Upgrading Windows 98 to Windows XP Pro

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Guest

So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade Advisor and
the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98 recovery CD that came
with my desktop PC to get it back to out-of-the-box state since it is
experiencing issues from Adware and some applications I wish I never
installed. I will then proceed with the upgrade. Since I never have done an
upgrade, I just want to verify that the upgrade will allow me to reformat the
partition from FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be allowed?

Thanks
 
R

Robert Moir

cautious said:
So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade
Advisor and the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98
recovery CD that came with my desktop PC to get it back to
out-of-the-box state since it is experiencing issues from Adware and
some applications I wish I never installed. I will then proceed with
the upgrade. Since I never have done an upgrade, I just want to
verify that the upgrade will allow me to reformat the partition from
FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be allowed?

This should work, but if you're going to return the system to "out of the
box" state, e.g. completely clean except for a fresh install of Win 98, you
may as well just do a clean install of Win XP - this will work as a normal
clean install, allowing you to format the disk as you please, and will
require you to feed it your Win 98 disk at some stage in the install to
prove you're eligable for an upgrade. This will work if you have a "normal"
win 98 install disk, but may give you trouble if you have one of those lame
"factory restore" disks, but if it works its easier than doing 2 installs!

--
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

No. The upgrade will not allow you to format the drive to NTFS because you
are upgrading and not doing a clean installation.

You will convert the file system from FAT32 to NTFS after the upgrade is
complete. It is a simple command line entry:
convert C: /fs:ntfs
Notice the space before and after C:.
Because you will be converting the system drive, the system cannot do it
from Windows. The convert tool will inform you that the drive is in use and
ask if you want to dismount it. Say yes. The tool will then say it can't
do that and ask if you want to schedule the conversion at the next start up.
Say yes. After the tool notifies you that conversion is scheduled, restart
your computer. All will be well.
 
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Colin Barnhorst

Robert, he is going to use a restore cd ("I plan to run the Windows 98
recovery CD that came with my desktop PC "). I don't think he has a retail
cd for the Win98, so has to upgrade to XP. Therefore he cannot format NTFS.
He will have to convert afterwards.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

I forgot to mention that the command line is reached in XP the same as in
98; Start>Run.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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Colin Barnhorst said:
No. The upgrade will not allow you to format the drive to NTFS because
you are upgrading and not doing a clean installation.

You will convert the file system from FAT32 to NTFS after the upgrade is
complete. It is a simple command line entry:
convert C: /fs:ntfs
Notice the space before and after C:.
Because you will be converting the system drive, the system cannot do it
from Windows. The convert tool will inform you that the drive is in use
and ask if you want to dismount it. Say yes. The tool will then say it
can't do that and ask if you want to schedule the conversion at the next
start up. Say yes. After the tool notifies you that conversion is
scheduled, restart your computer. All will be well.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
cautious said:
So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade Advisor
and
the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98 recovery CD that
came
with my desktop PC to get it back to out-of-the-box state since it is
experiencing issues from Adware and some applications I wish I never
installed. I will then proceed with the upgrade. Since I never have
done an
upgrade, I just want to verify that the upgrade will allow me to reformat
the
partition from FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be allowed?

Thanks
 
R

Robert Moir

Colin said:
Robert, he is going to use a restore cd ("I plan to run the Windows 98
recovery CD that came with my desktop PC "). I don't think he has a
retail cd for the Win98, so has to upgrade to XP. Therefore he
cannot format NTFS. He will have to convert afterwards.

You're probably right - but I have seen a disk described as a "recovery"
disk that turned out to be a "normal" OEM installer disk on more than one
occasion.
 
G

Guest

Thanks for your quick responses. I just browsed my lame recovery CD and the
folders off the root are Applications, Drivers, PCDR & Recovery. Under
Recovery is 1 dir named US and in it are zip files and others... so I'm
thinking a fresh install with this disk is a nogo. The convert is fine. As
long as the finish product is NTFS.

Thanks again

Colin Barnhorst said:
I forgot to mention that the command line is reached in XP the same as in
98; Start>Run.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Colin Barnhorst said:
No. The upgrade will not allow you to format the drive to NTFS because
you are upgrading and not doing a clean installation.

You will convert the file system from FAT32 to NTFS after the upgrade is
complete. It is a simple command line entry:
convert C: /fs:ntfs
Notice the space before and after C:.
Because you will be converting the system drive, the system cannot do it
from Windows. The convert tool will inform you that the drive is in use
and ask if you want to dismount it. Say yes. The tool will then say it
can't do that and ask if you want to schedule the conversion at the next
start up. Say yes. After the tool notifies you that conversion is
scheduled, restart your computer. All will be well.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
cautious said:
So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade Advisor
and
the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98 recovery CD that
came
with my desktop PC to get it back to out-of-the-box state since it is
experiencing issues from Adware and some applications I wish I never
installed. I will then proceed with the upgrade. Since I never have
done an
upgrade, I just want to verify that the upgrade will allow me to reformat
the
partition from FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be allowed?

