Upgrade to Windows 7

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Tom

Hey All,

Now that Windows 7 is finally upon us, I have a question of upgrading
eligibility. I have PC with XP-pro on it that came with it (OEM). Can that
be used as eligibility for an upgrade?

Thanks.
 
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HeyBub

Tom said:
Hey All,

Now that Windows 7 is finally upon us, I have a question of upgrading
eligibility. I have PC with XP-pro on it that came with it (OEM).
Can that be used as eligibility for an upgrade?

Thanks.

I asked that same question a bit ago and the answer was "YES" but without
attribution.
 
D

Daave

Tom said:
Hey All,

Now that Windows 7 is finally upon us, I have a question of upgrading
eligibility. I have PC with XP-pro on it that came with it (OEM).
Can that be used as eligibility for an upgrade?

Absolutely. (But make sure your hardware can handle it.)

But you will need to perform a clean install (which is what I would
normally recommend, anyway). Currently, the only known method to do this
is to have XP installed on the PC (believe it or not)!

For more information:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:8...upgrade-media-how-does-that-work-exactly.aspx

I'm still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista mentioned
here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

If so, XP won't necessarily need to be installed first. (That is, you
could clean install Window 7, using the Upgrade CD -- even onto a
bare-metal drive.) Stay tuned!
 
T

Tom

Daave said:
Absolutely. (But make sure your hardware can handle it.)

But you will need to perform a clean install (which is what I would
normally recommend, anyway). Currently, the only known method to do this
is to have XP installed on the PC (believe it or not)!

For more information:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:8...upgrade-media-how-does-that-work-exactly.aspx

I'm still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista mentioned
here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

If so, XP won't necessarily need to be installed first. (That is, you
could clean install Window 7, using the Upgrade CD -- even onto a
bare-metal drive.) Stay tuned!

Oh, MY PC can handle it and much more. And yes, I figured as much about
installing 7, just like Vista, you have to have the OS installed beforehand,
which I think is a load of crock. I'd like to be able to transfer my setting
and such, but oh well. I just want to be sure that I can still install it.
I'd hate to buy it and find out that I cannot use my OEM Xp disk/install as
a valid upgrade eligibility.

Thanks for the reply.
 
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Daave

Tom said:
Oh, MY PC can handle it and much more. And yes, I figured as much
about installing 7, just like Vista, you have to have the OS
installed beforehand, which I think is a load of crock. I'd like to
be able to transfer my setting and such, but oh well. I just want to
be sure that I can still install it. I'd hate to buy it and find out
that I cannot use my OEM Xp disk/install as a valid upgrade
eligibility.

What is important is that it is XP (OEM or Retail is irrelevant).
However, per the EULA, you can't use that XP license on any other PC.
 
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Al

Much confusion - Windows XP cannot be upgraded to Windows 7 (Vista can) -
it must be a clean install and XP installation is not required. However
data, files, application settings (not applications themselves) can be
migrated from a XP installation by using the Windows File and Settings
Wizard or the User State Migration Tool (USMT).
 
D

Daave

HeyBub said:
I asked that same question a bit ago and the answer was "YES" but
without attribution.

It's common knowledge, HeyBub, but if you must see something official:

http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-7-Home-Premium-Upgrade/product/B0F9E641

Expland "Before you buy" and you will see:

<quote>

Decide to buy an Upgrade or Full product

All editions of Windows XP and Windows Vista qualify you to upgrade. So,
if you're running either on your PC today, buy a package labeled
"Upgrade".

</quote>
 
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Ian D

Daave said:
Absolutely. (But make sure your hardware can handle it.)

But you will need to perform a clean install (which is what I would
normally recommend, anyway). Currently, the only known method to do this
is to have XP installed on the PC (believe it or not)!

For more information:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:8...upgrade-media-how-does-that-work-exactly.aspx

I'm still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista mentioned
here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

If so, XP won't necessarily need to be installed first. (That is, you
could clean install Window 7, using the Upgrade CD -- even onto a
bare-metal drive.) Stay tuned!
If you're talking about using a Win 7 upgrade as a qualifying OS
for installing itself, I'm sure the answer will be known soon. I
did that for a clean install of Vista Ultimate, but I was legal, as I
had an unused Win2K licence, although it may have been quicker
to install Win2K then Vista, rather than a double install of Vista.
 
