'm not a snob!!! Be away with you, you horrible goblin, low of birth and
foul of breath, Be Away say I

 

[Wojo]

But apparently only considered "the best" by you and I since I never see
anybody else recommend it.
-Wojo

 

[Wojo]

He didn't say the clips STARTED at the same time though as your thinking.
He only said they were the same length.
-Wojo

 

[Al Stu - MVP]

Well I know the message posted because my news reader downloaded it as well
as your reply. But neither exist in the web message board at MS Windows
Movie Maker site.

As for crime I don't know, I'm not an attorney. I would think that a
private company could certainly control content on there privately owned
networks, equipment etc. Where it might get gray would be a "public"
company such as Microsoft. And certainly I would think for the government.

The other gray part might be that since it's open to the public at large
without any sort of agreement and no real access controls, one might argue
it should be no different than people chatting on a street corner.

If you're world is flat, be careful not to step over the edge.

 

[JK]

Hello,

I was thinking along the lines of deleteing part of a message.....which
would most likely change the meaning of the resulting message. In the UK
that could turn into a very serious matter if the circumstances were right
and I would assume the same for the USA.

I used to have to attend a weekly meeting with a senior boss in my
organisation. Before we attended we would talk about what we were going to
say etc and it always ended up with him saying something along the lines of,
Come on, lets go get a cup of tea. Talking about the Flat Earth Society has
depressed me. Happy times

John Kelly

 

[Rach]

And me! I use it all the time!

Rach

But apparently only considered "the best" by you and I since I never see
anybody else recommend it.
-Wojo

 

[John Kelly]

Hello,

Its all a matter of Politics and who wants to stay in the "good books" of
certain people. (papajohn)

If you go back far enough you will find that he also used to recommend
it...in fact I think it was he who first introduced me to it. But he then
started with the now familiar story of how he must be right because he
posted to 52 newsgroups and some forums LOL. and because I was always
recommending it he stopped and for a very long time never mentioned it
again. If you look back a few weeks though you will see how he has started
to rubbish it...its a real laugh. He recently said that www.dvdhelp.com
only seemed to talk about MPeg's...well obviously it does...DVD's are made
using MPeg's !!!

But, about the site itself. www.videohelp.com is the only site I know of in
this field where you can ask a question and be given an answer. You do not
have to read endless reams of dross, most of which is suspect at best and
downright wrong/dangerous at worst in the hope that you will understand
what its saying and maybe find a link to a program that should solve your
problem. For me its exactly what an enthusiast's website should be...I
would love to have the needed skill to create a site like that.

--
Best Wishes, John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
Truthfully, I am not an Instant Expert, But I know someone who is going to
have to try a LOT harder
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All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work

 

[Wojo]

Awesome!

And me! I use it all the time!

Rach

 

[Wojo]

I agree completely.
I especially like the fact that you can specify the before and after formats
and then are given not only links to free and pay programs but a wealth of
information about the task to boot. I always do and always will recommend
videohelp.com to anybody looking for conversion as well as many other video
related issues.
-Wojo

 

[Wojo]

I would assume the same if "part" of the message body were deleted and/or
tampered with but if the entire message were deleted that's a different
story all together.
-Wojo