VB6 easier than VB.NET?

[Cor Ligthert]

Richard,

This is in my opinion a more complete message than your first answer. I
never do read every word (in whatever language). I try to get the intention
from the writer even when there are some things in it, that don't right
describes what he/she was wanting to say.

You saw my answer about the Cro Magnon and the Neanderthaler. When I
understand you well, than it describes for me in a way what you are writing
in the message I am answering now.

The survivor is not the in advance so called "strongest" but is often
because of fortuitous or changing environmental reasons.

About the last part of your message. In my opinion has everybody the right
to write too this newsgroup in the way that he/she prefers. Stephany's
message was for me about the subject, in a more general way. In my opinion
has she and I the right to do that.

About the length of a message. When you can say something with two words,
than my opinion is do not try to make a book from it. On the other hand, for
me is good programming to make an as short as possible program, however
there is no reason too use this attitude on other places and especially not
where something is only one time used. Something that developers often
forget.

Statistical is proven that woman use in general more words to pronounce
themselves than men do. However, therefore are in my idea not all women
directly "shitheads".

Cor

 

[Michael C#]

When the best argument you can make to dispute the validity of someone's
argument is to call her names, it speaks volumes about your mental state,
ability to formulate a complete argument and skill at expressing your
thoughts. Calling someone names doesn't speak to the issue at hand, or
disprove any points made by anyone else.

history.

she suggests what follows is going to back her so called truism.


Change does not "tend to be resisted". It simply isn't always immediately
accepted until its benefits have been sufficiently communicated, witnessed
and understood.

I can easily accept the argument that people don't like change. In my
personal experience, I have seen this proven time and again. You can find
historical context here - look at the Civil Rights movement. Certain groups
of people resisted change to the bitter end -- for no logical reason. They
were simply comfortable with the status quo, and uncomfortable with change.

People as a group get comfortable with a certain way of doing things, and
they offhandedly reject different methods - no matter how many ways you
prove to them that the new method is superior to the old. I've seen this in
the business world as well, although as a whole businesses tend to more
readily plan for, and adopt, new technology. I think most individuals'
adoption of new technology is driven largely by market pressure rather than
any great desire to change the status quo on their part.

 

[Howard Kaikow]

Once one gets used to it, VB .NET is easier for a "programmer" to use.

There are two major hurdles.

1. The VB .NET Help/documentation is awful.

Although much of the needed information is indeed somewhere in the Help
files, good luck in trying to find something quickly, especially if you have
not been previously exposed to VB 6.

Much of the Help/documentation includes links that require one to be online.
That's absurd. I'm not about to stay connected to the internet while
coding/testing, or to keep hoping on/off the internet.

2. It is far easier to do Office automation with VB 6 than with VB .NET.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Howard,

Once one gets used to it, VB .NET is easier for a "programmer" to use.

That might be true, but there are still people who would disagree.

There are two major hurdles.

1. The VB .NET Help/documentation is awful.

Full ACK!

2. It is far easier to do Office automation with VB 6 than with VB .NET.

Yup. The harnessed team VB6 and VBA is unsurpassed in productivity for
Microsoft Office development.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Cor,

Certainly not, are you afraid for VBNet. An inventive professional will
maybe wait a while; however not rely on an old product from Microsoft
anymore. He does not even know if the bugs created by the new updates can
harm his old product and has to work again to repair that.

It's an issue that Microsoft sees VB6 as an old product -- and the aim of
the petition is to give VB6 a future. The number of people who still use
VB6 indicates that VB6 is more current than people who don't use it might
think.

While he is with that loosing a lot of time and can spend better his time
with migrating it to VBNet.

If Microsoft continues support for Classic VB for the next 10 years, there
is no need to migrate.

 

[Cor Ligthert]

That might be true, but there are still people who would disagree.

Full ACK!

Completly not ACK,

I find the documentation on a very high level according to the amount of
possibilities. It does me think on the old days of IBM when from those the
documentation and support was their advantage.

