urgent Help! I have posted some personal information on this newsgroup in the chinese group, How to

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If you are looking to totally delete the information, it is probably
impossible in that tons of other servers and web sites pull posts from these
newsgroups. This means you would have to track down every instance of your
post and then go to the newsgroup/web site it was on and ask that it be
deleted. I did something similar a few years ago and after getting my post
deleted from the MS server and Google archives, I gave up.
 
Hi,
but I just want to have it deleted now from the microsoft server, because it
contains attachment. Attachment would not be shown in thoses servers and
websites, right?

Ron Badour said:
If you are looking to totally delete the information, it is probably
impossible in that tons of other servers and web sites pull posts from
these newsgroups. This means you would have to track down every instance
of your post and then go to the newsgroup/web site it was on and ask that
it be deleted. I did something similar a few years ago and after getting
my post deleted from the MS server and Google archives, I gave up.
 
But how to delete this posting?? How to contact the moderator to delete it??
What are their contact methods? Could you delete it for me??


Ron Badour said:
If you are looking to totally delete the information, it is probably
impossible in that tons of other servers and web sites pull posts from
these newsgroups. This means you would have to track down every instance
of your post and then go to the newsgroup/web site it was on and ask that
it be deleted. I did something similar a few years ago and after getting
my post deleted from the MS server and Google archives, I gave up.
 
I don't recall the exact procedures I used so I recommend you start by
contacting customer service:
https://support.microsoft.com/contactus/emailcontact.aspx?scid=sw;en;1208

I don't know if attachments transfer or not--you could ask customer service
that as well.

By the way, I just found that I posted personal info in this newsgroup just
four days ago but it is going to remain as its not too embarrassing :-)

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008


Î÷½ç said:
Hi,
but I just want to have it deleted now from the microsoft server, because
it contains attachment. Attachment would not be shown in thoses servers
and websites, right?
 
Then How to get it deleted from MS Sever and Google Archives? Please tell me
how to do that!


Ron Badour said:
If you are looking to totally delete the information, it is probably
impossible in that tons of other servers and web sites pull posts from
these newsgroups. This means you would have to track down every instance
of your post and then go to the newsgroup/web site it was on and ask that
it be deleted. I did something similar a few years ago and after getting
my post deleted from the MS server and Google archives, I gave up.
 
There are no moderators per se on these newsgroups. I do not know who is
currently in charge hence my recommendation in my second post for you to
contact customer service. MVPs cannot delete posts from the newsgroups.

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008


Î÷½ç said:
But how to delete this posting?? How to contact the moderator to delete
it??
What are their contact methods? Could you delete it for me??
 
But how could you do that a few years ago?

Ron Badour said:
There are no moderators per se on these newsgroups. I do not know who is
currently in charge hence my recommendation in my second post for you to
contact customer service. MVPs cannot delete posts from the newsgroups.

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008
 
Hey! I missed that senior moment.
(But I have now looked it up)

Take care ..Alan
 
Voyager said:
Then How to get it deleted from MS Sever and Google Archives? Please tell me
how to do that!


Ron Badour said:
If you are looking to totally delete the information, it is probably
impossible in that tons of other servers and web sites pull posts from
these newsgroups. This means you would have to track down every instance
of your post and then go to the newsgroup/web site it was on and ask that
it be deleted. I did something similar a few years ago and after getting
my post deleted from the MS server and Google archives, I gave up.

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008
In thunderbird (my news reader) I can rightclick an article that I wrote
and delete it. It deletes from my side. Not sure if it deletes on the
server, and if so, how far does that delete populate to every other server.
Messages are like a virus and just go everywhere. Granted if you
delete it within seconds, its possible it went nowhere, but........

Only light I can shed.
 
Voyager said:
Please help me!
No matter what you do to delete the message it will always remain of lots of
servers throughout the world for months or years and there's nothing you can
do about it.
I tried to delete a message and found it totally impossible when the message
has been on the Internet for more than a few minutes.
Sorry.
Regards Mike.
 
What if the message contains ATTACHMENT? could ALL servers maintain that
file? Maybe just the MS Server does, I suspect. But I would contact the MS
customer service, would they help me?
 
But it is odd that I could not find that message in the google archives.
Still, it remains on OE for sure, it is said that it would be deleted after
3 months automatically in the users's OE files.

I am really confused about that.
 
If it's password(s) you're worried about, change it (them). Otherwise, keep
your fingers crossed and pray hard that nothing bad will happen to you.
 
What if the message contains ATTACHMENT? could ALL servers maintain that
file? Maybe just the MS Server does, I suspect.



No, your suspicion is wrong. Many, if not most, servers will keep the
attachment. You're out of luck. Your message has been propagated to
hundreds or thousands of news servers all around the world.

But I would contact the MS
customer service, would they help me?


I don't know, but even if they did, it would address only a tiny part
of the problem--less than 1%.

If you tried to contact all the servers, first you'd probably never
find more than a small percentage of them, and second, few, if any,
would be disposed to help you.

Whatever the damage was, it's done, and you can't really do anything
about it now.
 
Still, it remains on OE for sure, it is said that it would be deleted after
3 months automatically in the users's OE files.
 
Still, it remains on OE for sure, it is said that it would be deleted after
3 months automatically in the users's OE files.


What messages are kept within your local newsreader depends on what
newsreader you use, and often on what options you set within it.
That's completely irrelevant to the issue of what's kept on a
particular news server or for how long.

If Î÷½ç is concerned about whether someone can see the personal
information he posted, that has to do with whether the many news
*servers* out there keep the message, not with whether your news
reader or mine keeps it. Either of us could have seen the message when
he first posted it, and whether it was kept longer on out local
machines doesn't matter at all.

I no longer use Outlook Express as my newsreader, but even back when I
did, I never let it keep messages anywhere near 30 days. More
typically I kept (and still keep) already-read messages only for two
or three days).



 
Thanks

Ken Blake said:
Still, it remains on OE for sure, it is said that it would be deleted
after
3 months automatically in the users's OE files.


What messages are kept within your local newsreader depends on what
newsreader you use, and often on what options you set within it.
That's completely irrelevant to the issue of what's kept on a
particular news server or for how long.

If Î÷½ç is concerned about whether someone can see the personal
information he posted, that has to do with whether the many news
*servers* out there keep the message, not with whether your news
reader or mine keeps it. Either of us could have seen the message when
he first posted it, and whether it was kept longer on out local
machines doesn't matter at all.

I no longer use Outlook Express as my newsreader, but even back when I
did, I never let it keep messages anywhere near 30 days. More
typically I kept (and still keep) already-read messages only for two
or three days).
 
Ron Badour said:
If you are looking to totally delete the information, it is probably
impossible in that tons of other servers and web sites pull posts from
these newsgroups. This means you would have to track down every instance
of your post and then go to the newsgroup/web site it was on and ask that
it be deleted. I did something similar a few years ago and after getting
my post deleted from the MS server and Google archives, I gave up.
...

Not to mention that someone, somewhere on the planet,
may have read the personal information and committed it
to memory or made a paper copy or a screen image or
made an archival copy of the message.

Once something is posted and the requisite number of
milliseconds have elapsed for someone else to look at it,
it's irretrievable in principle.
 

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