Thanks
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

If you have already purchased the WinXP upgrade edition then you are going
to need a Win98, 98SE, or ME retail cd in order to do a fresh installation.
If you have not opened the WinXP upgrade, consider returning it in exchange
for WinXP (full).

The driver cd is a real plus. If you do a clean installation, you may not
be able to get on the web until you install the network card driver from it.
You will want to upgrade the drivers afterwards.

Are you sure that the directory labeled US does not in fact contain the
recovery image? Check documentation (perhaps a readme file on the cd) or on
the web to see how to use this cd. It sounds like that is in fact the
recovery system or the executable for running the recovery (the actual image
may be located in a hidden partition on the hard drive).

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
cautious said:
Thanks for your quick responses. I just browsed my lame recovery CD and
the
folders off the root are Applications, Drivers, PCDR & Recovery. Under
Recovery is 1 dir named US and in it are zip files and others... so I'm
thinking a fresh install with this disk is a nogo. The convert is fine.
As
long as the finish product is NTFS.

Thanks again

Colin Barnhorst said:
I forgot to mention that the command line is reached in XP the same as in
98; Start>Run.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Colin Barnhorst said:
No. The upgrade will not allow you to format the drive to NTFS because
you are upgrading and not doing a clean installation.

You will convert the file system from FAT32 to NTFS after the upgrade
is
complete. It is a simple command line entry:
convert C: /fs:ntfs
Notice the space before and after C:.
Because you will be converting the system drive, the system cannot do
it
from Windows. The convert tool will inform you that the drive is in
use
and ask if you want to dismount it. Say yes. The tool will then say
it
can't do that and ask if you want to schedule the conversion at the
next
start up. Say yes. After the tool notifies you that conversion is
scheduled, restart your computer. All will be well.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade
Advisor
and
the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98 recovery CD that
came
with my desktop PC to get it back to out-of-the-box state since it is
experiencing issues from Adware and some applications I wish I never
installed. I will then proceed with the upgrade. Since I never have
done an
upgrade, I just want to verify that the upgrade will allow me to
reformat
the
partition from FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be
allowed?

Thanks
 
G

Guest

cautious said:
Thanks for your quick responses. I just browsed my lame recovery CD and the
folders off the root are Applications, Drivers, PCDR & Recovery. Under
Recovery is 1 dir named US and in it are zip files and others... so I'm
thinking a fresh install with this disk is a nogo. The convert is fine. As
long as the finish product is NTFS.

Thanks again

Colin Barnhorst said:
I forgot to mention that the command line is reached in XP the same as in
98; Start>Run.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Colin Barnhorst said:
No. The upgrade will not allow you to format the drive to NTFS because
you are upgrading and not doing a clean installation.

You will convert the file system from FAT32 to NTFS after the upgrade is
complete. It is a simple command line entry:
convert C: /fs:ntfs
Notice the space before and after C:.
Because you will be converting the system drive, the system cannot do it
from Windows. The convert tool will inform you that the drive is in use
and ask if you want to dismount it. Say yes. The tool will then say it
can't do that and ask if you want to schedule the conversion at the next
start up. Say yes. After the tool notifies you that conversion is
scheduled, restart your computer. All will be well.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade Advisor
and
the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98 recovery CD that
came
with my desktop PC to get it back to out-of-the-box state since it is
experiencing issues from Adware and some applications I wish I never
installed. I will then proceed with the upgrade. Since I never have
done an
upgrade, I just want to verify that the upgrade will allow me to reformat
the
partition from FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be allowed?

Thanks
 
G

Guest

Colin Barnhorst said:
If you have already purchased the WinXP upgrade edition then you are going
to need a Win98, 98SE, or ME retail cd in order to do a fresh installation.
If you have not opened the WinXP upgrade, consider returning it in exchange
for WinXP (full).

The driver cd is a real plus. If you do a clean installation, you may not
be able to get on the web until you install the network card driver from it.
You will want to upgrade the drivers afterwards.

Are you sure that the directory labeled US does not in fact contain the
recovery image? Check documentation (perhaps a readme file on the cd) or on
the web to see how to use this cd. It sounds like that is in fact the
recovery system or the executable for running the recovery (the actual image
may be located in a hidden partition on the hard drive).

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
cautious said:
Thanks for your quick responses. I just browsed my lame recovery CD and
the
folders off the root are Applications, Drivers, PCDR & Recovery. Under
Recovery is 1 dir named US and in it are zip files and others... so I'm
thinking a fresh install with this disk is a nogo. The convert is fine.
As
long as the finish product is NTFS.

Thanks again

Colin Barnhorst said:
I forgot to mention that the command line is reached in XP the same as in
98; Start>Run.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
No. The upgrade will not allow you to format the drive to NTFS because
you are upgrading and not doing a clean installation.