Co

 

[Guest]

totally agree,
try going back to VB6 after VB.NET and a bit of C# for 3 years!

guy

 

[Michael C#]

What an absolute load of crap. Maybe thats just the way i felt. Not
everything in this world requires "expression" ad-infinitum.

Nothing is more impressive than a man who feeds off his emotions, Richard.
Once again, your inability to address the topic of discussion underscores
"the way I felt".

Responses like yours are so wanky Micheal. They are almost a cliche'.
Everyone trots one out on occasion but really is this supposed to
have any effect on me?

It doesn't matter one way or the other to me; I don't expect you to stop
being a wanker based on one newsgroup discussion, Richard. Your inability
to participate in an informed discussion, without resorting to name-calling
and juvenile theatrics, is on display for all to see, Richard.

*Speaks volumes about my mental state*, *Ability to form a complete
argument and skill at expressing your thoughts?*
Good god man, up our high horse aren't we? The fact that you can deduce so
much from so little would suggest your twice the idiot you seem.

Likewise, there's a troll in every crowd who throws out insults and
off-topic garbage in the middle of conversations they know nothing about -
presumably they get a thrill from seeing their own name on a Newsgroup post.
All I can deduce from what you've said so far is that you enjoy trying to
insult people, apparently you disagree with some people, and you have so far
not backed up a single statement you've made.

By the way, genius, the word you were searching for above is "you're", not
"your". It's amazing to me that you have the nerve to discuss someone
else's use of English when you are so poorly versed in its correct usage.

points made by anyone else.

Speaking of points? Whats yours? Im sure shes a *big* girl and can handle
it. Its not the end of the world for her.
Shes so unphased by the whole thing shes bearly had a response. What are
you?.. her knight in shining armour?

How gallent of you Micheal.

lol

As I'm sure Cor can easily point out to you, the word you were searching for
was "gallant", genius. I don't even care to address your ineptitude with
contractions.

As far as this thread goes, you've yet to make a valid point concerning the
topic of discussion, and I've no interest in your Grammar School logic.

I've run out of "Scooby Snacks", and have no interest in feeding the troll,
Richard.

LOL

 

[Rob Nicholson]

1. The VB .NET Help/documentation is awful.

VB6 was no better. The complexity of writing a system does not lie with the
langauge - it lies within the objects & APIs you have to use to get your job
done.

Rob.

 

[Michael C#]

LMAO

Thats right Mikey... just let it a-l-l out.


With respect to name calling clearly your standards are no higher than
mine. And as for juvenile well lets just say "Thanks for spelling lesson."
One thing that does interest me though is this statement:

You're quite "welcome for spelling lesson", Dick.

After such an impressive and sacarcism laden *blasting* about spelling
(clearly your?you're? quite upset at the moment), i can only hope you
didn't mean *contradictions*. If i can have just one more Scooby Snack
please Mike, perhaps you could elaborate?

It takes far more than an MS Public Newsgroup troll to upset me, Dick. If
you're confused as to the difference between a "contraction" and a
"contradiction", then take the statement at face value. If I've used a big
word that you don't understand, take a small detour to Dictionary.com. As
long as you're there, you might as well look up "sacarcism", "your",
"you're", "lets", "let's" and "don't". And don't stay up so late typing -
your ability to communicate appears to deteriorate (if that's at all
possible) as you get closer to nap time.

Enjoy the snack, Dick.

 

[Richard Myers]

It takes far more than an MS Public Newsgroup troll to upset me, Dick.

Well we both know thats not true. Anyone reading this subthread, regardless
of how they feel about my opening comments, could tell that you're really
quite wound up about all this. Theres nothing wrong with that by the way,
so i dunno why you're so bothered about admitting it.

If you're confused as to the difference between a "contraction" and a
"contradiction", then take the statement at face value.

