Upgrade from xp home to xp profesional

[Steve C. Ray]

May I ask why you want to change back to Home? Pro and Home are operational
identical, with Pro having added security and networking capabilities. What
problems are you having?
If you must go back to Home you will have to format the drive and reinstall
Home.

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Steve C. Ray
(Replace "mail" with "36db"

I had xp home and changed to xp professional, we are would rather have the

hom edition back, does anyone have any suggestions for us.

 

[Tim Slattery]

I had xp home and changed to xp professional, we are would rather have the hom edition back, does anyone have any suggestions for us.

Sorry, you're stuck. There's no easy way to convert from Pro to Home.
On the other hand, there's no reason to do that. Pro can do everything
that Home can do, and a few more things beside.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

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I had xp home and changed to xp professional, we are would rather
have the hom edition back,

Why? Home is a subset of Professional. There's nothing in Home
that you don't have in Professional. Even if you don't need the
extra features of Professional, there's no reason to prefer Home.

does anyone have any suggestions for us.

No downgrade is possible. There's only one way to do this: clean
install XP Home.

 

[Spinner]

Since you chose not to include ANY of the post your replying to,
I have no idea if your replying to me , Ken, or one of the other posters.
But here it goes, I never saw your first post. Up until VERY recently I
blocked all
messages from "(e-mail address removed)".
From the little I have heard of your problem, it sounds like a hardware
problem,
most likely failing or defective RAM. I've seen plenty of installs and
upgrades fail due to hardware problems, which had nothing to do with the OS.
I have seen machines run 98 without a problem for several years, yet refuse
to install XP due to sub standard memory. I have seen XP refuse to install
correctly on a machine with an old ISA sound card, and another with an
antiquated video card. Since you said you reinstalled XP Home and are having
the same issues, I could almost guarantee it's a failing hardware component.
And before you start complaining about XP not likely hardware that is "less
then perfect", try UNIX or Linux to REALLY see hardware requirements.
As to your backup problem, never saw the post, so I have no idea what your
problem is. I will do a google search on your sig and see what I find.
As to your floppy issue, did you verify the files could open on the XP
machine after copying them to the floppy? There are many things that can
cause that a bad /defective floppy, corrupted files, corrupted word (did you
try to open any other files with Word on the 2k machine) a misaligned floppy
drive on either machine, and yes, even a problem with XP as some people are
reporting issues with floppy drives and XP that do not seem to have an
answer. No one said it could not be a software problem, but you assumed it
could be nothing else, which was your only real mistake.

 

[Spinner]

Rice71, I found your original post on google, which i have pasted below.

"Rice71" <[email protected]>

"I attempted to upgrade from Win XP home to Win XP
Professional and the upgrade failed, corrupting my system
completely. I am attempting to get back to where I
started by performing a re-install of Win XP Home,
including reformatting the C: drive, and then doing a
restore from the backup I performed before I tried the
upgrade, including a backup of the System State. The
restore completes normally, but when I try to reboot to
load the new system settings the system goes into a loop
spontaneously rebooting after displaying the Windows XP
logo. I've run a check of the boot record from the Repair
Consol and the boot record checks out. Is there anything
I need to know about restoring the System State that might
be causing the problem?"

What exectly did you backup and restore besides the system state?
To do a system state restore from a clean install, you really need to
backup most of your applications and restore them also.
Another thing to consider, is when doing any restore on a "clean" install,
you need to make sure the computer settings on the new install are as close
to the original as
possible. This includes the computer name, administrators password, hardware
installed, etc.
Anything that is changed during the re-install can cause a failure.

 

[Rice71]

Thanks for responding. Sorry taking so long to get back
to you, but I finally gave up and did a clean install from
the Win XP Pro CD, restored all my files, and have been in
the process of reapplying all the Win XP and IE patches
and updates and reinstalling all my programs.

As an explanation of my frustration with the "you must
have done something wrong" responses from the Microsoft
toadies, I've been program mining on various computers and
in various languages for more than 30 years, including
more than 8 years supervising a database application
development and support group. So I know what goes into
making an installation script robust and I can tell that
the installation/upgrade scripts for Win XP are pitiful.

What exactly did you backup and restore besides the
system state? To do a system state restore from a clean
install, you really need to backup most of your
applications and restore them also.

I backed up everything, including the System State. I
tried running the Automated System Recovery Wizard, but it
kept failing, so I wasn't able to create an ASR floppy.

Another thing to consider, is when doing any restore on
a "clean" install, you need to make sure the computer
settings on the new install are as close to the original
as possible. This includes the computer name,
administrator's password, and hardware installed, etc.
Anything that is changed during the re-install can cause
a failure.