You will convert the file system from FAT32 to NTFS after the upgrade
is
complete. It is a simple command line entry:
convert C: /fs:ntfs
Notice the space before and after C:.
Because you will be converting the system drive, the system cannot do
it
from Windows. The convert tool will inform you that the drive is in
use
and ask if you want to dismount it. Say yes. The tool will then say
it
can't do that and ask if you want to schedule the conversion at the
next
start up. Say yes. After the tool notifies you that conversion is
scheduled, restart your computer. All will be well.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade
Advisor
and
the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98 recovery CD that
came
with my desktop PC to get it back to out-of-the-box state since it is
experiencing issues from Adware and some applications I wish I never
installed. I will then proceed with the upgrade. Since I never have
done an
upgrade, I just want to verify that the upgrade will allow me to
reformat
the
partition from FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be
allowed?

Thanks
Hey Colin , If you're still there I get a message asking for the volume after I enter in the convert C: /fs:ntfs
 
G

Guest

Colin Barnhorst said:
If you have already purchased the WinXP upgrade edition then you are going
to need a Win98, 98SE, or ME retail cd in order to do a fresh installation.
If you have not opened the WinXP upgrade, consider returning it in exchange
for WinXP (full).

The driver cd is a real plus. If you do a clean installation, you may not
be able to get on the web until you install the network card driver from it.
You will want to upgrade the drivers afterwards.

Are you sure that the directory labeled US does not in fact contain the
recovery image? Check documentation (perhaps a readme file on the cd) or on
the web to see how to use this cd. It sounds like that is in fact the
recovery system or the executable for running the recovery (the actual image
may be located in a hidden partition on the hard drive).

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
cautious said:
Thanks for your quick responses. I just browsed my lame recovery CD and
the
folders off the root are Applications, Drivers, PCDR & Recovery. Under
Recovery is 1 dir named US and in it are zip files and others... so I'm
thinking a fresh install with this disk is a nogo. The convert is fine.
As
long as the finish product is NTFS.

Thanks again

Colin Barnhorst said:
I forgot to mention that the command line is reached in XP the same as in
98; Start>Run.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
No. The upgrade will not allow you to format the drive to NTFS because
you are upgrading and not doing a clean installation.

You will convert the file system from FAT32 to NTFS after the upgrade
is
complete. It is a simple command line entry:
convert C: /fs:ntfs
Notice the space before and after C:.
Because you will be converting the system drive, the system cannot do
it
from Windows. The convert tool will inform you that the drive is in
use
and ask if you want to dismount it. Say yes. The tool will then say
it
can't do that and ask if you want to schedule the conversion at the
next
start up. Say yes. After the tool notifies you that conversion is
scheduled, restart your computer. All will be well.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade
Advisor
and
the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98 recovery CD that
came
with my desktop PC to get it back to out-of-the-box state since it is
experiencing issues from Adware and some applications I wish I never
installed. I will then proceed with the upgrade. Since I never have
done an
upgrade, I just want to verify that the upgrade will allow me to
reformat
the
partition from FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be
allowed?

Thanks


Hey Colin, If you're still there. I got a "Whats the Volume message?" HELP
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

Cindy,

Here are the verbatim instructions from the Help and Support Center (type
"convert to ntfs" in the search box in the upper left):

To convert a volume to NTFS from the command prompt
Open the Command Prompt window.
In the command prompt window, type
convert drive_letter: /fs:ntfs
For example, typing convert D: /fs:ntfs would format drive D: with the ntfs
format.
Notes
To open a command prompt, click Start, point to All Programs, point to
Accessories, and then click Command Prompt.
You can convert FAT or FAT32 volumes to NTFS with this command.

Please post back with the exact message. Is C: your system drive or is
Windows installed on another drive? Is the drive you are trying to convert
already ntfs?

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Cindy said:
cautious said:
Thanks for your quick responses. I just browsed my lame recovery CD and
the
folders off the root are Applications, Drivers, PCDR & Recovery. Under
Recovery is 1 dir named US and in it are zip files and others... so I'm
thinking a fresh install with this disk is a nogo. The convert is fine.
As
long as the finish product is NTFS.

Thanks again

Colin Barnhorst said:
I forgot to mention that the command line is reached in XP the same as
in
98; Start>Run.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
No. The upgrade will not allow you to format the drive to NTFS
because
you are upgrading and not doing a clean installation.

You will convert the file system from FAT32 to NTFS after the upgrade
is
complete. It is a simple command line entry:
convert C: /fs:ntfs
Notice the space before and after C:.
Because you will be converting the system drive, the system cannot do
it
from Windows. The convert tool will inform you that the drive is in
use
and ask if you want to dismount it. Say yes. The tool will then say
it
can't do that and ask if you want to schedule the conversion at the
next
start up. Say yes. After the tool notifies you that conversion is
scheduled, restart your computer. All will be well.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
So I am going to purchase a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I will upgrade
my
Windows 98 desktop PC to Windows XP Pro. I have run the Upgrade
Advisor
and
the Hardware is all OK. I plan to run the Windows 98 recovery CD
that
came
with my desktop PC to get it back to out-of-the-box state since it
is
experiencing issues from Adware and some applications I wish I never
installed. I will then proceed with the upgrade. Since I never
have
done an
upgrade, I just want to verify that the upgrade will allow me to
reformat
the
partition from FAT32 to NTFS. Can someone verify this will be
allowed?

Thanks
 

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