Well i did take it at face value, face value=typo? I think after making
such a big deal about *spelling* of all things, (you must be a real nerd),
you clearly feel a little silly that you then went onto misspell something.
Either way the whole spelling thing is pretty infantile and seems an
especially anal thing to paint oneself into a corner over. It seems highly
reactionary and not at all responsive but then I suppose I should expect
that given you're so angry.

If I've used a big

word that you don't understand, take a small detour to Dictionary.com. As
long as you're there, you might as well look up "sacarcism", "your",
"you're", "lets", "let's" and "don't". And don't stay up so late typing
your ability to communicate appears to deteriorate (if that's at all
possible) as you get closer to nap time.

Well this just backs up my comments above.

Enjoy the snack, Dick.

No Mike i didn't. Unfortunately, like every other post ive read of yours
that little snack of yours was all packaging and zero substance.
If thats what you call a snack then you're clearly just some frilly apron
wearing house husband hobbist *developer* relying on his wife to "bring
home the bacon".
I can hope only for your sake you have an elder brother to take you out
from time to time and teach you how a real man eats. If you're not too busy
washing your hair that is.

Here pussy pussy pussy pussy!

 

[Richard Myers]

Richard,

In my opinion has everybody the right
to write too this newsgroup in the way that he/she prefers.

So whats your problem with my response then?

However, therefore are in my idea not all women
directly "shitheads".

How do you get *all women* from *one*? And if you required statistics to
teach you that very obvious lesson then
your probably spending far too much time in front of a computer.

 

[Richard Myers]

When the best argument you can make to dispute the validity of someone's
argument is to call her names, it speaks volumes about your mental state,
ability to formulate a complete argument and skill at expressing your
thoughts.

What an absolute load of crap. Maybe thats just the way i felt. Not
everything in this world requires "expression" ad-infinitum.

Responses like yours are so wanky Micheal. They are almost a cliche'.
Everyone trots one out on occasion but really is this supposed to
have any effect on me?

*Speaks volumes about my mental state*, *Ability to form a complete
argument and skill at expressing your thoughts?*
Good god man, up our high horse aren't we? The fact that you can deduce so
much from so little would suggest your twice the idiot you seem.

Calling someone names doesn't speak to the issue at hand, or disprove any

points made by anyone else.

Speaking of points? Whats yours? Im sure shes a *big* girl and can handle
it. Its not the end of the world for her.
Shes so unphased by the whole thing shes bearly had a response. What are
you?.. her knight in shining armour?

How gallent of you Micheal.

lol

 

[Richard Myers]

LMAO

Thats right Mikey... just let it a-l-l out.


With respect to name calling clearly your standards are no higher than
mine. And as for juvenile well lets just say "Thanks for spelling lesson."
One thing that does interest me though is this statement:

I don't even care to address your ineptitude with contractions

After such an impressive and sacarcism laden *blasting* about spelling
(clearly your?you're? quite upset at the moment), i can only hope you
didn't mean *contradictions*. If i can have just one more Scooby Snack
please Mike, perhaps you could elaborate?

And i wouldn't get too self congratulatory about your?;you're? contribution
to this thread Mike, seems to me no one has yet to say anything on the
subject that hasn't already been said a 1000 times before in very simliar
entitled threads. Often times by the same contributors making pretty much
the same old tired statements. Not exactly breaking new ground but if you
haven't yet heard it all before then welcome to the club.

Except of course for Stephanie who chose to include everything from the
Dawn of Mankind, to assassinated Presidents and 18th century textilers and
something that could possibly be traced back to Jeremy Bentham.

I dunno or should that be *dont know* what your time zone is but i hope
your?you're not posting too close to you're?your? bedtime.
They say you should never go to sleep on an argument and you're?your
feathers seem very definitely ruffled to me.

Now the question is genius...can you resist a potential troll? Or is it
true that you dont know how to spell *contradictions*?

[F7]???