I know I didn't change any of the hardware and I think I
named the computer the same, but I didn't recreate all the
accounts since the Recovery process asked if I wanted to
restore the Security Settings, and I said that I did.
BTW, the last panel before the restore begins asks some
pretty cryptic questions and there is no help to tell you
what the implications are of the different choices.

So, is it at least theoretically possible to use ntbackup
to backup a system, reinstall Win XP, and then use the
backup to restore the system to the state it was when the
backup was run, or do I need to go out and buy a third-
party program, like Norton Ghost?

 

[Spinner]

Thanks for responding. Sorry taking so long to get back
to you, but I finally gave up and did a clean install from
the Win XP Pro CD, restored all my files, and have been in
the process of reapplying all the Win XP and IE patches
and updates and reinstalling all my programs.

As an explanation of my frustration with the "you must
have done something wrong" responses from the Microsoft
toadies, I've been program mining on various computers and
in various languages for more than 30 years, including
more than 8 years supervising a database application
development and support group. So I know what goes into
making an installation script robust and I can tell that
the installation/upgrade scripts for Win XP are pitiful.


I backed up everything, including the System State. I
tried running the Automated System Recovery Wizard, but it
kept failing, so I wasn't able to create an ASR floppy.


I know I didn't change any of the hardware and I think I
named the computer the same, but I didn't recreate all the
accounts since the Recovery process asked if I wanted to
restore the Security Settings, and I said that I did.
BTW, the last panel before the restore begins asks some
pretty cryptic questions and there is no help to tell you
what the implications are of the different choices.

So, is it at least theoretically possible to use ntbackup
to backup a system, reinstall Win XP, and then use the
backup to restore the system to the state it was when the
backup was run, or do I need to go out and buy a third-
party program, like Norton Ghost?

Yes, ntbackup can do this. I have done it many times, but for a complete
system restore
a drive image program like ghost is great.
With ntbackup if you lost the whole system, you would have to re-install XP
from scratch before you could start the restore.
With a program like ghost, you would simply restore the image which would
take less time then installing XP, with the added
benefit of having all service packs, patches and apps restored at the same
time.

 

[Guest]

Thanks to all of you, it's the same question I was about to ask. I take this opportunity to thank Ken Blake for his help on my other issues (Hope Lynnie will excuse me for this). In a reference book on XP that I have it mentioned that "Backup is a feature of Windows XP Professional only" will this feature not add to our benefit also, or should we be satisfied without this feature, if I may ask.

 

[Phil \(purplehaz\)]

Backup is in XP Home and XP Pro. It is just not installed in XP Home by
default. Can be added easily from a real xp cd.

 

[Guest]

Thank you Phil (purplehaz) and to the MSN platform from where I could gather a lot of information that I never dreamed of before
----- Phil (purplehaz) wrote: ----

Backup is in XP Home and XP Pro. It is just not installed in XP Home b
default. Can be added easily from a real xp cd

xpuser1 wrote

 

[Phil \(purplehaz\)]

You're welcome.

Thank you Phil (purplehaz) and to the MSN platform from where I could
gather a lot of information that I never dreamed of before -----
Phil (purplehaz) wrote: -----

Backup is in XP Home and XP Pro. It is just not installed in XP
Home by default. Can be added easily from a real xp cd.

ask. I > take this opportunity to thank Ken Blake for his help
on my other > issues (Hope Lynnie will excuse me for this). In a
reference book on > XP that I have it mentioned that "Backup is
a feature of Windows XP > Professional only" will this feature
not add to our benefit also, or > should we be satisfied without
this feature, if I may ask.

 

[Alex Nichol]

Thanks to all of you, it's the same question I was about to ask. I take this opportunity to thank Ken Blake for his help on my other issues (Hope Lynnie will excuse me for this). In a reference book on XP that I have it mentioned that "Backup is a feature of Windows XP Professional only" will this feature not add to our benefit also, or should we be satisfied without this feature, if I may ask.

That is not quite accurate. It gets installed only on Pro, but is on a
regular retail (or quasi retail OEM) CD for Home too, in a
Valueadd\MSFT\Backup folder. Right click the .msi file there and take
Backup. But the big OEM makers usually leave it off any CD they provide

But I is I think really intended for those bringing existing backups
forward from NT - and hence using Pro - and is not IMO a good program to
use otherwise. If only because it is strictly tape-oriented and will
not do backup to a CD or other removable device. I *have* succeeded in
backing up as much as will fit to a DVD using Sonic DLA to provide
'packet writig' access to the disk, but it is *not* an approach I would
recommend