I

Ian D

Daave said:
Absolutely. (But make sure your hardware can handle it.)

But you will need to perform a clean install (which is what I would
normally recommend, anyway). Currently, the only known method to do this
is to have XP installed on the PC (believe it or not)!

For more information:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:8...upgrade-media-how-does-that-work-exactly.aspx

I'm still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista mentioned
here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

If so, XP won't necessarily need to be installed first. (That is, you
could clean install Window 7, using the Upgrade CD -- even onto a
bare-metal drive.) Stay tuned!

According to this site. You can do a clean install of Win 7 upgrade
version on a system with no OS installed:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html

I suppose, that to satisfy the EULA, you should be in possession
of a licence for an uninstalled version of XP or Vista.
 
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Twayne

Daave said:
What is important is that it is XP (OEM or Retail is irrelevant).
However, per the EULA, you can't use that XP license on any other PC.
Well, you could use it on any other PC if it's the retail version. It's
OEMs you can't use on any PC other than the one it was first installed
on.

Regards,

Twayne`
 
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Daave

Twayne said:
Well, you could use it on any other PC if it's the retail version.
It's OEMs you can't use on any PC other than the one it was first
installed on.

Yes, Twayne, you are correct.

That is specifically what Tom asked about -- the OEM version. He said,
"I'd hate to buy it and find out that I cannot use my OEM Xp
disk/install as a valid upgrade eligibility." I explained that he has
nothing to worry about; it doesn't matter if his XP is OEM or Retail --
either way, it is considered a qualifying operating system for an
upgrade (upgrade in the sense of being able to install Windows 7 via an
Upgrade CD). I then pointed out that per the XP OEM EULA, he just can't
use that XP license on any other PC. That is the only limitation. It
seems that he and others are afraid that an OEM edition of Windows XP
doesn't qualify. Just wanted to reassure them. :)
 
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JS

You don't need to do a clean install to upgrade XP to Windows 7.

Microsoft supports an "In Place" upgrade from XP to Vista.
Microsoft also supports an "In Place" upgrade from Vista to Windows 7.

XP ---> Vista ---> Windows 7.

I've done it and it works!
Just be aware that XP applications not supported by Vista will most
certainly not be supported in Windows 7.

Also per Microsoft Marketing, your XP key code will be retired and
can not be activated via the Internet or Phone. This I have not confirmed.
 
B

Bill Cunningham

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Whaddya think, we've got CrystalBalls? If you read the references I cited
carefully, you'd know that you're really doing a clean install (with your XP
data archived but without formatting the HDD) when "upgrading" (using a Win7
Upgrade disk) from WinXP to Win7. Given suitable hardware, etc., you could
do a clean install of Win7 on a computer currently running Win98...but you'd
have to format the HDD first and use a Win7 Retail disk. Assuming suitable
hardware, you should be able to format & do a clean install of "Win8" when
it's released, too.
 
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JS

Mr doe said:
And if I do not like Win7, You are saying Microsoft will stop me from
going Back to XP ? I Do not think this is True. If it is The LAWYERS will
be Standing in line !

I am posting what a Microsoft marketing person told me.
Is it the truth, I can't say that it is or is not.

I will know more when I find the time to sacrifice one my XP
product keys. Is the key invalid the second you upgrade or do
they give a day or to or multiple tries if an upgrade fails is also
a big question.
 
J

JS

Bill Cunningham said:
Now does anyone know if the windows coming out after windows 7 will be
upgradable from XP? Or will upgrade version be available.

Bill

I think and hope Microsoft takes the time necessary
to digest and chew the fat before they start on Windows 8.

If Windows 7 is widely accepted as opposed to Vista's flop
then we have a long wait to find out what next.

In-Place Upgrade Windows XP to Windows 7
http://www.pagestart.com/upgradexptowindows7.html
 
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Anthony Buckland

I downloaded the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor today, and
ZoneAlarm Extreme Security promptly labelled it as
malicious. Naturally, I won't be running it any time soon.
I've messaged Microsoft about this, but so far (about 12
hours later) have had no response other than an automated
receipt.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Anthony said:
I downloaded the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor today, and
ZoneAlarm Extreme Security promptly labelled it as
malicious. Naturally, I won't be running it any time soon...

The Win7 Upgrade Advisor or the ZA suite?

Tip: The correct answer does not include the words Win7, Upgrade, or Advisor
 

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