Using WindowsXP explorer as a database.

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Frank Martin

We are into a project to scan and store innumerable old photos going back to
the beginning of the 20th cent.

If we click "properties" on a scanned photo file there is a field called
"keywords" which appears for Jpeg & jpg picture files.

Can we use this "keyword" field to access parts of our collection. Can we
add several words in the "keyword" field and then select combinations of
these words to select groups of photos?

Why doesn't the "keyword" field appear for *.tiff files?

We want to get this right from the begining.

Please help, Frank
 
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David Candy

There are two types of properties. SummaryInfo (properties in Explorer) and exeif which are properties in the file (set by specific programs and cameras). I'm no expert on exeif but Tiff should have a SummaryInfo.
 
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RobertVA

I've never heard of Windows Explorer having the capability of filtering the
files visible in its window based on properties other than the binary (set /
not set) system and hidden properties. You will probably need some other
program to acomplish that. Note that making your collection dependendent on
a particular application to view it might make your media incompatable with
future operating systems.

You would want to use the TIFF format for conversion to other formats since
repeated load then save cycles with a jpg file WILL gradually blur the
image. Probably best convert to TIFF at the first opportunity, burn the
files to a CD-R or DVD, use a water solluble marker to label the media and
store the media in a dark place which woun't be subject to high tempretures
or humidity. Some tests have shown that CD-Rs may last longer if they are
not inflicted with adhesive labels. If you want to improve the appearance of
your photos through operations including, but not limited to color
correction work with copies of the early generation files and store in TIFF
format until you are ready to convert to the final format required for the
media you want to use for your presentation. Remember: The media,
espeacially CD-Rs, is CHEAP, It doesn't cost much to make one CD with early
versions of the scanned images on one, color corrected cropped versions with
support for computer viewing on anouther, and a VCD (Video CD) or DVD to
play on the DVD player on the family TV (check DVD player package and manual
for VCD compatability - and test the first one). And TEST the media (CD or
DVD) immediately after you produce it to make sure the files are readable.

Some consumer DVD authoring applications allow you to produce a slide show
with menus resembling the scenes menus in commercialy produced motion
picture DVDs. Some of these aplications allow you to group you photos into
"scenes", add background comentary or music and create a DVD that can be
played all the way through or played in sections selected with the DVD
player's remote control menu buttons. Check the programs specifications when
you shop for one.

The system and hidden properties are stored as part of the file system. The
keyword property is probably stored within the file itself and would depend
on support of each individual file format.
 
F

Frank Martin

RobertVA said:
I've never heard of Windows Explorer having the capability of filtering the
files visible in its window based on properties other than the binary (set /
not set) system and hidden properties. You will probably need some other
program to acomplish that. Note that making your collection dependendent on
a particular application to view it might make your media incompatable with
future operating systems.

You would want to use the TIFF format for conversion to other formats since
repeated load then save cycles with a jpg file WILL gradually blur the
image. Probably best convert to TIFF at the first opportunity, burn the
files to a CD-R or DVD, use a water solluble marker to label the media and
store the media in a dark place which woun't be subject to high tempretures
or humidity. Some tests have shown that CD-Rs may last longer if they are
not inflicted with adhesive labels. If you want to improve the appearance of
your photos through operations including, but not limited to color
correction work with copies of the early generation files and store in TIFF
format until you are ready to convert to the final format required for the
media you want to use for your presentation. Remember: The media,
espeacially CD-Rs, is CHEAP, It doesn't cost much to make one CD with early
versions of the scanned images on one, color corrected cropped versions with
support for computer viewing on anouther, and a VCD (Video CD) or DVD to
play on the DVD player on the family TV (check DVD player package and manual
for VCD compatability - and test the first one). And TEST the media (CD or
DVD) immediately after you produce it to make sure the files are readable.

Some consumer DVD authoring applications allow you to produce a slide show
with menus resembling the scenes menus in commercialy produced motion
picture DVDs. Some of these aplications allow you to group you photos into
"scenes", add background comentary or music and create a DVD that can be
played all the way through or played in sections selected with the DVD
player's remote control menu buttons. Check the programs specifications when
you shop for one.

The system and hidden properties are stored as part of the file system. The
keyword property is probably stored within the file itself and would depend
on support of each individual file format.


Many thanks. For now we will use the file name to describe the contents and
use the wildcards "*" and "?" to extract groups.

I have just remembered that the upcomming "Windows longhorn" op system will
have good database facility and I will wait for that (about 2 years away.)

I keep the masters on a streamer tape (Seagate Travan 40gB), so as to copy
sets onto DVDs when I have finished.

Also, in the WindowsXP search, there is a section in the "advanced search"
called "change files & folders search behavior" and this involves "enble
indexing service" which then goes on about "queries"; but I don't understand
it yet.

I am using Photoshop to trim, crop, copy, annotate etc., and I hope this
won't compromize future viewing of these photos.

I have a very good scanner (a Canon 9900F) with is very fast, and which has
plastic inserts for scanning the wierd-shaped negatives. For 35mm work I
have a dedicated Minolta slide/35mmNeg scanner.
 
F

Frank Martin

There are two types of properties. SummaryInfo (properties in Explorer) and
exeif which are properties in the file (set by specific programs and
cameras). I'm no expert on exeif but Tiff should have a SummaryInfo.
 
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David Candy

If you put your search terms in the containing text it searches the properties (and content in files with text in them). Indexing server is used if off or on. If on it makes catalogues that are queried and if off it queries each file.

More advanced queries require IS to be running.
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Frank.
I am using Photoshop to trim, crop, copy, annotate etc., and I hope this
won't compromize future viewing of these photos.

Have you seen Adobe's Photoshop Album program? I think it is intended for
us lightweight users, but I have indexed over 3,000 personal photos with it
(Version 2.0 now) and it might be just what you are trying to recreate.
Multiple "tags" can be attached to each photo, which can be left in its
original folder. Minor editing can be done in Album; use Photoshop or
Elements for heavier jobs.

I'm strictly an amateur at this photo stuff myself, so maybe what you are
discussing is way out of Album's league. But it might be easier than
reinventing the wheel. ;^} Microsoft has similar functions included in
their Digital Image Suite 9.0, but I haven't tried that.

RC
 

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